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| What is everyone's thoughts on the "vaccine" mandate? (Page 12/18) |
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 10:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
ANOTHER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN WORDS...
...simply to say what any normal person would say in just TWO WORDS:
"I disagree" |
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I disagree with this on several levels. I think that anyone who is looking on here and has the time to scroll backwards to my 257-word message and review it (if they have not already) will find it a positive experience. Small, but positive.That would be the 257-word message that started with me singling out just one sentence from Fats and taking issue with that, but appreciating the entire remainder of what he said in a positive way.
My 257-word message Read-o-Meters to all of 74 seconds of reading time, for an average reader, to read it attentively from beginning to end, and this link will scroll directly to it:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...L/127051-3.html#p101
"Always with the Negative Waves, Moriarty . . ."
[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2021).]
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randye
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NOV 23, 10:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ls3mach:
A comedian summed it up properly for me. I don't want the free one. I want the one that's like $3000. The one you're giving to Beyonce.
He is right though. History repeats. Why is this one "free"? Why such a push? I'm not educated enough either way. I'm young and healthy. Had it twice. I think I can wait. |
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You never seem to see any gourmet magazines raving about how magnificent free government cheese is.
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randye
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NOV 23, 11:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
My 257-word message......
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“Fools talk too much, and what they do say is usually just noise or irrelevant gibberish designed to keep themselves entertained”
― Stuart Wilde[This message has been edited by randye (edited 11-23-2021).]
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2.5
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NOV 24, 09:30 AM
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More damands via the OSHA link:
"1910.501(f)
Employer support for employee vaccination. The employer must support COVID-19 vaccination as described in this paragraph.
1910.501(d)(1)
The employer must establish, implement, and enforce a written mandatory vaccination policy.
1910.501(e)(1)
The employer must determine the vaccination status of each employee. This determination must include whether the employee is fully vaccinated.
1910.501(e)(2)
The employer must require each vaccinated employee to provide acceptable proof of vaccination status, including whether they are fully or partially vaccinated. Acceptable proof of vaccination status is:
1910.501(j)(4)
The prohibitions of 18 U.S.C. 1001 and of section 17(g) of the OSH Act, which provide for criminal penalties associated with knowingly supplying false statements or documentation."
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I wondered why there is less than a sentence on each numbered section, apparently this is why:
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"Each section of this subpart U, and each provision within those sections, is separate and severable from the other sections and provisions. If any provision of this subpart is held to be invalid or unenforceable on its face, or as applied to any person, entity, or circumstance, or is stayed or enjoined, that provision shall be construed so as to continue to give the maximum effect to the provision permitted by law, unless such holding shall be one of utter invalidity or unenforceability, in which event the provision shall be severable from this subpart and shall not affect the remainder of the subpart."[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 11-24-2021).]
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steve308
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NOV 24, 10:00 AM
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I just wonder how many lawsuit will be filed by 'anti vaccine' employees families against the employer for not protecting thier loved should they die from covid contracted on the job if the employer choses to not enforce the mandate? You know the excuse.... no one told us, what's covid etc.... Let's face it, it's the American way.
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Hudini
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NOV 24, 04:31 PM
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One day, after the Lawyer Inquisition, we will have no more lawyers. Until then we will suffer more and more from the courts actually making the laws via lawsuit.
-Remember the Star Trek - Next Generation episode where Q is trying Picard for humanities' crimes? There was some line about the Lawyer Wars or something to that affect where all the lawyers were "deleted". There are many who believe the crazy lawsuit payouts have gone too far and lawyers are to blame. IDK-
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Jake_Dragon
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NOV 24, 05:53 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by steve308:
I just wonder how many lawsuit will be filed by 'anti vaccine' employees families against the employer for not protecting thier loved should they die from covid contracted on the job if the employer choses to not enforce the mandate? You know the excuse.... no one told us, what's covid etc.... Let's face it, it's the American way. |
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The dick head that killed your grandmother lives in China. Start there.
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gtjoe
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NOV 24, 07:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by steve308:
I just wonder how many lawsuit will be filed by 'anti vaccine' employees families against the employer for not protecting thier loved should they die from covid contracted on the job if the employer choses to not enforce the mandate? You know the excuse.... no one told us, what's covid etc.... Let's face it, it's the American way. |
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most employers have never made anyone take a flu shot, stop smoking, lose weight, not go hunting with dick cheney. All of these are things that could get you killed, and ive never heard of a employer being sued for not protecting their employees from these things even though most of them (excepting for the dick cheney one) have killed way more people over time than covid. Of course if this works out for them who knows..........
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randye
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NOV 24, 08:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
One day, after the Lawyer Inquisition, we will have no more lawyers. Until then we will suffer more and more from the courts actually making the laws via lawsuit.
-Remember the Star Trek - Next Generation episode where Q is trying Picard for humanities' crimes? There was some line about the Lawyer Wars or something to that affect where all the lawyers were "deleted". There are many who believe the crazy lawsuit payouts have gone too far and lawyers are to blame. IDK-
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With few exceptions, every one of those "crazy lawsuit payout" verdicts were delivered by a jury.
Anyone who is damaged wants their legal counsel to, at a minimum, get the offending party make them "whole" again and get proper restitution.
Beyond that, punitive damages, (meant to punish a defendant and dissuade them and others from repeating the same or similar behavior in the future) are also the result of jury verdicts.
If you want to lay blame, place it at the feet of juries who grant those "crazy lawsuit payouts"[This message has been edited by randye (edited 11-25-2021).]
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steve308
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NOV 24, 09:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
The dick head that killed your grandmother lives in China. Start there. |
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WTF ???????????? Where did that come from?
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