An American 2nd Amendment thread (Page 15/23)
2.5 MAR 19, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

For the record the best home defense weapon is still the shot gun, you want someone to drop a load in their pants rack a 12 ga in a dark room.
Personal "defense" weapons are used to protect us from those that are hiding in plain sight, not those that enter in the dark. Both foreign and domestic.




Some thoughts:

Its good to have a light on your weapon to identify the threat, since we don't get to choose when and where they appear

I see Personal vs Home defense as essentially just referring to where you are at a given time, and who is with you.

Foreign and domestic, that brings to mind organized military threats or guerrilla warfare. I do wonder how many nations would think twice before a ground attack on us due to US citizens being armed. If they did, assuming they would not have shotguns as primary weapons, I would prefer something at least similar in effect to their weapons.
...Though the biggest threat may simply be fire.

Jake_Dragon MAR 19, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:

Some thoughts:

Its good to have a light on your weapon to identify the threat, since we don't get to choose when and where they appear

I see Personal vs Home defense as essentially just referring to where you are at a given time, and who is with you.

Foreign and domestic, that brings to mind organized military threats or guerrilla warfare. I do wonder how many nations would think twice before a ground attack on us due to US citizens being armed. If they did, assuming they would not have shotguns as primary weapons, I would prefer something at least similar in effect to their weapons.
...Though the biggest threat may simply be fire.



Training and practice. A light wont do you any good if you turn it on and you still cant hit your target. I would also hate to fire something in our house that would penetrate the walls and hurt someone out side of the house.
Our home is never really dark, so unless there is a power outage I can see well enough to defend us. Being only two of us I only have to know where one other person is.
My girlfriend hates guns, but she understands the need for one.

As for defense against an outside aggressor I would want something that is as equal or better than what they have if possible.
It only takes some research to find out how close the Japanese were to California. If something like that happened today, I believe it would end differently.
Cut the power and start some fires, **** the entire state could be shut down. My butt just puckered up writing that.
2.5 MAR 24, 08:18 AM
From the 2 min mark - Boulder Colorado incident

Possibly best point at 7:10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbUvCD7Zpg

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2.5 MAR 31, 03:24 PM
Politicians don't stop trying to remove your rights.

Disagree?

williegoat APR 07, 10:10 PM
Arizona governor signs bill to preempt federal gun laws

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Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey has signed legislation that aims to prohibit police and sheriffs from enforcing federal gun laws that violate the 2nd Amendment.



https://www.azleg.gov/legte...1R/bills/HB2111P.pdf

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Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:

Section 1. Title 1, chapter 2, article 4, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 1-272, to read:

1-272. Sovereign authority; right of the people to keep and bear arms

PURSUANT TO THE SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY OF THIS STATE AND ARTICLE II, SECTION 3, CONSTITUTION OF ARIZONA:

1. AN ACT, LAW, TREATY, ORDER, RULE OR REGULATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT VIOLATES AMENDMENT II OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES IS NULL, VOID AND UNENFORCEABLE IN THIS STATE.

2. THIS STATE AND ALL POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THIS STATE ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING ANY PERSONNEL OR FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO ENFORCE, ADMINISTER OR COOPERATE WITH ANY ACT, LAW, TREATY, ORDER, RULE OR REGULATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT VIOLATES AMENDMENT II OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.



Way to go, Doug!

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2.5 APR 08, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

article quote:

"1. AN ACT, LAW, TREATY, ORDER, RULE OR REGULATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT VIOLATES AMENDMENT II OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES IS NULL, VOID AND UNENFORCEABLE IN THIS STATE.

2. THIS STATE AND ALL POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS OF THIS STATE ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING ANY PERSONNEL OR FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO ENFORCE, ADMINISTER OR COOPERATE WITH ANY ACT, LAW, TREATY, ORDER, RULE OR REGULATION OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT THAT VIOLATES AMENDMENT II OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES."




THAT IS AWESOME!
Wonder if the Federal gov will someday figure out that it isn't allowed to break the fundamental rules either.
2.5 APR 09, 11:36 AM
HR 1207, The other over reaching bill that would reduce ammo availability, (even more) and discriminate.



This guy's tongue in cheek delivery is sometimes funny.

Also, I soooooooooooooo agree with what he says about working remote.

On the positive side, many new states allowing "constitutional carry".
Facts
olejoedad APR 09, 02:55 PM
From the comments section after an article on former vp bidens executive bloviation.....

"You libs will be happy to hear that my guns are liberal too!
- They stay in their safe space almost all of the time doing nothing.
- They only work after someone else feeds them.
- They are unable to clean or care for themselves.
- They make lots of noise and cause destruction.
- None have an IQ higher than 60.
- and they are easily triggered."

I thought it appropriate, an accurate comparison and funny.
maryjane APR 26, 12:46 PM
I tried without success to find an overly long video to explain this news article, but upon reflection, I realized none was needed.

https://www.foxnews.com/pol...y-handguns-in-public
rinselberg APR 26, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

From the comments section after an article on former vp bidens executive bloviation.....

"You libs will be happy to hear that my guns are liberal too!
- They stay in their safe space almost all of the time doing nothing.
- They only work after someone else feeds them.
- They are unable to clean or care for themselves.
- They make lots of noise and cause destruction.
- None have an IQ higher than 60.
- and they are easily triggered."

I thought it appropriate, an accurate comparison and funny.


I wasn't intending to "butt in" here, but I hope it does no harm if I say that I find that funny. About the guns being "liberal." I'm certainly "liberal" by almost any standard.

I say this because I just posted something else that I wanted to single out as funny, from a (generally) opposite or "liberal" perspective, in political terms. Not about guns. About some other thing that surfaced in the news media some days ago. That Topic is working its way down the Front Page. It's currently down in about the 7th slot from the "pole position" at the very top.

I hypothesize that there are people who are ambidextrous (so to speak) in this way--Left and Right--in terms of what strikes them as funny and their willingness and proclivity to admit to what strikes them as funny, and people who only find (or admit to finding) these kinds of jests and satirical "humors" as funny when the humor aligns with their own polarization between Left and Right.

Could I support that hypothesis with data?

You bet I could.

Anyway--"pardon the interruption."

Thinking about it again--I can't give an unqualified pass to that "none [of the guns] have an IQ higher than 60" part." At least, I need to single that out, out of an abundance of caution. That part is (or could be, depending on how it's wielded) a misfire or an ill-aimed shot.

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