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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 143/146) |
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Hudini
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DEC 13, 06:37 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I saw it the first time. No need for you to grasp even more. It won't bring them back nor alleviate any of the grief. |
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And no one ever said it would. My point is that blaming all those deaths on the virus alone is false. Did I misunderstand your posting of the death numbers?
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 18, 10:56 AM
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Just a fact, not looking for anything.
One of the first people I met after moving to California has been in the ICU for weeks.
They have asked the family to give consent to use her organs when she passes.
There will be no extra effort made to keep her alive. Not by choice, the family was told there were no options.
****ing hate this world and most of the people in it.
She is still hanging in there but her ventilator is on 80% and they are asking the family to make a decision.
She is my girlfriends best friend, my girlfriend is trying to be strong, for now...
The hardest part is there is nothing we can do, can't even visit.
I have never questioned if this is real or not, it is real. I hate those that have twisted it to push an agenda.
So much suffering.. I hope it was worth it.
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sourmash
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DEC 18, 12:33 PM
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| quote | [B]Originally posted by maryjane:
Fact. 305,082 dead Americans know only one thing, that it's better to be alive.
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False. You're stating an opinion, not fact. Facts are provable.
I'm positive those who have moved on are not concerned with lower topics in this Earth. This is not your ultimate goal.
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 12:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
And no one ever said it would. My point is that blaming all those deaths on the virus alone is false. Did I misunderstand your posting of the death numbers? |
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I keep seeing people alluding to 'gross over counting', but I NEVER see anyone post anything other than a relatively (very) low % of it actually happening.
A post that showed up just last week on a military forum made up mostly of people my own age that I normally thought to be relatively well informed and pretty intelligent, but I'm beginning to think they get their information from the same places MeM does.
Posted by Stephen 58:
The COVID deaths are being used,100%, for political purposes.
Posted in response, by Harry Mc:
Stephen, you are right on point. No one dies of anything else. Car accident deaths are down 100%.
My response in that thread:
100% decline in auto deaths (regardless of the total #) would mean there haven't been any auto deaths at all, which is preposterous.
https://www.caranddriver.co...-deaths-coronavirus/
In hard numbers, 2020 looks pretty good so far compared to 2019. The number of people who have died in motor vehicle traffic crashes was down from 16,988 in 2019 to 16,650 in 2020, a decrease of 2 percent.
Early NHTSA data for 2020 shows only a 3.3% decrease in the first 6 months of 2020.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press...0period%20in%202019.
NHTSA also released preliminary fatality estimates for the first half of 2020. The second quarter of 2020, during the height of the COVID-19 public health emergency, showed a continued decline in overall traffic fatalities. The FARS data indicate that an estimated 8,870 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes in the second quarter of 2020, a decrease of about 3.3% compared to the second quarter of 2019, which translates into 302 fewer fatalities as compared to the same period in 2019.
You will never find anywhere or anyone with more than a few brain cells in the head that will even attempt to prove otherwise and if they do attempt to do so, it will be with unsubstantiated rhetoric and hyperbole and not with facts or data.
It's almost as if well educated reasonable adults have suddenly opted for a partial lobotomy and now just believe anything anyone else reads and passes it around as if it were true.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 12-18-2020).]
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 12:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
False. You're stating an opinion, not fact. Facts are provable.
I'm positive those who have moved on are not concerned with lower topics in this Earth. This is not your ultimate goal. |
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False. You're stating an opinion, not fact. Facts are provable[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 12-18-2020).]
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sourmash
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DEC 18, 01:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
False. You're stating an opinion, not fact. Facts are provable
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False, you said it was fact, I didn't.
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 02:11 PM
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Semantics I suppose.
You didn't say you thought you were positive ..you stated you were/are positive.
Being 'positive' leaves no room for error.
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sourmash
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DEC 18, 03:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Semantics I suppose.
You didn't say you thought you were positive ..you stated you were/are positive.
Being 'positive' leaves no room for error. |
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Oh, I'm still positive. It's not at all semantics. Unless I believed my opinion was godly (small g).
Belief in an opinion cannot determine fact, whether a person wants to accept that or not.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 12-18-2020).]
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Patrick
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DEC 18, 04:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
False. You're stating an opinion, not fact. Facts are provable.
I'm positive those who have moved on are not concerned with lower topics in this Earth. This is not your ultimate goal.
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Oh, I'm still positive. It's not at all semantics. Unless I believed my opinion was godly (small g).
Belief in an opinion cannot determine fact, whether a person wants to accept that or not.
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So, in fact... your "I'm positive" comment (highlighted above) is nothing more than your personal conjecture. Sorry, but I'm more inclined to believe MJ's opinion (on anything) than yours.
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maryjane
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DEC 18, 04:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Oh, I'm still positive. It's not at all semantics. Unless I believed my opinion was godly (small g).
Belief in an opinion cannot determine fact, whether a person wants to accept that or not.
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Many thousands of juries and appeal court justices will disagree with that.
So will many who are wrongly incarcerated.
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