Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 16/146)
randye FEB 05, 06:40 PM
By the way, IF the data of that JH map is even close to correct the 564 deaths compared to the 27,619 confirmed cases means that the mortality rate for this virus is 2%

That is FAR LOWER than SARS, MERS and Asian "bird flu".

Just to help to continue to keep perspective on this, the CDC reported that 80,000 people in the U.S. died of corona virus influenza in 2017*

https://www.statnews.com/20...s-flu-deaths-winter/

*Reminder: common influenza (flu), types A and B, are caused by Coronaviridae.

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randye FEB 05, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I think the red dot is in the center of each province rather than a specific city.



I think you're right. I missed that. Thanks for the correction.
maryjane FEB 05, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:


When you get past your little world.
And look past it,
you'll see why. people still live at home
rent is crazy, Cost to get to your job is nuts, car/insurance/etc
Every bills forced on them that they can't afford, like health insurance.
Here unless you want to live in a ghetto, it is 1200 for a studio / 1400 and up for a tiny 1 bed, 1800-2400 for a 2 bed.
Then you need f/l/s AND references from your last landlord, and pass a credit check.
Most younger folks don't have any credit . but have a high income to debt ratio (student loans) so the credit rating is in the crapper.
So, just to move out , you need 4500.00 for f/l/s references that you'll not have because you've never rented before, and a low credit rating. So no one will rent to you. other than maybe in DA HOOD (ghetto).
This is reality today.
Then they have nothing to put in the unit. and because they are on the botton rails of the career ladder, can't swing , the rent and all the other bills that go with that, the student loans, the car bills to get to their job.



That tho, is your own "little world".
The average US rent for a 1 bedroom apt is $1216, which means 1/2 the 1 bedroom apts rented for less and 1/2 rented for more. How much more (or less) depends upon in which geographical location one chooses to live. Hopefully, they are wise enough to live somewhere they can afford rent or mortage payments. If they aren't I suppose they will have to live on the street, get Govt subsidy, or live under Mommy & Daddy's roof the rest of their lives.

https://www.umovefree.com/C...eland-apartments-tx/
I and wife lived in the Kirbywood apts in 2007 and 2008. Rent at that time for a 1 bedroom apt was $525 plus electric and water. I was making $17/hr at a Kubota farm tractor dealership. There were a lot of college kids living there, working nights as wait staff in local eateries.

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maryjane FEB 05, 08:34 PM
Whether the death rate is less than or more than SARS or the seasonal flu (or anything else) is a bit moot. As Mark has pointed out, the effect on just the economy has been huge already simply because this one now exists.
However, if it is one of us, or one of our family members that gets it and dies, the issue ceases to be moot, just as it is not moot for those in the epicenter that already have it, or has a family member that has it.
There is always "something" less fatal than the new bug that crops up..doesn't lessen the concern or attention and discussion the new one warrants.

Related..I traveled about 20 miles today to get my 6 month cardio echos and carotid ultrasound. This was done in a new medical facility that is pretty busy. Other than the usual little box by the door with a sign that said "Please take a mask if you have cold or flu symptoms" I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
I saw no one wearing a mask the whole time I was there.

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maryjane FEB 06, 01:37 AM
One of the oddest things I've heard about this illness comes from a military website I'm on and there are quite a few expats that live in Hong Kong, the P.I. and Korea. A run up on supermarket goods in Hong Kong has resulted in a dire shortage of toilet paper.
Yep, they're out of TP in old Hong Kong.
MidEngineManiac FEB 06, 05:33 AM
Well, **** .
E.Furgal FEB 06, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
I pay more than minimum wage, can offer you full time work, and do not require a drug test for employment. Where can I send you an application?

I pay bi-weekly. I keep track of time, location, and work performed through an app in which you are required to download. All work is above board, unless performed on my home. Then chicken wings and other festivities will be provided at no cost to the employee.



Buddy you could never afford to pull me away from my job.
but what I listed are way is avail. for those starting out, no matter if just out of high school or college. here.
Trades require 4-5 years in the trade to hire, so they can't get jobs there, construction is 95% latinos, I'll be most of that illegals.
landscaping same thing.
CNC machinist, you need 4-5 years in, before those hiring will even talk to you, plumper, electrical. 2 years or more, to be the goffer.
Now if those on s.s. retirement were forced to pick either keep working or the s.s. check/bennies. There be tons of jobs for all these under employed folks.
But as long as the boomers can double dip. and collect their s.s. and keep working those jobs will only open up when either they become to sick to still work or die. I'm sure my generation will cause the same problem for the coming generations. like the boomers that should be retired and not in the job pool are today.
You can't move up the ladder when 2/3rd of those on ladder that should've retired are still filling those rungs.
Same yoyo's that claim the youth don't want to work getting dirt, refuse to train on the job. and want/require years in the trade/field before they'll ever look at your resume.
olejoedad FEB 06, 07:24 AM
Yeah, life is competitive.
The job market is competitive.

Is that a problem?
MidEngineManiac FEB 06, 07:30 AM
The problem there is the boomers who can't afford to retire anymore. That pension plus oas that looked good in the 90s and 2000s won't even cover property taxes and house insurance in the 2020s.

They want to, just can't.

A great deal of that has been caused by insane alimony -support -tax laws. There are tens of millions who spent most of their working lives filling someone else's pocket, and now there is one hell of a social problem.
MidEngineManiac FEB 06, 07:51 AM
Here is an interesting read on the statistics

https://www.zerohedge.com/h...ronavirus-statistics

Honestly, given the reports of 50 million quarantined, emergency hospital construction, instant cremation, forcibly home confining the quarantine areas, eat. The higher numbers make more sense to me.