Covid vax,....then positive test and or symptoms? (Page 3/6)
tshark JUL 18, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Information is like building materials. We are all free to chose what we build. Some use it to build a tower from which they might see beyond the horizon, others use it to fortify the walls of their safe space.



In my case, I am living my life the same as before COVID. So, nothing to do with me.
Raydar JUL 18, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by tshark:
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If your wife knows how the vaccines work, she will know how the COVID vaccines would kill me, and what sort of death I would die.



She, nor I, have any idea about your particular situation. But you seem to be painting many people with that same broad brush.
Obviously, there are some people who should not receive the vaccine. Great. Then don't.

We know of no one who has experienced any long lasting adverse effects. (A day or so of muscle aches. Sleepiness. That's it.)
We do (or did) however, personally know at least two people who died of COVID.


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This reminds me of CSI Miami, where they would always claim to follow the facts/science, then cherry-pick...



This whole argument (not just here) is people cherry-picking. People aren't satisfied in doing what's right for them, but digging out that snippet of info that backs up their argument, and then using it in an attempt to "bludgeon" everybody else into bending to their will.
(As if...)

To tell the truth, your previous post reminded me of when another forum member (who absolutely cannot be wrong - just ask him) told me, in no uncertain terms, that my front crossmember would crack, if I cut my springs.
It's been ten years. I'm still waiting...

Raydar JUL 18, 05:08 PM
Aside from all that...
The most "out there" conspiracy theory is that the government is attempting to thin the herd by killing people, over time, with the vaccine.
They would be shooting themselves in the collective foot, if that's the case.

In general, most of the people who are taking the vaccine are Democrats / Liberals / other gumment "friendlies".
The hard-core deniers are going to be the hard core right-wingers.
When everybody left alive is hard-core anti government, how is that gonna work out for them?

Geesh... They didn't think this sh!t through.
tshark JUL 18, 09:36 PM
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Raydar JUL 18, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by tshark:
... I am not a scientist, but I certainly approached this scientifically. Rather than just take everything blindly, we went and were "tested for compatibility" with the vaccine. All the "essential employees" were sent over. Everyone was cleared, except myself and 1 other person in our group. Some were told they would be sick for a few days, and so they were. My results were different. But, since you have an expert who knows the science and how this works, I'd still like to hear how this works. With all those advanced degrees, I'd like to know what it is in the vaccine that would affect me. It's been explained to me several times, by different people, but not in a way I understand. Since you follow the science, I'm sure you are familiar with the process I underwent.



Are you serious?!
You don't even know what the test was, or what they were testing for, but you want me/us to tell you what it was, and then tell you how it worked?
Are you out of your mind?

Get me a name. Somebody will know it. Otherwise it doesn't exist. Just like the cracked crossmember.
Actually, nevermind. Don't. You're not worth my trouble. And certainly not worth my wife's.
tshark JUL 18, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:
Are you serious?!
You don't even know what the test was, or what they were testing for, but you want me/us to tell you what it was, and then tell you how it worked?
Are you out of your mind?

Get me a name. Somebody will know it. Otherwise it doesn't exist. Just like the cracked crossmember.
Actually, nevermind. Don't. You're not worth my trouble. And certainly not worth my wife's.




Wow! That really says more about you than about me. Isn't it amazing that, when someone fails to back their assertions, it "isn't worth their time", and they say the other person is worthless. I did not claim to have advanced degrees, or to be a know-it-all. You bragged about your wife's knowledge of this. I called. You had nothing. Actual, real experts knew exactly what the test was. As stated, I took the scientific approach.


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Originally posted by Raydar:
She (my wife) has multiple advanced degrees in chemistry, medicinal chemistry, etc. She knows how the vaccine works. She understands the science (you know... THAT word that keeps being tossed around) behind it.



Everyone knows an expert with advanced degrees--right up until it comes time for the rubber to hit the road. Then, poof! So, your wife has no idea. Figures. You have no facts. Period. You have no science. Period. Your wife understands...?

While we're at it, you got the experimental, emergency-use-only vaccine, without testing, first? When there was no emergency? That's foolhardy. Not scientific, at all. Not surprising, though. Many people follow the herd.

Reading comprehension is important. I stated that I do not understand how the vaccine "works". Apparently, neither do you. I know what they were testing for (in a general sense), and stated as much. You made your brags. I asked simple questions, and you failed to even answer those. So, you're full of it. The herd mentality at work. Your lack of knowledge is no skin off my nose.

Interesting to know how people in GA really think about other people.

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rinselberg JUL 19, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by tshark:
Everyone knows an expert with advanced degrees--right up until it comes time for the rubber to hit the road. Then, poof! So, your wife has no idea. Figures. You have no facts. Period. You have no science. Period. Your wife understands...?

