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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 19/146) |
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E.Furgal
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FEB 06, 12:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MadMark:
BTW, mr furgal. I am taking no jobs from anyone. I own a business. I do things not very many people can do. Certainly not you. And I am looking forward to sharing my experience and knowledge with the younger people as my business expands. As I have done over the years that I have worked.
I do not double dip. I dip a lot more than that. I get my pension from GM where I worked for 32 years. Or at least half of it, since I am divorced and by law, my ex gets half of it. I get my Social Security too. I paid into this all of my working life and still have to pay into it too. It is something the government contracted with me for and after decades of paying into it, I get to receive some of it back every month. I also get a small amount of money from the VA for my loss of hearing that I suffered during my time spent protecting this country. And I get money from providing services to other businesses and people for a fair amount of money for things that they cannot do, or cannot find other companies to do. So I proudly do take the money from these four sources of income. It is my right to this money that allows me to profit from it. Your jealousy does not preclude me from receiving this compensation.
And just for a little bit of explanation. I have three of my own children and three step children, who I have helped out over the last 15 years to get ahead. I have spend some of my hard earned money and time supporting them and their children so that they can get their feet under them. And thankfully they are all doing well now. And I don't regret helping them out, even the months that we had my wife and I, along with my step-daughter, her husband and their 4 children living with us in our 3 bedroom house. They are now in their own apartment. Both employed and doing better than ever. And three of their children are out of the house now and making a living on their own. Tough times come and go. And I don't mind helping out those that want to help themselves.
I hope that you will soon figure out how to make it on your own. But, you need to get that chip off of your shoulder. No one, especially a business owner will put up with that attitude. I wish you well, but get over yourself. |
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Clearly you didn't even read my post. just the comment "I hope that you will soon figure out how to make it on your own" clearly shows you didn't I have a job, 32 years in to same company. I also do side jobs.
I was taking about what it is like for todays YOUTH. as I have watch my niece and nephew. that are 21 and 26. going through. If she was a male, she have a job in her field. The nephew has a engineering degree . Neither one is lazy. both work 60+ hours a week. while hunting for job's in their field.
So, as seen as you could not be bothered to read my post. I got nothing more to say.[This message has been edited by E.Furgal (edited 02-06-2020).]
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E.Furgal
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FEB 06, 12:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
E.Furgal, it must suck to be you. Why do you even try in life ? Oh wait, you don't.
I have never worked in a machine shop either. I know I could get that job. Some times you just gotta believe. What made that ant think he could move that rubber tree plant ? |
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I know you are sore and maybe on meds. but I went to apply at the machine shop for a p/t job to MOONLIGHT. and learn. I have a full time job. same one for 32 years. The moon lighting was to learn, and maybe down the road change careers, as I'm numb to what I do now. They didn't want to hire someone with another job. no matter that I am a long term employee. so it wasn't going to be an earn money for Christmas then quit type thing. You'd not get that job, as I doubt you'd take it at a part time gig at min wage. heck you'd more than likely not even bother applying .
I saw it as away to learn. and maybe change careers.
Hope your not in to much pain. get well soon.
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Jake_Dragon
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FEB 06, 12:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by E.Furgal:
I got nothing more to say.
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MadMark
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FEB 06, 01:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by E.Furgal:
Clearly you didn't even read my post. just the comment "I hope that you will soon figure out how to make it on your own" clearly shows you didn't I have a job, 32 years in to same company. I also do side jobs.
I was taking about what it is like for todays YOUTH. as I have watch my niece and nephew. that are 21 and 26. going through. If she was a male, she have a job in her field. The nephew has a engineering degree . Neither one is lazy. both work 60+ hours a week. while hunting for job's in their field.
So, as seen as you could not be bothered to read my post. I got nothing more to say.
