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blackrams APR 08, 11:44 AM
'It's not fancy, but it works': Mississippi doctor uses garden hose, lamp timer and electronic valve to create makeshift ventilators

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...hDwb?ocid=spartandhp

JACKSON, Miss. — As states across the country beg for ventilators to help patients suffering with respiratory issues from COVID-19, the University of Mississippi Medical Center is building its own makeshift ventilators with supplies found at a hardware store.

Dr. Charles Robertson, a UMMC pediatric anesthesiologist and the mastermind behind the idea, said he set out to make the "absolute simplest ventilator we can build with parts available in any city, you don't need special tools to put together and can be done quickly as the need arises."
Made with "primarily a garden hose, a lamp timer and electronic valve," the ventilator, named the Robertson Ventilator, for less than $100, can be assembled in approximately 20 to 30 minutes, meaning a dedicated team of four to five could produce nearly 100 in a day if needed, he said.
Demonstrating the functionality of the machine at a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Robertson turned on a ventilator hooked up to a mannequin. The mannequin's chest began to rise and fall.

The Robertson Ventilator: 'The brain behind the thing is actually a lamp timer'

While in-demand ventilators may go to states that are the highest bidder, Robertson noted the parts he gathered are from Home Depot and Lowe's.

"No one has been competing with me for those," he said.
As of Tuesday, UMMC staff had assembled 170 of the ventilators, Robertson said, doubling the hospital's capacity. They have parts to make 75 more.
Given the supplies involved and their wide availability, UMMC has "the ability to quickly manufacture any more if we need them," he said.
Dr. Richard Summers, associate vice chancellor for research for UMMC, addressed the shortage of conventional ventilators, saying, "as a contingency plan, we were looking for our state to be independent."

"The brain behind the thing is actually a lamp timer," he said. "It's not fancy but it works. This would be available as a last resort if the numbers increase as we think they might."

University of Mississippi Medical Center seeks FDA emergency authorization
The Robertson Ventilators have been tested and proven to be successful on both laboratory animals at UMMC and in simulation, Summers said, and "performed well, even in conditions that we would expect with COVID lung."
The hospital has applied for an Emergency Use Authorization from the Food and Drug Administration for the Robertson Ventilators, in the event the conventional ventilators are already in use.

Dr. Alan Jones, chair of emergency medicine, said UMMC currently has 80 to 90 conventional ventilators. As of Tuesday, almost 20 patients with COVID-19 and another 20 to 30 non-COVID patients are are on those ventilators.
"I do feel as though we are positioned ... that if we got to the point of needing this it's going to be a dire situation," he said.
Roberston said that if hospitals have the option, a commercially available ventilator should be used first, "but with a patient whose likely to die soon, this could be lifesaving."
"The role of this ventilator is if there's nothing else available," he said. "This is something that can be made quickly.
"The problems with the worst-case scenario is it will only come on very rapidly and apparent within a day or two that it's going to happen. We can build as many of these as patients to use them."

Whoever said "Sliced Bread" was the best idea to come along wasn't feeling a real need...…… I love it when a plan comes together...

Rams
Tony Kania APR 08, 11:58 AM
Trained professionals need to operate a true ventilator. As people are "inventing" ventilators, there are thousands of actual machines sitting in wait. Actual tried and industry standard machines just sitting waiting to be used. Nobody in America is without access to a ventilator if needed. There are no ventilator waiting lists.

To be honest with you all, there are little to no patients at Sacred Heart Providence Medical Hospital. This is the hospital in Washington that first took in Chinavirus patients. Nursing staff is currently at TWO NURSES PER PATIENT. Nurses and Dr.s are questioning this pandemic. Again, those in charge of one of five Covid-19 response hospitals are twittleing their thumbs. Just something to ponder while we sit at home on lock down.
2.5 APR 08, 12:01 PM
700+ apparently died in NY yesterday. I was wondering if these were folks on respirators, or folks that didn't go the hospital or?
I know its slow many places because it hasn't spread that far, yet.

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maryjane APR 08, 12:03 PM
GM has a 500 million dollar contract to build 30,00 ventilators. My math says that is right at $16,000 each.
Raydar APR 08, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:

700+ apparently died in NY yesterday. I was wondering if these were folks on respirators, or folks that didn't go the hospital or?
I know its slow many places because it hasn't spread that far, yet.




My brother-in-law has friends in New York.
A relative of one of his friends got sick, and then got sicker. The hospital told him "Do not come here. We don't have room. We can't help you."
He's no longer with us.

So yeah...
Tony Kania APR 08, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:


My brother-in-law has friends in New York.
A relative of one of his friends got sick, and then got sicker. The hospital told him "Do not come here. We don't have room. We can't help you."
He's no longer with us.

So yeah...




So sorry.

As Americans, we need to work together better on the logistics of this. I believe there are packed hospitals. But, one of 5 infectious disease wards granted in the United States is not busy at the moment. I am not stirring shat, only speaking verifiable truths.

Still use precautions. This is happening.
rinselberg APR 08, 02:17 PM
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2.5 APR 08, 03:50 PM

quote
Originally posted by Raydar:


My brother-in-law has friends in New York.
A relative of one of his friends got sick, and then got sicker. The hospital told him "Do not come here. We don't have room. We can't help you."
He's no longer with us.

So yeah...



Not good.
Rsvl-Rider APR 08, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:


My brother-in-law has friends in New York.
A relative of one of his friends got sick, and then got sicker. The hospital told him "Do not come here. We don't have room. We can't help you."
He's no longer with us.

So yeah...



That is a very sad story.

Assuming he was a Chinavirus victim, if he was not tested and was not admitted, he is not counted among those infected or those that died. This is one of the reasons the official numbers can be misleading.

How many Wuhan Chinese died in their homes while under lock-down? We may never know, but you can bet they will never be counted in the official numbers.

maryjane APR 08, 11:15 PM
DoD released covid-19 data:
US Military 3,160 presumed cases 8 deaths 2,928 active cases 0 lab test results
(Presumed means diagnosis by symptoms)

Total military strength currently (active and reserves) is 2.26 million. 139 cases per 100,000 troops if my math is correct which is just slightly above what the data says about the rest of the US population...