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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 139/146) |
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rinselberg
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JUN 09, 08:07 AM
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First, from the Washington Post
"Shutdowns prevented 60 million coronavirus infections in the U.S., study finds"
| quote | Shutdown orders prevented about 60 million novel coronavirus infections in the United States and 285 million in China, according to a research study published Monday that examined how stay-at-home orders and other restrictions limited the spread of the contagion.
A separate study from epidemiologists at Imperial College London estimated the shutdowns saved about 3.1 million lives in 11 European countries, including 500,000 in the United Kingdom, and dropped infection rates by an average of 82 percent, sufficient to drive the contagion well below epidemic levels.
The two reports, published simultaneously Monday in the journal Nature, used completely different methods to reach similar conclusions. They suggest that the aggressive and unprecedented shutdowns, which caused massive economic disruptions and job losses, were effective at halting the exponential spread of the novel coronavirus. |
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Joel Achenbach and Laura Meckler for the Washington Post; June 8, 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost....ions-us-study-finds/
Maybe you don't like the Washington Post. Maybe you don't like the University of California, either; especially, the Berkeley campus.
"Emergency COVID-19 measures prevented more than 500 million infections, study finds"
Edward Lempinen for UC Berkeley News; June 8, 2020.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2...ections-study-finds/
The first of the two reports described in the Washington Post has been accepted for publication in the professional science journal Nature. Odds are, you neither especially like or dislike "Nature."
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow interviewed one of the authors and researchers, This is YouTube video content. It's two brief video segments. You don't like Rachel Maddow, but you're usually a sucker for online video content, if it's brief.
https://youtu.be/1uxjmsyU2NE
https://youtu.be/xITuamBe3KU
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maryjane
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JUN 09, 09:01 AM
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Jake_Dragon
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JUN 09, 12:17 PM
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So protesters have been out in mass amounts of people.
This was yesterday.
Protesters in Los Angles.
Its been two weeks, I would have expected more of a turn out for the Corona.
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longjonsilver
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JUN 15, 06:26 AM
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https://fee.org/articles/np...-experts-fail-again/ ------------------
Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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longjonsilver
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JUN 15, 08:28 AM
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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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maryjane
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NOV 16, 07:25 AM
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Brought this back for one reason. Somewhere in these pages (I can't find it easily) IMSA GT said he was pretty sure he had Covid back in Dec 2019. I had doubts about it, but this news may prove me in error.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/1...ght-study-shows.html
| quote | The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy since September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that Covid-19 might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.
The World Health Organization has said the new coronavirus and Covid-19, the respiratory disease it causes, were unknown before the outbreak was first reported in Wuhan, in central China, in December.
Italy’s first Covid-19 patient was detected on Feb. 21 in a little town near Milan, in the northern region of Lombardy.
But the Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show that 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020, had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.
A further specific SARS-CoV-2 antibodies test was carried out by the University of Siena for the same research titled “Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the pre-pandemic period in Italy”.
It showed that four cases dated back to the first week of October were also positive for antibodies neutralizing the virus, meaning they had got infected in September, Giovanni Apolone, a co-author of the study, told Reuters.
“This is the main finding: people with no symptoms not only were positive after the serological tests but had also antibodies able to kill the virus,” Apolone said.
“It means that the new coronavirus can circulate among the population for long and with a low rate of lethality not because it is disappearing but only to surge again,” he added.
Italian researchers told Reuters in March that they reported a higher than usual number of cases of severe pneumonia and flu in Lombardy in the last quarter of 2019 in a sign that the new coronavirus might have circulated earlier than previously thought.
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[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 11-16-2020).]
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MidEngineManiac
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NOV 16, 10:28 AM
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I suspect the 2019 vaping lung disease outbreak was actually covid virus, the timing is right and nobody ever bothered explaining why after years of those things being around the disease suddenly popped up out of nowhere.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/...ing-illness-symptoms
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maryjane
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NOV 16, 07:53 PM
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Except there has never been a virus directly associated with EVALI and the 2 illnesses are completely different in that one (EVALI) is damage caused by an injury (tho may increase the ability of the other (Covid) to spread), but results in no specific antibodies or other imuneresponse like Covid does because EVALI is chemical in nature and not viral, bacterial, or animal.
Correlation of a timeline does not equal causation.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 11-16-2020).]
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USFiero
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NOV 17, 06:11 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tony Kania:
100,000 to 200,000 Americans are projected to die from this virus.
Patrick, Donald, and Ronald have things under control at their end. Let them speak. Never silence those that know so much. Like teachers they are. We need them, so be kind.
Sorry that the lot of you are butt hurt about this President. My feelings are not affected by yours. Carry on though.
Stay safe. Family, Friends, neighbors...
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TK's post was from March, and basically those numbers are about where we are... I have an issue with the specifics of classifying COVID deaths since co-morbities aren't considered key in the public perception.
Actual COVID death is very small and unremarkable.
I say this as someone who is recovering from it this week... and masks did not stop it for me.[This message has been edited by USFiero (edited 11-17-2020).]
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 08, 03:25 PM
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http://publichealth.lacount...detail.cfm?prid=2843
| quote | The following sectors are required to close or remain closed for all operations:
Indoor and outdoor playgrounds
Indoor recreational facilities
Hair salons and barbershops
Personal care services
Museums, zoos, and aquariums
Movie theaters
Wineries
Bars, breweries, and distilleries
Family entertainment centers
Cardrooms and satellite wagering
Limited services as defined by the state
Live audience sports
Amusement parks
The following sectors will have additional modifications in addition to 100% masking and physical distancing:
Outdoor recreational facilities: Allow outdoor operation only without any food, drink or alcohol sales. Additionally, overnight stays for recreational visits at campgrounds will not be permitted.
Retail: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
Shopping centers: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores and all common areas closed. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
Hotels and lodging: Allow to open for critical infrastructure support only.
Restaurants: Allow only for take-out, pick-up, or delivery.
Offices: Allow remote only except for critical infrastructure sectors where remote working is not possible.
Places of worship and political expression: Allow outdoor services only.
Entertainment production including professional sports: Allow operation without live audiences. Additionally, testing protocol and “bubbles” are highly encouraged. |
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Here we go again.
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