Should a parent be forced to get a child immunized? (Page 5/7)
2.5 JUL 01, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by spark1:
The law just changed here.
The law now requires parents claiming a "non-medical exemption" to either talk to a health care provider or view a pro-vaccine video on the internet.
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I'm all for that.
I'd be fine with a similar thing for people considering abortions and viewing a pro life video.

I really dont see it so much as government forcing some arbitrary thing, as the people around you that you are in the society with wanting it this way. I guess I dont hol dit against them for not wanting a disease outbreak. I suppose we'd need info from polls or votes to show that.
2.5 JUL 01, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

No, They should not.. but having said that, They should be on the hook for any medical bills of any one that gets sick because of their choice..
and before anyone starts "well, Obama care everyone has insurance,,"" yes they do, but the out of pocket deductible has gone through the roof, since the passing of the affordable healthcare act
If you choose to not have your child immunized, and it causes others to get sick, then you foot the co-pay and out of pocket bills of those affected..

The other question I'd like addressed is, if you choose to not have your child immunized, then the insurance company doesn't have to cover the care if they should come down with it.. seems fair..

If I don't get my pet it's shots/ect and it happens to bite someone, and they get rabies, I'm on the hook for that persons care and cost.. why should it be any different with a child..




Another correlation with legalizing recreational drug use.
TheDigitalAlchemist JUN 09, 02:14 AM
Just gonna *bump* this because its 2021, and #Covid


Would you guys trust a vaccine (for ANY disease) manufactured in China?

I don't think 'Autism" is caused by Chinese vaccines. but look at their track record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...Chinese_milk_scandal

54,000 babies hospitalized.

I started looking more, and was so flooded by instances of this I don't want to even post them here...
Seriously, we need to wake the hell up.
maryjane JUN 09, 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

Just gonna *bump* this because its 2021, and #Covid


Would you guys trust a vaccine (for ANY disease) manufactured in China?

I don't think 'Autism" is caused by Chinese vaccines. but look at their track record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...Chinese_milk_scandal

54,000 babies hospitalized.

I started looking more, and was so flooded by instances of this I don't want to even post them here...
Seriously, we need to wake the hell up.


Would you trust one made in Berkeley California USA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_Laboratories

In what became known as the Cutter incident, some lots of the Cutter vaccine—despite passing required safety tests—contained live polio virus in what was supposed to be an inactivated-virus vaccine. Cutter withdrew its vaccine from the market on April 27 after vaccine-associated cases were reported.

The mistake produced 120,000 doses of polio vaccine that contained live polio virus. Of children who received the vaccine, 40,000 developed abortive poliomyelitis (a form of the disease that does not involve the central nervous system), 56 developed paralytic poliomyelitis—and of these, five children died from polio.[2] The exposures led to an epidemic of polio in the families and communities of the affected children, resulting in a further 113 people paralyzed and 5 deaths

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blackrams JUN 09, 08:22 AM
Whoa, kind of cool seeing something brought back like this. I re-read the entire thread and what I said way back then. Still feel the same way.


Rams
sourmash JUN 09, 09:49 AM
Do Amish get vaccinated?

A majority of American citizens don't resist vaccines because they're selfish. They resist them because they distrust the for-profit medical establishment and government, for good reason. The chit being put in the vaccines is highly suspect.

The Corona-hoax just turned more people against vaccines.
blackrams JUN 09, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Do Amish get vaccinated?

A majority of American citizens don't resist vaccines because they're selfish. They resist them because they distrust the for-profit medical establishment and government, for good reason. The chit being put in the vaccines is highly suspect.

The Corona-hoax just turned more people against vaccines.



I have no idea about what the Amish do concerning vaccines.

Reference the reasons American do or don't get vaccinated, There are probably some that do or don't based on your theory but, I have my doubts they all fall into the reasons you indicated. Doesn't matter to me. Everyone has a right to make their own decision. My decision comes into play when those who refuse vaccinations think they can come over and visit.

Rams

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rinselberg JUN 09, 09:34 PM
TV and social media "Get Vaccinated" campaign with a new animated cartoon character "Sandy COVAX"

Well . . . maybe if this were still 1966 or some proximate year.
Hudini JUN 10, 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

Just gonna *bump* this because its 2021, and #Covid


Would you guys trust a vaccine (for ANY disease) manufactured in China?

I don't think 'Autism" is caused by Chinese vaccines. but look at their track record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...Chinese_milk_scandal

54,000 babies hospitalized.

I started looking more, and was so flooded by instances of this I don't want to even post them here...
Seriously, we need to wake the hell up.



I have already had two shots of the Sinovac version here in China. Since I haven’t died yet I can assume it’s not immediately deadly.

Don’t confuse the for-profit businesses with the government run entities. The Chinese (like most Asians) highly value their reputation. To lose face with a vaccine that hurts people would be a major embarrassment. If anything their vaccine is too weak.
sourmash JUN 10, 06:04 AM
The Chinese value the Chinese people. American government is hostile to Americans, especially White Americans. Especially right wing ones who believe in rule of law.