While we're at it, you got the experimental, emergency-use-only vaccine, without testing, first? When there was no emergency? That's foolhardy. Not scientific, at all. Not surprising, though. Many people follow the herd.

Reading comprehension is important. I stated that I do not understand how the vaccine "works". Apparently, neither do you. I know what they were testing for (in a general sense), and stated as much. You made your brags. I asked simple questions, and you failed to even answer those. So, you're full of it. The herd mentality at work. Your lack of knowledge is no skin off my nose.

Interesting to know how people in GA really think about other people.


"When there was no emergency . . ."

So President Trump, the genius being the Warp Speed vaccine development project, got "played" by people who wanted to conjure up the illusion of a pandemic in order to exploit it for their own agenda or profit?

Or was President Trump one of the conjurers of the pandemic illusion?

When I saw President Trump's first TV appearances about it--the daily "Covid briefings" from the Trump administration, featuring DJT himself as the headliner--I thought what many other people thought: That Trump saw this as an opportunity to "score" free TV air time for himself with heavy press coverage, as a way to boost his prospects of being reelected to a second four-year term.

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Raydar JUL 19, 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by tshark:

Wow! That really says more about you than about me. Isn't it amazing that, when someone fails to back their assertions, it "isn't worth their time", and they say the other person is worthless. I did not claim to have advanced degrees, or to be a know-it-all. You bragged about your wife's knowledge of this. I called. You had nothing. Actual, real experts knew exactly what the test was. As stated, I took the scientific approach.

Everyone knows an expert with advanced degrees--right up until it comes time for the rubber to hit the road. Then, poof! So, your wife has no idea. Figures. You have no facts. Period. You have no science. Period. Your wife understands...?

While we're at it, you got the experimental, emergency-use-only vaccine, without testing, first? When there was no emergency? That's foolhardy. Not scientific, at all. Not surprising, though. Many people follow the herd.

Reading comprehension is important. I stated that I do not understand how the vaccine "works". Apparently, neither do you. I know what they were testing for (in a general sense), and stated as much. You made your brags. I asked simple questions, and you failed to even answer those. So, you're full of it. The herd mentality at work. Your lack of knowledge is no skin off my nose.




Nope. I simply don't believe you. I'm calling "bullshit".

You posted about some "compatibility test" that you and your co-workers were given. Strange that the availability of this test has never been mentioned anywhere else that I have heard or can find.
So you're willing to believe the results of the "test"? What if the test had said you were clear? Would you have then been okay with it? I doubt it.

I stand by what I said. No company worth working for would perform such a test, and not give you documentation. Even if it's just the third page of a carbon-copy form. You were given something.
Give me the name of the test. Or give me the condition that afflicts you that would make you "ineligible". Send it in PM if you don't want to post it. I promise I won't divulge it. (Heck, I'm actually curious, myself.) Give us something to research. Or don't.
But until I have something, I'm not going to bug my wife about it.

In the meantime, throw all the bullshit and accusations you want.

By the way, since you felt the need to take a cheap shot at my location, my comments reflect nobody's thoughts but my own. But feel free to stereotype, if that works for you.
Since I'm pretty sure you won't (can't) respond to my request. I'll just leave it here. The last word is yours. Make it count.

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tshark JUL 19, 07:33 AM
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Raydar JUL 19, 07:50 AM
Update: I asked her. She said if there was such a test, it would be available on a much larger scale, and widely known. (In other words, it wouldn't just be available to a smaller company. And if it were a large company, everyone would likely know about it.)
Edit - So yeah... I still think your so-called test is imaginary. UNLESS...

Unless you just had some sort of known allergy that would automatically exclude you from taking the vax. Which, if that's the case, I wonder why you didn't just say that in the first place.

Edit 2 - There are two identified potential allergies.
Polyethylene Glycol. And Polysorbate 80.

Polyethylene Glycol allergies are so uncommon that some allergen experts go for decades and see only one or two cases.
Polysorbate 80 is an ingredient of some common items, so I suspect reactions could be more frequent.
Food shortening, gum, ice cream, gelatin, vitamins, condiments

But I suspect that's not going to be good enough for you either.
So however you want to spin this, it looks like you win. At least in your mind.

But back up a bit... When I first mentioned her, I simply stated that her background and opinion were good enough to satisfy any misgivings that *I* might have had about taking the vax.
I didn't attempt to tell you that you were wrong. To tell the truth, I don't give much of a fsck what you, or anyone else, put into your body. Or don't. (I *did* hear that bleach works well.)
You seem to be hell-bent on telling me, and anyone else who has taken the vax that we're wrong. If I've misconstrued that well...

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