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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 5/146) |
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maryjane
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JAN 29, 08:27 PM
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Well, all of that sounds pretty bad Hudini. I'll keep you in my prayers. and hope you get home soon and stay here awhile nice and healthy while this thing runs it's course...
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MadMark
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JAN 29, 09:50 PM
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I am not ready to run screaming in the streets in despair, but there are some significant things reported today. 50 million people in quarenteen. 50 more deaths reported today. More cases of Corona than all cases of SARS. It certainly bears watching closely.
Can any of you imagine the US quarenteeing 50 million people? Just think about that. We are no where near as compliant, scared of the government or willing to trust the bureaucrats in government. How many would find a way to get out?
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maryjane
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JAN 29, 10:44 PM
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Not a good time to be stuck in some crowded city I suppose.
Maybe I'll just move off out to the middle of nowhere...
oh wait.
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MadMark
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JAN 29, 11:26 PM
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maryjane, I have to admit you are pretty isolated and I believe that maybe you among most of the rest of us might be able to weather this storm. You have cattle and I assume you have stocked up on stuff already and you have land with probably a garden or two.
Here is an article that gives some statistics that are fairly well up to date as of tonight, January 29th. But, the virus seems to be accelerating in its contagion. So at least for right now we are getting larger and larger numbers of patients and deaths. The CDC is having a special meeting tomorrow to decide whether to call this a world crisis or not.
The only good thing is that outside of China it doesn't seem to be taking hold. If that starts to happen hang on.
https://www.foxnews.com/hea...-sars-mers-outbreaks
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randye
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JAN 30, 12:16 AM
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The Chinese coronavirus epidemic appears to be severe, but let's put this into some rational perspective:
The United States Center for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through January 18, 2020, there have been:
15,000,000 – 21,000,000 flu illnesses
7,000,000 – 10,000,000 flu medical visits
140,000 – 250,000 flu hospitalizations
8,200 – 20,000 flu deaths
That's just here in the U.S. in THREE AND A HALF MONTHS
Notably, both the common influenza Type A and Type B are caused by various strains of the coronavirus.
The SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) epidemic almost 20 years ago was also caused by a strain of the coronavirus
The 1996 "bird flu" , Asian avian influenza, H5N1 virus was / is also a strain of the coronavirus.
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The world didn't end. There were not millions of deaths and it wasn't a real life version of any "Andromeda Strain" like FICTION[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-30-2020).]
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randye
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JAN 30, 03:57 AM
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I just read that its now being called the WU FLU
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LitebulbwithaFiero
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JAN 30, 04:54 AM
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From what I read, it has been 9 days that we have known about it. It can take up to 14 days to show symptoms and it is possible to spread it before symptoms show.
If all that is true, expect the numbers to really jump over the next couple weeks.
I believe that is why they are treating it like more of a crisis then the numbers so far seem to justify.
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MadMark
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JAN 30, 08:07 PM
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According to one report on Drudge, almost another 2000 cases in China today and almost 50 more deaths in China too. And a man in Chicago has gotten this flue from his wife in a person to person manner. Still spiraling out of control in China. Most other countries are having no problems keeping the cases down. At least for now.
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MadMark
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JAN 31, 06:47 AM
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The early morning report is saying that already today there are another 2000 or so cases in China. And 43 new deaths, bringing the total deaths to 213.
https://www.foxnews.com/hea...arrive-london-friday
It is hard to try to track numbers coming out of China, since as the day goes on there are more and more cases and more deaths too. So if you look at the figures from last night at 10:00 pm (which my last post did) and compare them to what is reported at 6:00 am it can be significantly different than later on in the day. Another thing to think about is that it takes around 5 to 10 days from infection to noticing the symptoms, which puts a lag in data flow. And the deaths do not come right away as soon as the patient shows signs of the disease. So it is very hard to get an idea of what the percentage of deaths will end up becoming. It could be that it would be less than a typical flue season or the death rate could be masked by the lag in time from infection to a resulting death. One thing I did see reported last night, is that in the last 9 days the number of cases had gone up by a factor of 10. That is one order of magnitude. So if that continues in less than 10 days China will be looking at 100,000 infections. And that is all dependent on how well the quarantine in China works to combat this flue.
I surely do hope that they can stop this exponential increase in cases with their unprecedented restrictions.
The one thing hopeful is that the extent of the spread of this virus is pretty much limited to China. At least for now.
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E.Furgal
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JAN 31, 07:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MadMark:
The early morning report is saying that already today there are another 2000 or so cases in China. And 43 new deaths, bringing the total deaths to 213.
https://www.foxnews.com/hea...arrive-london-friday
It is hard to try to track numbers coming out of China, since as the day goes on there are more and more cases and more deaths too. So if you look at the figures from last night at 10:00 pm (which my last post did) and compare them to what is reported at 6:00 am it can be significantly different than later on in the day. Another thing to think about is that it takes around 5 to 10 days from infection to noticing the symptoms, which puts a lag in data flow. And the deaths do not come right away as soon as the patient shows signs of the disease. So it is very hard to get an idea of what the percentage of deaths will end up becoming. It could be that it would be less than a typical flue season or the death rate could be masked by the lag in time from infection to a resulting death. One thing I did see reported last night, is that in the last 9 days the number of cases had gone up by a factor of 10. That is one order of magnitude. So if that continues in less than 10 days China will be looking at 100,000 infections. And that is all dependent on how well the quarantine in China works to combat this flue.
I surely do hope that they can stop this exponential increase in cases with their unprecedented restrictions.
The one thing hopeful is that the extent of the spread of this virus is pretty much limited to China. At least for now. |
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I don't think it was wise to fly Americans back, to a mil base in cali. and then only hold them for 3 days.
I think this is going to be a big mistake.
Not saying it is true or not.
But just throwing it out there,
What if the Elite That see man made climate change as (in their mind) the biggest threat. And because they have failed at forcing everyone back to the stone age, they chose to cull the herd?
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