Keep on vaxxing in the slave world !! (Page 2/3)
rinselberg FEB 07, 11:51 AM
I posted the article that I found and deemed worthy of highlighting (written to debunk the article that MEM posted) and I presented it without any commentary or editorializing of my own. I didn't say it was "fact." I haven't yet said it was "fact." There really isn't much (if anything) that I could say about Covid or the Covid vaccines that I know to be fact, with the same high level of assurance that I could provide about the factuality of the current, local weather conditions, which I could observe directly by going outside.

I think of what I posted originally, when I first came in here, as like a downpayment or a wager on a fuller discussion that could emerge, if enough people (including myself) decide it has enough meaning for them to pursue it. I provided a starting point. The article that I posted was accredited to a "Tom Norton." And so:

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I might want to see what else I could find out about this Tom Norton. Or [look more carefully to see] if there is another critique or reaction [to the article that the MidEngineManiac posted at the very top of this thread.]


That's what I suggest for anyone (including myself) who is motivated enough to want to discover more about the article that MEM posted at the very top of this thread.

At this moment, I am not that motivated. I'm not anxious or agitated about the article that MEM posted at the very top of this thread. I am wagering (so to speak) that the article that MEM posted at the very top of this thread is mostly nonsense, if not total nonsense.

Will the wagering continue? Will more bets be placed? Will I think of another remark that I want to memorialize here before I Submit?

** Can't think of one **

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rinselberg FEB 07, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by randye:

Because you can always trust the "integrity" of a bunch of random "fact checkers" whose "Who We Are" section...

NEVER TELLS YOU WHO THEY ARE.



There is more about the FULL FACT website right here:
https://fullfact.org/about/...d-questions/#funding

And here:
https://fullfact.org/about/

I think maybe the FULL FACT website was updated with this "About us" information after Pennock's forum member "randye" jumped into this thread with his usual childish and petty grousing about me. I wonder why he inserted himself into this thread, if that's all he has to say about the topic that started it, which was the article that MEM posted that was published under the facially alarming banner "Official Government of Canada data suggests the Fully Vaccinated are just weeks away from developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome."

This reminds me of the time, shortly after "Covid" first entered the global lexicon, when some other forum member (not me) said something about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and forum member "randye" jumped all over it, saying (in so many words) that I was an idiot to have said such a thing, when it was actually some other forum member's remark that he was jumping on. He even started his childish rant on that occasion by quoting the other forum member's remarks, which revealed the other forum member's screen name. Not "rinselberg". How dumb is that?

I'm not making this up. I could easily reproduce it. I have a screen grab saved in my "Pennock's" folder. After it happened, I went to some length with my public messages to "rub his noise in it", hoping that he might rethink his constant public disparaging of other forum members, but unlike a pup, he cannot be "house-trained" in that way.

If it's OK for forum member "randye" to enter this thread in the way that he has, seemingly for no purpose other than to disparage me with snide remarks, such as (in so many words) "rinselberg" and MEM deserve each other, then shouldn't it be OK for me to respond in this way, for anyone who might be reading along. Am I wrong about this?

I hope this thread doesn't get closed by the moderator. I don't think it needs to be. Not yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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Patrick FEB 07, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

...then shouldn't it be OK for me to respond in this way...?



Oh no, of course not. If you respond in a similar fashion, it really irks the instigator (and his forum buddies). It's rather funny how that works.
rinselberg FEB 07, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
Oh no, of course not. If you respond in a similar fashion, it really irks the instigator (and his forum buddies). It's rather funny how that works.


Good point.
randye FEB 07, 09:24 PM
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rinselberg FEB 07, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by randye:
MeM cites an article from anonymous bullshitters which you immediately "fact check" with your own article from anonymous bullshitters. Undeniable proof that you two deserve each other.



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Originally posted by randye:
1.) Because it's not my job to do work for you.
2.) Because you don't get to decide for anyone else on this forum what's "constructive" or what isn't.
<snip>


Of course, I don't get to decide for anyone else what's constructive on this forum, but I am damn sure entitled to opine about it.

Where do you get off with that snide remark that "rinselberg" and MeM deserve each other? Not that I particularly mind being paired with MeM in this context, but who are you to decide that other forum members "deserve" each other? Of course, you're entitled to opine about it, but he who opines is fair game for being "opined" in return.

Now it may be that you were upended (so to speak) by the FULL FACT website and the "About us" information that wasn't there (apparently) when you looked at it, and then appeared (as I have discovered) after you looked at it. Any sane person might have pointed that out--the missing or empty page of "About us" information at the FULL FACT website--but without using that as a rationale or pretext (that's really what it is) to serve up some disparaging remarks about me. Not "bigly" disparaging remarks, by your hideous standards, but I'm wanting to be more reactive about this, at this particular moment.

If you hadn't seized on that pretext to make the disparaging remarks about me that you have inserted into this thread, you wouldn't be so embarrasingly pinioned in the stockade here, as it were, with egg (or worse) all over your face.

There's not much doubt in my mind that your only reason for entering this thread in the first instance was because you saw "rinselberg" in the Last Post column and decided it would be an opening for you to insert some disparaging remarks about me. I don't think you had any "honest" interest in the Topic itself, as MeM set it up.

My suggestion to you, which I have tried to convey on countless instances over the last several years, is to focus on making your points in a positive and fully civil (or civilized) way, without disparaging anyone else. Especially me.

That is enough to give me confidence that when I use the Submit Reply function to create this message, whatever sorry excuse or diatribe or whatever it was you said in the message that immediately precedes this message will be automatically scrolled upwards in my browser window and completely out of my sight, because I don't even want to see it.

"Bon voyage, unwanted forum message. I condemn you to the most inhospitable and far distant waters of the Antarctic Ocean."

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randye FEB 07, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


Of course, I don't get to decide for anyone else what's constructive on this forum, but I am damn sure entitled to opine about it.


...disparaging remarks about me.

...disparaging anyone else. Especially me.





The other side of that "equation" is that your opinion(s) have to be valued and respected for them to be worth a goddamn thing, but a quick glance under your avatar clearly demonstrates that they aren't.

That isn't a "personal attack". That is the objective, factual, considered vote of the vast majority of the members of this forum who have passed judgment on your "contributions".

Quite obviously YOU are the proximate cause of your own "disparagement", not me.



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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I hope this thread doesn't get closed by the moderator.




You have already ensured that it will.

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rinselberg FEB 08, 02:48 AM
Your transition to the Non-Disparaging Posting Paradigm may seem awkward at first, but you'll be surprised at how quickly it becomes natural to you.

I sensed that you were finally ready to take this step.
GT-X FEB 08, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Every post




Your incessant sesquipedalian loquaciousness makes me wish this forum had a block user function.

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rinselberg FEB 08, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by GT-X:
Your incessant sesquipedalian loquaciousness makes me wish this forum had a block user function.


That's something I suggested myself, and not all that long ago, to Cliff Pennock.

I wouldn't think of using it to block you. I had someone else in mind.

Are you up to speed on the Black List functionality that Cliff Pennock implemented, recently?
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/099928.html

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