Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 22/146)
maryjane FEB 07, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


Wouldn't the air recirculate through each room spreading the virus? It's not like each room has it's own air.



No more so (and probably less so) than a large office, apartment, or other skyscraper type building would.


MadMark FEB 07, 02:12 PM
The little web site that is supposedly continuously tracking the virus, has been stuck at just over 31K for over 24 hours for infections and 636 for deaths. It has had minor bumps up one or two at time, which I would assume are the numbers coming in from outside of China. It seems like the Chinese have decided to hold back the numbers for a while, for what ever reason.

That web site is: https://gisanddata.maps.arc...40299423467b48e9ecf6

It was put on this thread by someone else a couple of days ago. Up till yesterday it seemed to track pretty regularly.
MadMark FEB 07, 02:14 PM
"One of the girls on a cattle board I frequent has a father-in-law on one of the infected cruise ships.
In quarantine of course and he texts her that it is absolute misery for anyone not situated in a cabin on the outside..the cabins with windows and view of the sky/ocean. They are all ordered to stay within their cabins all day except for a few minutes a few passengers at a time to be able to get sunshine and fresh air. Last reported there were 62 confirmed cases abord the ship."

That would be miserable. And I would think it would enhance the chance of someone getting the virus that didn't have it already.
2.5 FEB 07, 04:42 PM
https://www.washingtonpost....what-we-know-so-far/

"The good news is that public health officials say the new coronavirus is less deadly than SARS, which killed about 10 percent of people who were infected during the outbreak that began in 2002. "….

"The bad news is that the new coronavirus appears to spread much more easily than SARS"

“To complicate things even more, we don’t know which individuals are likely to spread the virus,” said Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. “Is it those with more-serious respiratory infections or coughing, or are those who have mild symptoms equally likely to be spreading it? I think we don’t know that at this point.”

"A case report that showed the illness could spread before symptoms occurred turned out to be incorrect, although a top U.S. official has said he still believes it can spread without symptoms, based on discussions with Chinese experts. "

"“In SARS, which is often cited as the other example, it seemed people were quite sick before they started transmitting, and that’s why, in my view, SARS was ultimately controlled,” said Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. “You really could isolate the discernibly sick people.”

***How do you treat this coronavirus illness?

There is no specific antiviral treatment recommended for this infection. People who have gotten sick should receive supportive care to help relieve symptoms.

***How do you protect yourself from getting infected?

There is currently no vaccine to prevent infection. The best way to protect yourself is to use the same common-sense actions experts recommend for preventing the spread of other respiratory viruses, such as flu and cold.

=Stay away from people who are sick. Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, especially after going to the bathroom, before eating and after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.

If you don’t have access to soap and water, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60 percent alcohol. Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands.

Stay home when you are sick. Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue and throw the tissue in the trash. Or sneeze like a vampire, into your elbow rather than your hand. Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe"

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“This virus can do anything it wants,” McGeer said. “That pattern of how it’s going to spread is completely unknown, but it is critical to what the burden is going to be to all of us. "

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MadMark FEB 07, 07:10 PM
The statistics finally changed. We are now up to 34,397 cases and 719 deaths.
maryjane FEB 07, 08:14 PM
the worst part of that cruise ship's 2 week quarantine is that if any new case(s) are found aboard ship (passengers or crew) it sets the quarantine clock back 2 weeks.
MadMark FEB 07, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

the worst part of that cruise ship's 2 week quarantine is that if any new case(s) are found aboard ship (passengers or crew) it sets the quarantine clock back 2 weeks.



I noticed that. That is like torture for the people on the ship. Every new case resets the clock. And having everyone in such close proximity will most likely cause more cases to pop up. It would be a nightmare for the passengers and the crew. I can't even imagine what is going through their minds. It might make be a good thing to bring them to a place where they can be separated and isolated so that their won't be any more infections occurring.
MadMark FEB 07, 11:36 PM
Looking at the website that has the information on it, there is a slight chance that things are leveling off. The linear graph is starting to go linear instead of exponential. That would be a great thing meaning that the methods that the Chinese Government is taking is starting to work. I sure hope so. But, it might just be an anomaly or it might be a glitch in reporting. I would like to see a few more days of leveling off before trying to call it.
MidEngineManiac FEB 07, 11:40 PM
Might also be what I usually expect from governments.

It's the exact same thing I used to shovel out of the horse stalls.
maryjane FEB 08, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by MadMark:

Looking at the website that has the information on it, there is a slight chance that things are leveling off. The linear graph is starting to go linear instead of exponential. That would be a great thing meaning that the methods that the Chinese Government is taking is starting to work. I sure hope so. But, it might just be an anomaly or it might be a glitch in reporting. I would like to see a few more days of leveling off before trying to call it.



NYT is reporting that an American in Wuhan has died from the virus. I can't get the article to open tho.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...ronavirus-china.html



it's been 3 days since Hudini checked in.

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