I know Todd is still around because he has recently posted on another thread.Todd will call anyone who mentions this thread a troll so I guess I will have to wait for my explanation from him as to how he was threatened by me.Todd,If you read this,I will never let go until you apologize to Euterpe for your hateful and contemptuous actions toward her,an answer to my question'What if it was a member of your family",and an explanation of how you were threatened. I'm sorry to be using Cliff's forum for the reason I am,but Todd needs to be made accountable for the lies he has issued.
Originally posted by hugh: I will never let go until you apologize to Euterpe for your hateful and contemptuous actions toward her,an answer to my question'What if it was a member of your family",and an explanation of how you were threatened.
The whole arguement was started by a post by Yello86SE that has since been deleted.I have no idea how many posts or threads have been edited.Toddster made remarks,no, accusations that he pulled from somewhere in his imagination about Euterpe. It became his mission to protect us from her by getting rid of her .It didn't matter to him if it was true or not,any statement by him was to be taken at face value so people would vote her off the forum.You have to read the whole thread in order to make your own decision as to whether Euterpe did anything wrong or anything that would justify(to yourself)disliking her. Here is the Euterpe thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum8/HTML/000081.html The thread where he claims I threatened him you are now reading.
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i remember reading it. i even posted something on page 8 when all that was going on but went back and deleated it. there really wasn't any point in getting in between them. they were either too much alike, or too different to be able to get along.
but i didn't see anywhere that you threatened todd
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Red88FF----I'll answer your post in 2 parts. 1st. I don't know of anyone who can make an informed judgement after reading only 30% of anything.Man hating?I think not,since most of her posts are aimed at Toddster and( for the most part) are defensive.Since when is owning a Fiero one of the criteria required for membership on this forum. 2nd. He has never proved me wrong and I surely don't agree with him.Name one post in a thread where I followed him,in fact I did not post anything in this thread until Todd mentioned my name and accused me of threatening him ! I asked Todd to show where I threatened him! Since you haven't read the whole thread,I suggest you do.If you are still of the same feelings,fine.Just get your facts straight and don't fabricate them as Todd does.
Euturpe may have been quite abrasive at times and even earned some of the dirt that was throw back at her, but I can't believe you could read through that thread and not find it appalling that Toddster would not only accuse her of being a rape and incest victim, but use that fact to dismiss her opinion as invalid. Mind you, this is with absolutely no proof what so ever, just Toddster's expert opinion based on her posts on the forum. Euturpe may not have deserved unconditional backing, but Toddster's conduct was truly reprehensible any way you cut it.
. Euterpe was a breath of fresh air here for the short time she was at PFF.
There were/are several "men" here with terribly fragile male egos who couldn't handle a woman standing up to them. They tried to push her around. She wouldn't take their crap, so by using her superior intellect she basically humiliated any dolt who tried to demean her.
It was great while it lasted.
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Posted by Red88FF "Why the hell would I read more than three pages. Some can just catch on quicker than others I guess."
Even if you were the smartest person I have ever known,(and you most certainly are not) there is no way to make an INTELLIGENT interpretation of an arguement after reading only 30% of it.
Posted by Red88FF "Yup one guy made a male oriented statement about bald women and his preference to never have anything to do with one. Well that may be a bit lighter BUT you defend the following crap?"
Originally posted by Euterpe:
"did a local glacier thaw out, or something? there seems to be a neanderthal in the neighborhood.
i always wonder why pathetic shitwads like this are so quick to call a woman "trailer trash," as if the queen of frickin' sheba were on her knees, eager to fellate him.
besides, i don't see why a bald head would be such a turn off to an imbecile like this... it would feel just like the only thing he ever does touch, when he gets off. "
Don't make light of the remark that was in response to.
Posted by Red88FF "I hear you don't like Todd,, great. You might try another approach other than defending an angry man hater."
You're correct! I don't like Todd. I would defend even you if Todd made the same accusation about a female member of your family and you responded in kind.
My dislike for Todd doesn't extend to you,I have no reason to dislike you,we are on opposite sides of a fence.Extraordinarily manish,What does that mean?After reading 30% of a thread no reasonable person can make a decision as to who is right or wrong. "That kind of deep hatred is NOT ok and most likely does stem from physical sexual abuse." How can you make such an assumption?Every time you post you sound more and more like Todd!
Has anyone else noticed there are a lot of edited posts on this page?Whole posts have been removed,usually the edits are for correcting spelling or adding to the original posts,not to erase the original post ! I have my own ideas about why they were removed,but I could be wrong.
I wish to make a change in my above post and don't want it missed or misconstrued. That is why I choose to write another post.After reading what I have previously posted it may seem I have one person in mind,That is not true.Overall I stand by my previous post,I just don't want any support for me or any dislike of anyone I may have a discussion with to Evolve into a ratings surge that might get that person(who could be a valuable member)voted off this forum.At this point I mean Red88FF,I have given him the only support I can by giving him a + rating.
I realize that what I have just said may give the impression I place too much value on myself.Nothing could be farther from the truth! I am one person and have only one vote.I am no more important than anyone else on here.