Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 45/146)
MadMark FEB 27, 04:11 PM
Interesting statistics about South Korea.

"505 new cases (of which 422, or 84%, in Daegu) and 1 death in South Korea. The number of new cases in South Korea has topped China for the first time (China has reported 433 new cases for Feb. 26 [source]). This number is expected to further increase in the coming days as health authorities have started testing more than 210,000 members of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in Daegu, attended by the 31st case (a possible "super spreader") and which accounts for more than half of the country's 1,766 total cases to date"
Raydar FEB 27, 05:09 PM
Although a bit late, and not really pertinent to the current discussion, this may answer some questions..

Aircraft precautions.
blackrams FEB 27, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Eh, this is Mother Nature's way of counteracting man-made climate change.

"It's not nice to fool (with) Mother Nature!"



Maybe Zanos got hold of those Infinity Stones and snapped his fingers...……..

Rams
randye FEB 27, 11:04 PM
https://hotair.com/archives...esident-coronavirus/





https://www.youtube.com/wat...tbI&feature=emb_logo

"This isn’t the vice president, it’s Iran’s health minister at a briefing a few days ago at which he reassured the public that they have the coronavirus outbreak under control. Shortly afterward he was diagnosed with coronavirus. You’re watching him here in the early throes of the disease, right in front of the media."


Iranian President Rouhani has also been exposed to the virus via the VP (left) as well as a host of top level members of the government

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maryjane FEB 28, 02:27 AM
Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) study says the Case Fatality Rate for Coronavirus in the 72,000 cases studied in China was 2.3% overall.


Researchers from China's Center for Disease Control and Prevention today describe the clinical findings on more than 72,000 COVID-19 cases reported in mainland China, which reveal a case-fatality rate (CFR) of 2.3% and suggest most cases are mild, but the disease hits the elderly the hardest.

The study, published in JAMA, is the largest patient-based study on the novel coronavirus, which was first connected to seafood market in Wuhan, China, in December, and has since traversed the globe.

Death rate in critically ill: 49% or higher
A total of 72,314 COVID-19 cases, diagnosed through Feb 11 were used for the study. Of the 72,314 cases, 44,672 were classified as confirmed cases of COVID-19 (62%; diagnosis based on positive throat swab samples), 16,186 as suspected cases (diagnosis based on symptoms and exposures only), 10,567 as clinically diagnosed cases (from Hubei province only, diagnoses based on symptoms, including lung x-ray), and 889 as asymptomatic cases (diagnosis by positive test result but lacking typical symptoms).

"Most cases were diagnosed in Hubei Province (75%) and most reported Wuhan-related exposures (86%; ie, Wuhan resident or visitor or close contact with Wuhan resident or visitor," the authors said.

Eighty-seven percent of patients were aged 30 to 79 years (38,680 cases). This age-group was the most affected by a wide margin, followed by ages 20 to 29 (3,619 cases, or 8%), those 80 and older (1,408 cases, or 3%), and 1% each in ages less than 10 and 10 to 19 years.

Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR of 2.3%. The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79. Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%.

A smaller study today based on 52 critically ill patients at a Wuhan hospital confirms this finding. Thirty-two of the 52 critically ill patients (61.5%) died, and older age and acute respiratory distress syndrome were correlated with mortality.

The authors of the smaller study also found that 30 (81%) of 37 patients requiring mechanical ventilation had died by 28 days.

Less deadly but more transmissible than SARS, MERS
A total of 81% of cases in the JAMA study were classified as mild, meaning they did not result in pneumonia or resulted in only mild pneumonia. Fourteen percent of cases were severe (marked by difficulty breathing), and 5% were critical (respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction or failure).

In comparison to SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) coronaviruses, which were both identified in the past 20 years, COVID-19 is likely more highly transmissible but not as deadly, the researchers noted. (SARS had a CFR of 9.6%; MERS has a CFR of 34.4%.) And unlike SARS and MERS, hospital-based outbreaks do not seem to be hallmark of COVID-19 at this time.

"Most secondary transmission of SARS and MERS occurred in the hospital setting," the authors wrote. "Transmission of COVID-19 is occurring in this context as well—3019 cases have been observed among health workers as of February 11, 2020 (of whom there have been 1716 confirmed cases and 5 deaths). However, this is not a major means of COVID-19 spread. Rather, it appears that considerable transmission is occurring among close contacts."

Cruise ship study suggests R0 of 2.28
In other research news, a study in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases uses data from the Diamond Princess cruise ship to calculate COVID-19's reproductive number (R0, or R-naught), or the number of people a single infected person is likely to infect.

Among the 355 passengers who contracted the virus, the researchers calculated an R0 of 2.28, similar to other R0 modeling published in the past several weeks.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/n...-finds-23-death-rate
Hudini FEB 28, 04:35 AM
"Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR of 2.3%. The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79. Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%."


I read this as people who were already in critical condition. As in they had something else wrong and the virus pushed them over the top.
Anyone have a different take on that sentence?
MadMark FEB 28, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

"Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR of 2.3%. The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79. Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%."


I read this as people who were already in critical condition. As in they had something else wrong and the virus pushed them over the top.
Anyone have a different take on that sentence?



I believe that in your second paragraph, it is referring to all who are in critical condition and it doesn't matter how they got there. It would most certainly include those in the higher age bracket and with previous problems that put them at higher risk of getting a more severe form of the virus. You don't have to be critical before the virus hits you, it is just how bad you get the virus.
MidEngineManiac FEB 28, 04:16 PM
I'm guessing this is the same 40% that think tide pods are a tastey snack.

https://www.wfla.com/news/b...navirus-study-shows/
randye FEB 28, 06:21 PM

quote
Originally posted by Hudini:

"Of the confirmed cases, 1,023 patients—all in critical condition—died from the virus, which results in a CFR of 2.3%. The CFR jumped considerably among older patients, to 14.8% in patients 80 and older, and 8.0% in patients ages 70 to 79. Among the critically ill, the CFR was 49.0%."


I read this as people who were already in critical condition. As in they had something else wrong and the virus pushed them over the top.
Anyone have a different take on that sentence?



Not necessarily just "critical" condition, but comorbidity is almost always a factor.

Comorbidity includes conditions such as people with compromised immune systems, people with COPD, asthma or other chronic respiratory illnesses, people recovering from surgery, people with other heart, lung or kidney problems, etc.

The statistics look like the common type A and B influenza for older patients.
2.5 FEB 28, 10:38 PM
Article says COVID 19 is here to stay.

https://www.google.com/amp/.../amp/article/607000/