LFX 3.6/F23 option (Page 2/13)
mender FEB 25, 12:26 AM
Okay, so I'm blind.

Getting there: apparently the images are too large, how do I reduce them?

While I'm waiting: I used a 2010 Acadia? engine with a broken rod for mock-up purposes and a Camaro 3800 iron flywheel redrilled to the proper bolt pattern to check starter engagement and such. I machined some material off the crank side of the flywheel, will have to look up the numbers for that, plus opened up the hub id to fit the LFX crank. I just got my clutch and pressure plate (basically the same dimensions as the stock Fiero) but haven't bolted things together to measure finger height yet, so I don't know if/how much material needs to be machined off the Camaro flywheel to work with the F23 slave cylinder. I don't know if that's already been researched; if so, chime in with the results.

Does anyone know how close the HF and Ecotec bolt patterns are? I see the Ecotec F23s laying around on the ground at the pick n pull places and if they can fit as well, that really opens up the cheap transaxle option.

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wftb FEB 25, 06:25 AM
I think pics of everything are on this thread http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/087296.html
I use photoscape (free download ) to reduce my pics .Use the editor and click the resize button .
dobey FEB 25, 08:27 AM
Ecotec:
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HFV6:
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Metric (60v60) and Q4:
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As you can see, they are all different. I'd definitely like to see how much hacking up of the Q4 bell housing you had to do, in order to mate it to the HFV6 though.
Gall757 FEB 25, 09:24 AM
Microsoft Paint will re-size your pictures. Make them about 850 pixels wide.
mender FEB 25, 11:02 PM
Overhead view of the F23 bolted to the LLT engine (ignore the bad focus and the Northstar)

Closer in to show the minor trimming by the thermostat housing

Starter nose clearancing

With starter

From inside the bellhousing; I removed more than I had to, next time will be better

With thermostat housing installed

Left underside showing the extra tabs and oil pan bolt holes

Right side of same

Camaro 3800 flywheel, redrilled and hub id machined to fit crank

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mender FEB 25, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Gall757:

Microsoft Paint will re-size your pictures. Make them about 850 pixels wide.


Thanks, that worked!
mender FEB 26, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by dobey:

Ecotec:
CLICK FOR FULL SIZE


HFV6:
CLICK FOR FULL SIZE

As you can see, they are all different. I'd definitely like to see how much hacking up of the Q4 bell housing you had to do, in order to mate it to the HFV6 though.


Looks like the Quad4 is the only one that'll work, thanks!
Gall757 FEB 26, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by mender:

Thanks, that worked!



Thank you!

On your last posted picture, can you mark which dowels and which fasteners are working? Do you have any on the bottom of the housing? You can do that in 'Paint' also.
ericjon262 FEB 26, 11:03 AM
so do the dowels line up and maintain the same center as the crank? this is an interesting development, and I may pursue this if I swap to a HF engine next...

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mender FEB 26, 11:08 AM
The dowels are the only ones on the block. Two of the bolts go through the dowels, the third bolt is the one on the far right of the picture.


I'll be fabbing a bracket to pick up the two upper bolts on the left plus another bracket under the F23 to secure the transaxle to the engine oil pan structure as per factory.

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