Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 42/146)
maryjane FEB 26, 12:44 PM
Italy's confirmed cases tripled in the last 2 days and S. America has confirmed it's 1st case..in Brazil.
The Brazilian patient had come from Italy. Austria now has t least one case and Frawnce has multiple confirmed cases.


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The Brazilian government confirmed the first case of a fast-spreading new coronavirus in Latin America, officials from the Brazil Health Ministry said, after a Sao Paulo hospital flagged the possible infection of a 61-year-old who had visited Italy. The diagnosis comes during Brazil’s carnival holiday, a peak time for domestic travel when millions of revelers throng to major cities for raucous street celebrations. Brazil is tracking 20 suspected cases of the virus in the country, health officials told reporters at a news briefing. —Reuters



It's Carnival in Brazil...what could possibly go wrong?
maryjane FEB 26, 03:39 PM



https://www.newsweek.com/co...rope-america-1489170

And........

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Hudini FEB 26, 06:49 PM
"CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years

By Associated Press

September 26, 2018 "

That would be winter of 2017 then. 80,000 people died in a year and it's yawns. 2700 die from this new disease and the stock market drops 1900 points.
Patrick FEB 26, 07:52 PM

With the huge population of Chinese in this city and surrounding areas, it's a little surprising to me that there have been but a handful of coronavirus cases reported here.

COVID-19: Here are all the B.C. cases of the novel coronavirus
maryjane FEB 26, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

"CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years

By Associated Press

September 26, 2018 "

That would be winter of 2017 then. 80,000 people died in a year and it's yawns. 2700 die from this new disease and the stock market drops 1900 points.



I would have thought that would be obvious but perhaps not. It's in the definition of the word "news". New(s) is 'something new or unexpected'. The severity of seasonal flu might be somewhat newsworthy in a particularly bad year, and for a short period of time, the particular strain of seasonal flu might be, but flu is expected each year, just as it has been for decades now. It's nothing particularly new, therefore is not "news".
We EXPECT the flu each year (and have for decades now) and we expect people to die from it, just as we expect many thousands each year to die from auto accidents, heart disease, cancer, and dementia.

Unexpected events ARE news. This particular zoonotic coronavirus has never been seen before, there is little known about it, either in severity, morbidity, mortality or anything else, therefore, it is "news".

A meteor shower doesn't make the headlines, is usually relegated to the back pages with just a casual mention of what time, what day the peak is, but an asteroid strike or an impending strike would be "news".

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maryjane FEB 26, 08:42 PM

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With the huge population of Chinese in this city and surrounding areas, it's a little surprising to me that there have been but a handful of coronavirus cases reported here.

COVID-19: Here are all the B.C. cases of the novel coronavirus



How many of them have traveled to the Wuhan region of China in the last few months?
Just because they are Chinese it doesn't mean they've been anywhere to get exposed to Covid-19.
(There's a horde of Mexicans living near me..most are legal & haven't crossed back across the Rio Grande in many years)
MadMark FEB 26, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


With the huge population of Chinese in this city and surrounding areas, it's a little surprising to me that there have been but a handful of coronavirus cases reported here.

COVID-19: Here are all the B.C. cases of the novel coronavirus



I believe it has to do with at least two things. First it is something in addition to the normal flu which people have already taken into account as normal. Secondly, The death rate is several times higher for Covid-19 than the normal flu. The normal flu is less than 0.1 % death rate. This Covid-19 has a presumed death rate of about 2%. That is a lot higher and we can see that like the normal flu it is very contagious and easily transmitted.
MadMark FEB 26, 09:30 PM
I just looked at the new statistics for today on the Covid-19 outbreak. China is finally calming down on the new cases, at least the number of new cases is rounding off. While still high it is encouraging to see it rounding off.

But, South Korea is spiking. 334 more new cases today and almost 1,600 total cases. So South Korea is on an exponential increase. Hopefully, they have acted soon enough to quarantine the possible new cases. If not it could spiral out of control for quite a while.
maryjane FEB 26, 09:49 PM
A US soldier stationed at Camp Carroll S. Korea has been diagnosed positive for coronavirus. Not a good sign, mostly because of the way military people are housed and fed, and live in close proximity. I don't know how many are stationed at Carroll, but we have about 25,000 total troops in S. Korea.

In other news, a new patient in Solano County Calif has no known contact with anyone that has been to China or even out of the country. CDC is still investigating but so far has turned up no reasonable path or way for this one to have been exposed.
But...there's that 7 degrees of separation thing...

Solano County has the largest percentage Filipino population of any County in all of the United States, and the county's total population is about 460,000.

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MadMark FEB 26, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

A US soldier stationed at Camp Carroll S. Korea has been diagnosed positive for coronavirus. Not a good sign, mostly because of the way military people are housed and fed, and live in close proximity. I don't know how many are stationed at Carroll, but we have about 25,000 total troops in S. Korea.

In other news, a new patient in Solano County Calif has no known contact with anyone that has been to China or even out of the country. CDC is still investigating but so far has turned up no reasonable path or way for this one to have been exposed.
But...there's that 7 degrees of separation thing...

Solano County has the largest percentage Filipino population of any County in all of the United States, and the county's total population is about 460,000.




The US soldier is problematic, because as you say the soldiers live in very close proximity. So, I would expect more cases. Hopefully, this soldier will recover and not be affected too badly and it won't spread very far. But, you never know.

The case in Solano County is understandably problematic. Not knowing how that person got this disease makes tracking it and isolating it very hard. If I remember correctly the Philippines is only one of two countries that has all known cases resolved. One dead and two recovered out of a total of 3. Vietnam is the only other country with that kind of record.