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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 130/146) |
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blackrams
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APR 14, 06:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I find most of that very hard to believe, considering for how long, and how many times and how emphatically it has been stated over and over by just about anyone with any medical credentials that the regular masks DO NOT protect the wearer from coronavirus. I know of no one that thinks they do.
'Fear' of GETTING it has nothing whatsoever with wearing a mask.
[QUOTE]The main benefit of wearing masks in public isn’t to protect you from getting sick. Rather, it’s to protect others from yourself if you’re sick or you’re an asymptomatic carrier. “This is more for people who might be infected and don’t know it, and to try and lower the likelihood that they will spread this to somebody else,” CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said. The CDC agreed.
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Wearing of a mask was only one of the guidelines, staying home and social distancing plus good hygiene and other precautions but, see it (the motivation) as you wish.
The country as a whole and many of our elected leaders didn't move on these guidelines until folks started dropping dead. I guess we'll just have different perspectives on what the motivation was to actually get the nation and specifically the "hot" zones to comply and follow those guidelines.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 04-14-2020).]
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 14, 07:24 AM
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Here is the motivation for all of it. Allowing the hot zones to develop in the first place, the global knockdown, I suspect even the release of the virus in the first place.
https://mobile.abc.net.au/n...12148210?pfmredir=sm
Google and apple have been tracking via phone for years. Now the governments have a carrot and stick way to do it. You can move so long as we track everything.
NWO agenda 21 in action and right in your face. They even got the year. 21 by the time it's fully implemented.
Freedom is a thing of the past.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 04-14-2020).]
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Rickady88GT
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APR 14, 07:36 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Wearing of a mask was only one of the guidelines, staying home and social distancing plus good hygiene and other precautions but, see it (the motivation) as you wish.
The country as a whole and many of our elected leaders didn't move on these guidelines until folks started dropping dead. I guess we'll just have different perspectives on what the motivation was to actually get the nation and specifically the "hot" zones to comply and follow those guidelines.
Rams
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The motivation to get people to comply is one thing but to keep them in compliance is another. I see this falling apart already. I have never seen any data or statistics on exactly who is dying of covid. I hear that older people and preexisting conditions are at risk? I do not doubt this, but I predict that the prevailing thought will be to recommend locking those people down and the rest go back to normal. Is this mentality right or wrong? Or is the "medicine" poison that in the end will hurt America worse that the covid?
Convincing America to lock down will be easier than convincing them to stay down. The more freedom that is stripped away, the sooner this lock down will end.
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blackrams
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APR 14, 08:22 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Convincing America to lock down will be easier than convincing them to stay down. The more freedom that is stripped away, the sooner this lock down will end. |
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On this, we are in full agreement. Of course, when guidelines are relaxed and more hot spots develop due to not eliminating the virus, more deaths will result and the cycle will start all over. Fear (or common sense) will again rise it's ugly head.
Rams
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APR 14, 08:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
The motivation to get people to comply is one thing but to keep them in compliance is another. I see this falling apart already. .... |
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I think some of that is the talk that is scattered around as if we are mostly over this already. Some people hear that and just react. A lot of people don't think for themselves.
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maryjane
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APR 14, 01:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Wearing of a mask was only one of the guidelines, staying home and social distancing plus good hygiene and other precautions but, see it (the motivation) as you wish.
The country as a whole and many of our elected leaders didn't move on these guidelines until folks started dropping dead. I guess we'll just have different perspectives on what the motivation was to actually get the nation and specifically the "hot" zones to comply and follow those guidelines.
Rams
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Sounds as if you have moved from Ky down to Miss and have contracted the redneck conspiracy theory illness.
La and Ark are once again saying "Thank gawd for Mississippi".
Here is what you just typed and submitted, stated in another way.
The leaders didn't issue mask guidelines, with the medical community concurring until they realized that even more could be done than social distancing , and The People didn't start start wearing masks until the spokesmen said yes, it will help.
If it were just as simplistic a matter as watching "people dropping dead", then the mask thing would have been officially condoned/recommended back in Feb when so many were dying in Washington State.
The factual part is the medical gurus didn't recommend it early because there were no masks to be had (bought) early on (reserved for nurses and doctors) and those at the top of state and federal agencies (rich people in govt) probably don't have wives that sew.
But you and MeM can glean whatever conspiracy theory you wish from it.
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Jake_Dragon
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APR 14, 02:10 PM
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Work from home: I was already working part time from home. Going in to the office in the morning then finishing the day from home. It was pretty easy to transition to working from home. I didn't need anyone to tell me and after making arrangements with my manager I started working from home 2 weeks before it was a suggestion.
Masks: We have 5 professional masks and Lisa is working on making us some masks now
Food: We have been doing well having food delivered, its hit or miss but its kept us from going outside.
The hardest part is staying active. I have been having a hard time going to sleep at night.
Lisa is having a harder time than I am and is constantly reading and watching video. I don't trust any of it and depending on the organization it will always slant one way or the other.
Bottom line, do the best you can. If you don't need to go out then don't.
But if you need the government to tell you to stay inside because of a contagion that you could have an not know it for up to two weeks. Then my friends you are the problem.
This isn't a cold that you can shake off, its not the same.
So you can protest, complain because your favorite "insert what you are bitching about being closed here" being closed. Keep going out and spreading the infection and you will find they are going to be closed a lot longer.
When it does get to the point that the Federal Government has to step in because common sense and local Government failed, remember that this could have been avoided.
India is locked down, no one goes out and food is being delivered. Bet there are some delicious selections. /sarcasm
They just extended it another two weeks. The
Now for those that are wondering, I did receive my new battery charger.
Schumacher SC1281 6/12V Fully Automatic Battery Charger and 30/100A Engine Starter with Advanced Diagnostic Testing
It charged my battery in 4 hours. Has a lot of features and never once got hot like the old buzz box I had.
Cost me under $90 to ship to my door.
I did take something to help me sleep so later I will make the journey to the garage and the take on the task of mowing the front yard.
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 14, 04:39 PM
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Tony Kania
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APR 14, 05:15 PM
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I believed very much in the beginning that this was a viral game changer. Only the governments have changed the game. The death rate, in which I very early on believed will be high, is nothing like projected. Happy to be wrong.
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Hudini
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APR 14, 07:06 PM
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If you do the math it's around 4%. And that is all people dying who either tested positive or is suspected of having the virus no matter any underlying conditions. They may have had the regular flu or pneumonia from another source but everything is grouped under virus deaths at this point.
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