Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 126/146)
cliffw APR 09, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
'It's not fancy, but it works': Mississippi doctor uses garden hose, lamp timer and electronic valve to create makeshift ventilators



Remember that breast pump your Mother used to feed you ?



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Originally posted by Rsvl-Rider:
Assuming he was a Chinavirus victim, if he was not tested and was not admitted, he is not counted among those infected or those that died. This is one of the reasons the official numbers can be misleading.



Another reason is there is no national standard for classifying a Covid19 case. I hear in some places that anything to do with Covid19 is reported as a Covid19 death. Just as some report an 80 year old and some celebrities died from "X" when it likely was old age or substance abuse.

Sorry Raydar. If you don't mind my asking, why did he not go to a hospital in another town ? I have heard of our hospital as full or near full.
We are a smaller community, 20,000, but testing kits seem o be readily available. Two persons in my domicile got testing in one day, results the second.
Raydar APR 09, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

Sorry Raydar. If you don't mind my asking, why did he not go to a hospital in another town ?



Difficult to say. I don't know where in NY he was. Perhaps he was actually too sick to go any distance, by the time it was realized that he was that sick.
Doesn't make a lot of sense, but when you're freaking out, you don't always do the smartest thing. <shrug>
cliffw APR 09, 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by cliffw:
... why did he not go to a hospital in another town ? I have NOT heard of our hospital as full or near full.
Hudini APR 10, 09:22 AM
cliffw APR 10, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Raydar:
Difficult to say. I don't know where in NY he was.



Though I have been avoiding the news, I have heard that the Javitz Center was not needed in NYC, nor the US Navy's Comfort hospital ship. It seems as if they over estimated the number of ventilators they needed also.
williegoat APR 10, 01:51 PM
Are we at the hump? Are we flattening the curve?
maryjane APR 10, 02:11 PM
Perhaps so Willie. I do hope so. The initial projections were based on people going about life as usual, and not on most of America adhering to sound and basic anti-infection/anti-transmission protocols.

We may see another spike in the next day or so, as NYC announced yesterday they will today begin including those who died at home of suspected Covid19.

Yesterday Apr 9 data:
USA Total=468,566 cases. New cases=33,536+. Total deaths=16,690. New Deaths=1,899. New York's New Deaths=799
So far today, Apr 10 with the daily reporting period about 1/2 over:
USA Total=489,268 cases. New cases=20,702+. Total Deaths=18,015. New deaths= 1,325. New York's new Deaths= 777

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olejoedad APR 10, 02:57 PM
We count COVID-19 deaths if one dies and has tested positive for the virus, no matter how severe the underlying conditions may be. Other countries do not follow this reporting protocol.

Our death count is skewed compared to other countries, making world-wide statistical analysis difficult, if not impossible.

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2.5 APR 10, 03:48 PM
So what about the rest of the US?
New York isn't going to be on the same timeline as say Cleveland, or Albuquerque.
Sometimes watching the news its like Hollywood movie stuff, for example, where only New York City and LA matter.

The overrunning of hospitals isn't happening in many places. Some counties in the US likely have no cases. (then theres cases that never get tested too)

I'm here in MN thinking, we wont be peaking for probably at least over a month after NY does.

Not to mention when people are back out on the loose, do they expect it to be gone, or start spreading again?

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Hudini APR 10, 07:39 PM
Flattening the curve only means pushing the cases out over a longer timeline. It does not mean less cases. I believe the intent was only to not overwhelm the need for ventilators or beds. The only good news is that most people won't suffer the worst effects. However, it still feels like playing the roulette wheel.