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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 39/146) |
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MadMark
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FEB 24, 12:13 PM
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I am liking the new website I linked to above. It has a lot of information all there in a logical order.
As I went through the information I noted something that I was wondering about anyway. The number of deaths of those who were considered serious as a percentage. Since there are a lot of different levels you can get this virus and its effects, the actual death rate is very hard to figure. But, one thing that stuck out to me was that once a person was bad enough to be hospitalized their rate of death went up significantly. If you are hospitalized and considered seriously infected the death rate goes up to around 15%. And it takes a while for the virus to work on you even if you have effective treatment. So the mean time to death for those that will die, is about 14 days.
So combine all of that and do a little bit of figuring and you come up with some crazy statistics. Right now in China alone there are over 11,000 cases considered serious. I will let you do the math yourself if you are interested.
Ugg. You can get crazy with all of this information and then speculating on it.
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maryjane
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FEB 24, 12:27 PM
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| quote | | But, one thing that stuck out to me was that once a person was bad enough to be hospitalized their rate of death went up significantly. |
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Pretty much holds true for all kinds of illnesses doesn't it? I know it does for measles, pneumonia and flu.
| quote | the ability to transmit the disease before you even know you have it and even the low morbidity plays a role, because if a large number of people died from it right away they wouldn't be able to transmit the virus to others as effectively.
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Did you really mean morbidity? Morbidity refers to how many people become infected. the rate of all or any specific disease within a population. Mortality rate refers to how many die.
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 24, 12:32 PM
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I try not to drive myself insane over things I have no control over. If it gets me, it gets me. Not much I can do about it.
Running around worrying about every little thing is a sure ticket to the nuthouse. I saw enough of those melt-downs in the food industry. And one who did end up in a rubber room for 6 months.
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olejoedad
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FEB 24, 01:15 PM
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They let you out after six months?
Should have kept you longer....😉
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 24, 01:22 PM
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 24, 01:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
They let you out after six months?
Should have kept you longer....😉 |
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No, no, no. They tossed me out in an hour. Docs ran screaming in terror, satan got religion, and the discharge papers said something about avoid at all costs.

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maryjane
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FEB 24, 02:00 PM
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| quote | All U.S. airline stocks were down more sharply than the broader market. The S&P 500 fell 2.6%.
Airline stocks fell Monday as fears about the spread of the coronavirus beyond China added to worries about travel demand and the broader economy, despite a drop in fuel prices.
American Airlines shares led the S&P 500 lower with an 9.8% slide in midday trading, hitting a more than four-month low. Delta Air Lines’ stock lost 7.2% to the lowest price in nearly four months, while United Airlines was off 4.3%.
All U.S. airline stocks were down more sharply than the broader market. The S&P 500 fell 2.6%.
Close to 80,000 cases of the virus, now known as COVID-19, have been reported along with at least 2,621 deaths. Cases outside of China, where most of the infections are located, have increased, with Italy reporting more than 220 and South Korea confirming more than 830.
Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade warned citizens not to travel to affected areas, helping drive down shares of European carriers. Budget airline easyJet lost more than 16% while rival Ryanair was down 12%. Deutsche Lufthansa fell 8.8%, British Airways’ parent, International Consolidated Airlines Group, was off 9% and Air France-KLM fell 8.4%.
More than 200,000 flights to, from and within China have already been canceled because of the virus, according to aviation consulting firm Cirium, and more disruptions are possible if the virus continues to spread.
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Globally, the CV caused airline downturn is expected to cost around $29 billion in 2020.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-24-2020).]
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maryjane
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FEB 24, 02:20 PM
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This, is how they believe the H5N1 flu got spread from China/Vietnam to points in Europe and the Mideast. Is this coronovirus also capable of being spread the same way? Don't know.
 [This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-24-2020).]
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MadMark
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FEB 24, 04:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Did you really mean morbidity? Morbidity refers to how many people become infected. the rate of all or any specific disease within a population. Mortality rate refers to how many die.
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Nope, you're right. Mortality
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MadMark
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FEB 24, 04:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
This, is how they believe the H5N1 flu got spread from China/Vietnam to points in Europe and the Mideast. Is this coronovirus also capable of being spread the same way? Don't know.

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Who knows. So far I have not heard of it spreading by other vectors like birds. But, we humans can fly like the birds too. We just use planes. And we can go just about anywhere in the globe. And that shows up in how the infection is spread.
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