Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 37/146)
MadMark FEB 23, 05:23 AM
Here is an article from Bloomberg News that is looking at trends with this virus. There is a lot of speculation about just where this infestation will go and where it will end up. Even among the medical community. As this article mentions there are now three new hotspots that might bare watching. South Korea, Italy and Iran. Of the three I would worry more about Iran, since they are the definition of autocratic. Iran also does not have a very good health care system either, but I am sure that with their dictatorship they can keep it out of the news for at least a while and if they think it is needed they can take extreme measures to quarantine large segments of their population.

This article also talks about and compares Covid-19 to SARS and MERS. Even though Covid-19 has a death rate much lower than either of the other two it is killing a lot more people.

Along with those items the article also talks about the spread of the virus and the mechanisms of the more lethal version of it.

So I think it is a good read to get a sense of what the medical community is thinking.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/h...ed-about/ar-BB10geqf
MidEngineManiac FEB 23, 07:40 AM
Maybe Washington Post is more to MJs liking.

https://www.washingtonpost....abac6674f_story.html
MidEngineManiac FEB 23, 07:55 AM
Hey white people! Stop trying to fight the virus!

https://www.zerohedge.com/p...oronavirus-spreading
maryjane FEB 23, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Maybe Washington Post is more to MJs liking.

https://www.washingtonpost....abac6674f_story.html


Old news. It has been all over every network and news website for days now.
williegoat FEB 23, 08:50 AM
Shortly after the story broke that there was a case of corona virus at ASU, there were cries of racism as some of the "woke" students began to avoid anyone who looked Asian.
maryjane FEB 23, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by MadMark:

Of the three I would worry more about Iran, since they are the definition of autocratic. Iran also does not have a very good health care system either, but I am sure that with their dictatorship they can keep it out of the news for at least a while and if they think it is needed they can take extreme measures to quarantine large segments of their population.
This article also talks about and compares Covid-19 to SARS and MERS. Even though Covid-19 has a death rate much lower than either of the other two it is killing a lot more people.

Along with those items the article also talks about the spread of the virus and the mechanisms of the more lethal version of it.

So I think it is a good read to get a sense of what the medical community is thinking.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/h...ed-about/ar-BB10geqf



I tend to take a longer/wider view of things, and would be more concerned about Italy. Iran is already pretty much closed off, and tho the potential of an increased # of infections within that nation is high, the potential for further spreading it across the globe in true cataclysmic pandemic fashion is higher in any European or North American country that has open borders. Altho it is not going to be possible (as we've seen) to completely keep it within any one nation or region, it will be much much worse when it gets a real foothold in an area in which people are free to travel to and from other regions in great numbers. Italy, on the southern edge of Europe and the Northern edge of the African continent fits that scenario to a Tee, as would any of the North American states and regions.
maryjane FEB 23, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Shortly after the story broke that there was a case of corona virus at ASU, there were cries of racism as some of the "woke" students began to avoid anyone who looked Asian.


I guess they won't be partaking of Gen Tsao's Chicken over at the China Doll all-you-can-eat buffet?

It's not just in Az.
https://thehill.com/homenew...to-coronavirus-fears


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Across the U.S., Chinese restaurants and businesses are reporting slumping sales due to stigma and fear surrounding the outbreak of a novel coronavirus which originated in Wuhan, China.

Debbie Chen, a restaurant owner in Houston, told USA Today that many businesses are down 50 to 75 percent from their regular traffic, depending on the day.

"There are false rumors going around on social media," Chen said. "There was one rumor talking about one of the local grocery stores, that they'd discovered [the virus] there and ... business went down almost 80 percent immediately."

China has confirmed 72,436 cases and around 1,868 deaths from the virus since the outbreak began late last year. In the U.S., there are approximately 15 confirmed cases of the deadly respiratory virus, according to The Associated Press, and almost all of those patients had personally visited China.

"If you listen to all the different news reports, people are scared," Chen said. "There may be some hints of xenophobia. ... But at the same time, I think that for some people, it might just be ignorance, fear, and there may be people putting things out without thinking about how it impacts working people."

Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) spoke with leaders in the Houston area along with public health officials to reassure patrons who might be avoiding these areas of town due to worries or concerns about coronavirus, according to USA Today.

"We must not stoke any looming fears or stigmas surrounding this public health issue," Green said in a statement, adding that there is no need for the people of Houston to avoid any normal business locations out of fear of the virus.

David Portalatin, the vice president and food industry adviser for the market research company NPD Group, said that the restaurant industry has not seen a significant impact or drop in customers since the outbreak of coronavirus began.

"I wouldn't be surprised if you're seeing some very isolated impacts," Portalatin said.

Steve Ip, a manager at a restaurant in Manhattan's Chinatown, said business has dropped 30 to 40 percent since reports of the outbreak, saying that the decline is felt "especially at lunchtime.


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MidEngineManiac FEB 23, 09:23 AM
I beg to differ. Right on your northern border is a country importing anything and everything from the Middle East as fast as Justine can. If it's in that region then the risk here is high to high.
maryjane FEB 23, 09:32 AM
Italy has 60 million people.
Europe has 513 million.

Canada has 37 million.
Total mideast has 258 million.

You can figure this out MeM..really...We know you can...
Tony Kania FEB 23, 10:27 AM
For what it is worth...

Speaking with a person directly caring for the four sick here in Spokane County. The unit responding to this is well trained, and happy. Pay is amazing, and the environment is calm. They can handle up to a dozen patients in quarantine, but only 8 of the coronavirus due to it's unknowns. Basically all is going well.

But, there is a finite amount of resources available to those in need. 10 facilities like this are around the United States with varying degrees of available care. All able to handle coronavirus, but all with different standing rules. There is worry, of course, that a sudden increase in admissions would overwhelm the staff that is trained for this, and leave other parts of the hospital without proper staffing. The Dr.s and caregivers have been pulled from their perspective assignments to this one, leaving an acceptable gap in the workforce. There are only so many people trained for this.

Eh, rain here today. I have a Fiero to go over...