Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 104/146)
Patrick MAR 27, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Just being honest, I think your frog/toad is ugly.



Just for that, you get to see the original image... shot in August of 2006 out in the middle of nowhere. Good times.

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blackrams MAR 27, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Just for that, you get to see the original image... shot in August of 2006 out in the middle of nowhere. Good times.






That pic definitely didn't help my opinion improve.

Rams
Patrick MAR 27, 11:40 PM

Aw, come on... look at those cute little fingers... or toes... or whatever the heck they are.
randye MAR 27, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Related..
I don't know how this is going to work out, but here tis...
(note, this one is to use on non-critical patients so the bigger better and existing ones will be freed up for the more critical patients)

https://news.rice.edu/2020/...tric-technologies-2/




There actually is a low tech, low cost, way to ventilate patients. We call it a "Blue Bag"

In reality it isn't a bag now but more of a small blue urethane flexible "football"



Apart from the endotracheal tube, they cost anywhere from $15 to $30 each.

The face mask can be detached from the "blue bag" and the bag cam be connected to an endotracheal tube.

The problem is somebody has to manually squeeze the bag at the proper force and at the proper intervals. It takes a lot less training than intubating a patient but it does work if you have somebody to squeeze it..... for a week or so....

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Patrick MAR 27, 11:50 PM

Amid a critical shortage, pandemic ventilator inventor makes his design open source


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Strupat said while his $500 design may not offer the same standard of care as the current $25,000 designs used at hospitals, his machine would save lives, even in a blackout.

"It will run three to four hours before the batteries die," he said. "If I had my choice, I'd rather be on that than nothing if it came down to it."
maryjane MAR 28, 12:20 AM
Randye said
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The problem is somebody has to manually squeeze the bag at the proper force and at the proper intervals. It takes a lot less training than intubating a patient but it does work if you have somebody to squeeze it..... for a week or so....


Yep, the Rice U article said the same thing in 2nd paragraph.. your hand would get awful tired pretty quickly I suspect.


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That now-alumni team of Madison Nasteff, Carolina De Santiago, Aravind Sundaramraj, Natalie Dickman, Tim Nonet and Karen Vasquez Ruiz, calling themselves Take a Breather, designed and built a programmable device able to squeeze a bag valve mask. These masks are typically carried by emergency medical personnel to help get air into the lungs of people having difficulty breathing on their own. But the masks are difficult to squeeze by hand for more than a few minutes at a time.
maryjane MAR 28, 02:14 AM
New York snapshot......... But, note this chart was valid only as of 4 days ago....Mar 24.



https://www.businessinsider...-by-age-chart-2020-3

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Hudini MAR 28, 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Amid a critical shortage, pandemic ventilator inventor makes his design open source





""How scary is that? Most of those come from the U.S. because they look at healthcare a little differently than us."

I have to ask, how is healthcare viewed in Canada? What is different?
Patrick MAR 28, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

"How scary is that? Most of those come from the U.S. because they look at healthcare a little differently than us."

I have to ask, how is healthcare viewed in Canada? What is different?



That quote makes a little more sense if the two preceding paragraphs are included for context. However, I admit to being a bit confused myself by that particular comment. I guess what was meant was that the Canadian public generally wouldn't consider the option of supplying their own ventilator if hospitalized. I don't know what the common feeling would be down there in this regard, but as stated in the article, it was mostly Americans (over 65 who would not be allowed to be ventilated) who were asking for more information.


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Canadian Medical Association President Dr. Sandy Buchman has already told the nation's doctors to prepare for the possibility that, if Canada found itself in as dire a situation as Italy, many people over 65 would not be allowed to be ventilated.

Dozens of people who fall into that category also have written to Strupat, asking whether they can have his design to build their own ventilator, or in some cases buy his prototype outright so they can bring it to hospital in case they get infected.

"How scary is that? Most of those (asking for information) come from the U.S. because they look at healthcare a little differently than us."


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blackrams MAR 28, 06:52 AM
This is how I see these folks.

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