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MikesFirstFiero
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DEC 09, 01:37 AM
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Will
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DEC 09, 09:20 AM
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Great to hear that was the whole problem! Weird that it would cause those symptoms, though.
With dual variable cam phasing in the engine, I bet you can tune the cam timing to give you much better power at 7100
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MikesFirstFiero
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DEC 09, 11:25 AM
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I was surprised that back pressure was the cause but since they optimize the valve timing I'm guessing it caused some of the high temperature gas to not exit the cylinder so the next intake charge ignited prematurely. From what I read there are lots of tuning items that could be done to bump the power up significntly.
But for now I need to figure out how it behaves in stock configuration. And that will wait until Spring with ice on the roads. And the stock power bump is sooo much better than I imagined, I'm happy. The old 2.8 was a troublesome slug and the 3-speed auto was awful; they made the car unpleasant to drive, now I smile a lot. I used to think my 1990 T-Bird SC was quick until I dropped the LFX in this Fiero.[This message has been edited by MikesFirstFiero (edited 01-10-2022).]
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MikesFirstFiero
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JAN 10, 08:40 PM
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Skybax
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JAN 10, 08:53 PM
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Dennis LaGrua
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JAN 11, 10:57 AM
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This is one of the most amazing swaps that we have ever seen. There are steps that could be taken to make this engine run stand alone with an aftermarket ECU and a trans controller but got to give you credit for swapping the entire system into your Fiero. I'd be interested in what the 1/4 mile E.T. would be. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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MikesFirstFiero
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JAN 11, 03:54 PM
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Thanks Dennis, I had high hopes of getting most of the new tech features to work but that will require quite a bit more work. I'd like ABS but finding front hubs that would fit and has sensors would require research. I will probably get the keyless entry to work later. I agree that the standalone method would be simpler to do, cost more $$, be more adjustable and probably take a fair amount of time to sort out (or pay someone to figure it all out).
I can't wait to give some real numbers for 0-60 and the quarter mile. I've ordered three new coil packs to try to solve the misfire, going try each side and narrow down from there. At $22 each it's a cheap gamble that is easy to do. Plus up here the roads are still icy and wet. Drove our Venza from CDA to Missoula Mt yesterday and the mountain passes were like skating rinks. No performance data until March at the earliest. I'm going to get the hood vent installed for now since my garage is warm. Archie said over 90 MPH the headlight covers would start to rise without it. That didn't sound good to me plus it should help the cooling in the summer too.
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Dennis LaGrua
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JAN 11, 08:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MikesFirstFiero:
I've ordered three new coil packs to try to solve the misfire, going try each side and narrow down from there. At $22 each it's a cheap gamble that is easy to do. |
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I just fixed a bad miss on my 3800SC and fixed the exact same problem on another car. The mounting plate for the ignition module developed some corrosion where the module mounted. Took the coil pack apart, cleaned the mounting plate w a fine wire brush, wiped with solvent, applied a surface coating of conductive thermal grease, put everything back together and ran a new ground wire to the plate. Problem fixed on both cars without replacing any parts. It was apparently a bad ground to the module. Also watch out for those budget coil packs on ebay. Check both the primary and secondary resistances to find if they are equal to OEM and weigh them. We've seen coil packs that weigh 25% less than OEM that run like crap. Lower weight = less copper windings.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE " [This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 01-11-2022).]
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MikesFirstFiero
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JAN 11, 09:08 PM
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This engine has a coil per plug and I buy most parts from Rock Auto. I don't trust most eBay stuff unless it is a known brand. If you engine has a distributor mounted module then moving it to an external heat sink could make it last longer. The one on the 2.8 fails often since the disty shaft conducts heat from the block and gets up to 150F plus the module itself generates heat. When I remote mounted mine the module temp on a good heat sink dropped to about 115-120F. If you were to buy an off brand there is no guarantee that the semiconductors are really rated for use under high temperatures.
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Will
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JAN 11, 09:32 PM
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Dennis was talking about grounding, not semiconductor failure.
The coil packs NEED to be grounded, or else they just won't run right.
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