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Furgal's statement: "know you are sore and maybe on meds. but I went to apply at the machine shop for a p/t job to MOONLIGHT. and learn. I have a full time job. same one for 32 years. The moon lighting was to learn, and maybe down the road change careers, as I'm numb to what I do now. They didn't want to hire someone with another job. no matter that I am a long term employee. so it wasn't going to be an earn money for Christmas then quit type thing. You'd not get that job, as I doubt you'd take it at a part time gig at min wage. heck you'd more than likely not even bother applying .
I saw it as away to learn. and maybe change careers."
Kind of puts the lie to what you said in the insert. I have read and I comprehend pretty well. Quit whining.
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MadMark
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FEB 06, 03:50 PM
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Back to the original post:
Someone mentioned that thousands in the US die every year from regular flue. After looking it up, I found the average infection rate reported is calculated to be 49 million people. They really don't know the actual number since the CDC does not require reporting of cases of regular flue. And as most of you have had the flu before would note, most people who get the flu, just stay home for a few days get over it and don't even talk to a doctor. So let us just make the same assumption of 49 million infected with regular flu. Then the CDC says that the average flu death rate is 36k in the US. So we get to divide that 36K by the 49 million and we get 0.07% rate of death for normal flu. And that gives us 36.000 average deaths.
Let us then do a little bit of calculating for the Wu Flu. If the death rate is only 2%, and the same number of people were to get infected with it as with normal flu, we would then get 980,000 deaths. Double that if it gets to the 4% rate. I would think that might cause people to take notice.
Right now it is obvious that in China the infection rate is still in an exponential expansion mode. Even with the drastic actions by the Chinese government it doesn't seem that their tactics are having much effect. There are also quite a few reports out now by reputable news agencies that are saying that the reporting by the Chinese authorities for the number of cases and for the number of deaths is way off. So to me at least this bares watching closely. I think our government has taken appropriate measures to protect us in the US. It certainly seems reasonable to quarantine people for 2 weeks when they come from an area where the infection is raging. It also seems reasonable to me to restrict people who are not US citizens from coming to the US from areas known to be sources of Wu Flu infection.
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 06, 04:05 PM
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Reasonable steps, yes. BUT
Too late to do any good.
This virus had a good 10-day head start. 10 days of nTH person transmission. Of a reported 14 day incubation. It will take another week-10 days to really get a handle on the spread in the rest of the world.
Some forums have also had articles suggesting a race-specific (IE, targeting Asians ) pattern to it, but that's probably too early to identify given the demographic of the outbreak area.
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MadMark
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FEB 06, 04:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Reasonable steps, yes. BUT
Too late to do any good.
This virus had a good 10-day head start. 10 days of nTH person transmission. Of a reported 14 day incubation. It will take another week-10 days to really get a handle on the spread in the rest of the world.
Some forums have also had articles suggesting a race-specific (IE, targeting Asians ) pattern to it, but that's probably too early to identify given the demographic of the outbreak area. |
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The reasonable steps I refer to are here in the US. I really don't know what you are doing in Canada. But, I hope your government is not too stupid about this. Or we might need to build that wall on the Northern Border too.
sarc
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 06, 04:40 PM
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MadMark
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FEB 06, 06:19 PM
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maryjane and others more familiar with the oil industry, I have a question and a concern that I would hope you can address.
Since China is on lock down across a large portion of the countryside, their use of oil products has decreased by 20%. This is proving to glut the worldwide oil markets. I saw today that gasoline is down to $2.25 a gallon here in Mid Michigan. That is the lowest its been in a while. The worry I have is that the price of a barrel of oil will drop too far, because of this glut. By too far I mean that it will drop so far that our producers in the US will not be able to continue to make a profit and may have to shut down production on their higher cost wells. Specifically the ones that have brought about this boon in oil in the US. It was my understanding that oil prices needed to be somewhere around $60 a barrel for those type of wells to make a profit. So is this oil glut going to decimate our US oil producers? Will it cause the US to become dependent on offshore oil supplies again?
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Tony Kania
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FEB 06, 07:18 PM
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