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Rickady88GT
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JUL 15, 09:01 PM
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I really don't follow the covid stuff, but like politics it creeps into our lives. So my question is, has anyone noticed the news coverage of vaxed people catching the vid, or testing positive?
To be clear, I do not consider a person to "have covid" if they only have a positive test but no symptoms. This is only my personal opinion and I am sure people disagree, and that is fine with me.
I have seen several news articles and reports of infections in vaxed people. So is it me or is the media focusing on this type of infection?
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rinselberg
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JUL 15, 09:35 PM
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I think your very last sentence answers itself (about the media coverage.)
Symptomatic Covid--not just positive Covid tests but Covid symptoms--are currently on an upwards trend and it's almost entirely among unvaccinated people. It's being attributed to the Delta variant, which is now the dominant strain of the Covid virus in the U.S.
The vaccines are not quite as effective in protecting people against the Delta variant as they have shown against the other and earlier strains of the virus, but they are still highly effective. If the vaccines were being graded like students at a college or tech school, they were earning an "A" before, but now, against the Delta variant--just an "A minus."
That's what I believe. And it's getting a lot of media coverage.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-21-2021).]
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Fats
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JUL 15, 09:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
That's what I believe. And it's getting a lot of media coverage |
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I never would have thought that you would believe anything that the "media" tells you. [/sarcasm]
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sourmash
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JUL 15, 10:05 PM
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Lol.
Yeah, the 'vaccine' ain't so great. There was a recent report of a 22 year old vaccinated food celebrity who died in the middle of streaming her regular cooking session. She had a heart attack supposedly from an enlarged heart cause by the injection.
I didn't chase down the report myself. It was on Republic Broadcasting Network dotcom on Mike Rivero's show.
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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JUL 15, 11:33 PM
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The vaccines are only supposed to be around 90% effective(at best), right? so 10-15% of folks who got the shot(s) are still gonna catch it if they are adequately exposed. And then they’ll feeike crap for a few days or weeks and then be fine… or not. Who the heck knows?
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Hudini
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JUL 16, 12:38 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Lol.
Yeah, the 'vaccine' ain't so great. There was a recent report of a 22 year old vaccinated food celebrity who died in the middle of streaming her regular cooking session. She had a heart attack supposedly from an enlarged heart cause by the injection.
I didn't chase down the report myself. It was on Republic Broadcasting Network dotcom on Mike Rivero's show. |
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Actually the vaccines are great. 90 to 95% efficacy is downright awesome. We shall see how this affects the world population over the long term.
That said, a healthy 22 year old doesn't need it for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Us old farts need it to keep us out of the hospital. We aren't going to be around too much longer anyway so I will volunteer to be the test mouse for my kids and grand kids.
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Jake_Dragon
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JUL 16, 01:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Actually the vaccines are great. 90 to 95% efficacy is downright awesome. We shall see how this affects the world population over the long term.
That said, a healthy 22 year old doesn't need it for a virus with a 99% survival rate. Us old farts need it to keep us out of the hospital. We aren't going to be around too much longer anyway so I will volunteer to be the test mouse for my kids and grand kids. |
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They already gave away your SS so why not.
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maryjane
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JUL 16, 08:14 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
I really don't follow the covid stuff, but like politics it creeps into our lives. So my question is, has anyone noticed the news coverage of vaxed people catching the vid, or testing positive?
To be clear, I do not consider a person to "have covid" if they only have a positive test but no symptoms. This is only my personal opinion and I am sure people disagree, and that is fine with me.
I have seen several news articles and reports of infections in vaxed people. So is it me or is the media focusing on this type of infection? |
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I'm not sure what 'catching the vid' means in relation to covid19, but much depends which 'news' one watches/listens/adheres to.
A relatively high % of the new cases seem to be the Delta variant. Around 60-70% in areas where the new cases are on the upswing.
The liberal news seems to be focusing on the number of younger unvaccinated people (20s-30s) that are contracting and spreading the Delta variant and the conservative side is focusing on number of fully vaccinated people that are contracting while marginalizing that most are surviving without hospital care of all variants with mild or non-existent symptoms.
The 'way out there news' sources are still trying to focus attention on side effects of the vaccines without much traction.
https://www.nbcnews.com/hea...lta-variant-n1273998
https://www.valleycentral.c...cal-health-official/[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 07-16-2021).]
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sourmash
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JUL 16, 08:30 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Actually the vaccines are great. 90 to 95% efficacy is downright awesome. We shall see how this affects the world population over the long term. |
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Well, that doesn't make them great if they kill people. And thousands are dying from them.
"The injections might not kill you", is accurate. No. "The injections might kill you", is the most accurate. Plus masses of people who got shots die with covid still.
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Raydar
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JUL 16, 10:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
.. And thousands are dying from them.
... Plus masses of people who got shots die with covid still. |
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Exaggerate much? Define "masses".
Got a link for these assertions?
There are going to be people who receive the vaccine who are going to die. Chances are, they had underlying conditions that would have killed them, probably sooner than later, anyway.
(It came out that the number of vaccinated younger people - as a percentage of the population - with heart inflammation is not out of the realm of what could be expected, anyway.)
There are also going to be people (a small percentage) who received the vax who are going to catch COVID. Maybe even die. But they've got a much better chance of survival than they would have, otherwise.
The emergency rooms and ICUs not being packed, anymore, is proof enough for me that the vaccine is effective. And don't tell me that didn't happen. You'd be wrong.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 07-16-2021).]
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