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sourmash
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DEC 13, 11:44 AM
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CA keeps having recall campaigns against derpy, personally corrupt governors because the high number of disenfranchised people among the electorate. The state should be divided or develop a parliamentary system.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 13, 11:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
[QUOTE]LOS ANGELES - California Democrats called for changes to the state's recall process less than a day after Gov. Gavin Newsom decisively beat back a Republican-led effort to oust him from office.
Assemblymember Marc Berman and state Sen. Steve Glazer, both Democrats, announced on Wednesday plans to hold joint, bipartisan hearings as early as October to examine potential modifications to the recall system. They did not outline any specific proposals that will be addressed during those hearings.
"Yesterday's election highlighted the fundamentally undemocratic nature of California's existing recall process," Berman, chairman of the Assembly Committee on Elections, said during the announcement, held over Zoom. "California laws should not allow an elected official to be recalled and replaced by someone else who receives far fewer votes."
Changing California's recall system, which was established in 1911, would require the state Legislature to pass a proposed amendment to the state Constitution with two-thirds majority in the Assembly and the Senate. The proposed amendment would then appear on a statewide ballot.
Berman said he hopes legislation will be introduced sometime early next year and the issue put to voters on the 2022 ballot. |
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Why are you and others being so dishonest? The recall process is 3 steps, not one, not two. The recall must first be petitioned (if successful) then voted on (if that is successful) THEN a replacement is voted on from a pool of validated candidates. IF, there are a 1,000 validated people in the pool of candidates to choose from to replace the Governor then so be it even if the winner has a VERY low percentage of the total votes. THAT IS EXACTLY how a democracy works. The person with the most votes wins. The ONLY reason the democrats want to change ANYTHING is to keep power away from ANY challenges. And one thing I think you are honest about is keeping the system scandalously skewed in favor of democrats AWAY from fairness for all. The system of recall is not broken or controversial as it stands.[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 12-13-2021).]
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2.5
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DEC 13, 02:57 PM
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2.5
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DEC 13, 03:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
"...add the threat of private lawsuits, we should do just that," he wrote.
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They already attempt to sue the gun manufacturing company sometimes when a gun is used in a crime, that'd be like suing Chevy when someone uses a vehicle in a criminal way.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 12-13-2021).]
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 13, 03:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
They already attempt to sue the gun manufacturing company sometimes when a gun is used in a crime, that'd be like suing Chevy when someone uses a vehicle in a criminal way.
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It's also a way to take guns from Police. If the private citizens use or misuse of a firearm can cause a lawsuit against gun manufacturers, so can any organization who is associated with the firearms. For example, if LAPD was found to be negligent with a firearm then the manufacturer that supplies the LAPD can be sued?
Where does it end?
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2.5
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DEC 13, 04:19 PM
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Heres a short slanted (but you can be the judge if its honest) article.
"The highest-homicide city mayors are just as clueless as their boss is about real solutions, and just as determined to see that you are disarmed."
"Welcome to the... era of “unity and healing.” That’s the one with the attorney general and FBI director who tell us the real problem is with “white supremacists,” with that term reserved for anyone to the “right” of Antifa, anyone against Taliban-style destruction of historic-cultural monuments, any parents protesting their tax dollars being used to race-shame their children in public schools, anyone who questions if they are being told the truth about the 2020 election and about Covid, and especially anyone who believes uncompromisingly in the right of the people to keep and bear arms."
https://www.ammoland.com/20...-on-homicide-cities/
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randye
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DEC 13, 05:20 PM
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Also shocked to discover that their feelings don't matter.
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sourmash
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DEC 13, 05:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Heres a short slanted (but you can be the judge if its honest) article.
"The highest-homicide city mayors are just as clueless as their boss is about real solutions, and just as determined to see that you are disarmed."
"Welcome to the... era of “unity and healing.” That’s the one with the attorney general and FBI director who tell us the real problem is with “white supremacists,” with that term reserved for anyone to the “right” of Antifa, anyone against Taliban-style destruction of historic-cultural monuments, any parents protesting their tax dollars being used to race-shame their children in public schools, anyone who questions if they are being told the truth about the 2020 election and about Covid, and especially anyone who believes uncompromisingly in the right of the people to keep and bear arms."
https://www.ammoland.com/20...-on-homicide-cities/ |
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Just from the blurb it's pretty fair and truthful.
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rinselberg
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DEC 13, 09:50 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Why are you and others being so dishonest? The recall process is 3 steps, not one, not two. The recall must first be petitioned (if successful) then voted on (if that is successful) THEN a replacement is voted on from a pool of validated candidates. IF, there are a 1,000 validated people in the pool of candidates to choose from to replace the Governor then so be it even if the winner has a VERY low percentage of the total votes. THAT IS EXACTLY how a democracy works. The person with the most votes wins. The ONLY reason the democrats want to change ANYTHING is to keep power away from ANY challenges. And one thing I think you are honest about is keeping the system scandalously skewed in favor of democrats AWAY from fairness for all. The system of recall is not broken or controversial as it stands. |
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Not controversial? I dunno . . .
4 needed reforms of California’s recall election rules
https://calmatters.org/comm...call-election-rules/
Editorial: California needs to change ridiculous recall laws
https://www.mercurynews.com...o-change-recall-law/
California’s recall process is dangerously flawed. Here’s what needs to change
https://www.sacbee.com/opin...rticle253864413.html
News Analysis: As recall campaign closes, Californians might be ready to change the system
https://www.latimes.com/cal...ecall-election-rules[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-13-2021).]
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 13, 10:46 PM
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Total propaganda. The articles are extremely bias.
Again the recall is very rare and fair. At the end of the recall the majority of Californians have the final say. The majority decide if there will even be a recall and then the majority of the votes decide the winner.
The democrats want to add a 4th step to the process and complicate the system, and add more time to the already lengthy process.
It is blustering dishonesty to say otherwise.
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