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1985 Fiero GT
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APR 27, 05:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Does all wheel steering count as "zero turn"?
When I bought my property, I actually negotiated to have two lawn tractors included in the deal... the John Deere 345 (discussed above) and an AWS unit labelled as a Craftsman (sold by Sears Canada) which was made by Murray. This is what it looks like...
I didn't even realize that AWS was something that was available on lawn tractors. I soon discovered though that something was wrong with it (after I bought the property) when I realized that both rear wheels/tires could be turned independently by giving either tire a good kick. It turns out that a lever is broken underneath it that connects the rear wheels to the rest of the steering mechanism. Anyway, I focused on getting the John Deere running (mission now accomplished), and this lawn tractor will be a future project.
I mention all this just to bring AWS into the discussion in case it qualifies as "zero turn". I can't say I'm impressed with the build quality of this Murray lawn tractor (ie the broken rear steering lever), but AWS may be an option to look at depending on what is currently available.
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No zero turn is a 0"uncut radius, where the front wheels steer entirely 90 degrees, and one rear wheel goes forwards and the other backwards, like a tank, but with castors on the front (for the dual handle ones), or if you get a steering wheel version, 90* steering. I bent a tie rod on a fairly big cub Cadet zero turn by digging the wheel into a hole at speed and the bottom of a ditch, that was fun haha, the thing could also do a small wheely, unmodified, and had no suspension (that was not so fun).
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Patrick
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APR 28, 04:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 1985 Fiero GT:
No zero turn is a 0"uncut radius...
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Okay thanks, I was just wondering.
There's something the John Deere 345 lawn tractor has that I just love, it's something none of my Fieros have... POWER STEERING. It's fabulous!  [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 04-28-2025).]
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blackrams
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APR 28, 03:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
BadBoy and Cub Regret Cadet are supposedly still made here in 'Murica..
I don't know for sure anymore tho.
Dixie Chopper is made way down South in Indiana USA. They s'posed to be FAST! |
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My son has a Bad Boy (60 inch cut), he swears by it. Have considered one but hard to justify spending that much on a mower for me. Yeah, I pinch pennies.
I have a six foot finish mower (PTO driven) for my Kubota tractor, I may just buy a cheap push mower to make a round or two around my home and just use the Kubota from now on. Seems like a obvious and less expensive option.
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Rams
Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. . 
You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.
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maryjane
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APR 28, 04:36 PM
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| quote | | No zero turn is a 0"uncut radius, where the front wheels steer entirely 90 degrees, and one rear wheel goes forwards and the other backwards, like a tank, but with castors on the front (for the dual handle ones |
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Are there people that think 'zero turn' means that it can turn 90 or 180° within it's own footprint???
They come kinda close, but they are simply too light to do it every time. There's not enough weight on the smallish locked rear tire to hold it firmly in place, plus the geometry front to rear just isn't there.
The term was coined for and means exactly what it says and nothing else, that no wheel of any kind has to be rotated by the operator rotate in order to result in a change in direction....steering type wheel or a wheel on the ground...that's all.
The only wheeled vehicles that I know of that can easily turn 90-180° are real tractors with independent rear brakes and you don't really want to use them too much pulling a mowing attachment (or anything else. ) You can easily find yourself flung from the seat or turned over with wheels to the sky.
Of course, farm and industrial tractors with lots of heft and large diameter rear wheels aren't the only ones that do (did) it. The story behind McLaren's extra pedal in it's F1 car's cockpit is well known..[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-28-2025).]
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