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randye
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APR 26, 08:11 PM
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Legal language is precise and individual words have important meaning. Many states are what are called "SHALL ISSUE" states where law says that the applicant (absent any criminal record disqualification) SHALL be issued a concealed carry permit.
Other states, particularly Leftist ones, have "MAY ISSUE" laws where the state decides whether or not the applicant has "a good reason" to be issued the (rare) concealed carry permit.
From the article: "The petition for a writ of certiorari is granted limited to the following question: Whether the State's denial of petitioners' applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violated the Second Amendment," the court said in an order."
That is very "narrow" as far as SCOTUS writs of cert. go and it more than indicates that the court does NOT intend to mess around with other states CCW laws.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 04-30-2021).]
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2.5
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APR 28, 12:18 PM
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I mean what else can they really say?
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"The court rarely takes Second Amendment cases. Now it’s decided to hear one of the most critical Second Amendment issues," NRA Institute for Legislative Action executive director Jason Ouimet said in a statement. "We’re confident that the court will tell New York and the other states that our Second Amendment right to defend ourselves is fundamental, and doesn’t vanish when we leave our homes."
The case will likely be argued in the fall"
I suppose the real argument is what falls under states and what falls under federal.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 04-28-2021).]
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2.5
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APR 29, 05:30 PM
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For anyone who doesn't know: How the Fast and Furious scandal is related to the 2nd amendment.
Useing the data they purposely caused to claim that there isn't enough gun control regs in the USA.
ATF, Attorneys office, and others...
At the 15:55 min mark, and 20:15...
"90% of guns found in Mexico"
Some of the coverup and retaliation: from the 21:30 min mark
How they did it at the 24 min mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dn4VWXS-68
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rinselberg
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APR 30, 02:40 PM
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| quote | | Mexico’s Foreign Ministry estimates that more than 2.5 million guns have flooded over America’s southern border [to buyers in Mexico or buyers that took the guns across the border and into Mexico] in the last decade [of 2010 to 2020.] |
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From one of my previous posts:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/125575-3.html#p118
I don't know how many guns were "gun-walked" to Mexico during "Fast and Furious" but surely it could only have been like a drop in an ocean of more than 2 million guns.
Would you (2.5) say that the Katie Pavlich video that you just posted contradicts that estimate from Mexico's Foreign Ministry, which was published in the New York Times?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 04-30-2021).]
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2.5
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APR 30, 03:10 PM
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williegoat
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APR 30, 03:44 PM
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If Biden and Obrador are serious about stopping the flow of guns, in either direction, maybe they could work together to put up some kind of barrier like...I don't know...maybe a wall or something. If Obrador thinks the guns are coming from the US, maybe he should chip in some pesos...you know...Mexico could maybe PAY FOR THE WALL.
No, I guess that would be just silly, you know...racist or something. Maybe Mexico is racist against gringos. You think?
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maryjane
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APR 30, 04:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
From one of my previous posts:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/125575-3.html#p118
I don't know how many guns were "gun-walked" to Mexico during "Fast and Furious" but surely it could only have been like a drop in an ocean of more than 2 million guns.
Would you (2.5) say that the Katie Pavlich video that you just posted contradicts that estimate from Mexico's Foreign Ministry, which was published in the New York Times?
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About 1800 to 2500 in the largest F&F gunwalking operation, tho ATF says the official # is 1,961 guns but that wasn't the only ATF operation that was done. There were others before that, all part of umbrella Project Gunrunner. Most notable besides F&F was was Operation Wide Receiver that ran from early 2006 to late 2007 and that one lost about 450 guns.
'06-'07 was under President G.W. Bush.
We will probably never know the real scope and numbers, as the 2016 House of Rep lawsuit to force Atty General Eric Holder's DOJ to release all gunwalking records was dropped when the Dems took control of congress.
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Hudini
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MAY 02, 09:09 AM
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Well well, SCOTUS has decided to take up a gun rights case after 10 years of silence.
"On Monday, the Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal by two petitioners challenging New York’s denial of their applications for concealed-carry firearm licenses. "
https://thefederalist.com/2...eme-court-just-took/
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sourmash
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MAY 02, 10:09 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
About 1800 to 2500 in the largest F&F gunwalking operation, tho ATF says the official # is 1,961 guns but that wasn't the only ATF operation that was done. There were others before that, all part of umbrella Project Gunrunner. Most notable besides F&F was was Operation Wide Receiver that ran from early 2006 to late 2007 and that one lost about 450 guns.
'06-'07 was under President G.W. Bush.
We will probably never know the real scope and numbers, as the 2016 House of Rep lawsuit to force Atty General Eric Holder's DOJ to release all gunwalking records was dropped when the Dems took control of congress. |
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Are you insinuating our government doesn't want to pursue the truth openly?[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 05-02-2021).]
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sourmash
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MAY 02, 10:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
From one of my previous posts:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/125575-3.html#p118
I don't know how many guns were "gun-walked" to Mexico during "Fast and Furious" but surely it could only have been like a drop in an ocean of more than 2 million guns.
Would you (2.5) say that the Katie Pavlich video that you just posted contradicts that estimate from Mexico's Foreign Ministry, which was published in the New York Times?
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Will you admit that our government violates the regs and laws it claims are there to preserve safety?
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