Guess who Indians credit and revere for freeing them from British occupation/rule. Hint: think of the worst monster to ever live. Lol!
You are going to try to tell me that it was Chandra Bose's association with Adolf Hitler that gained India's independence. You are wrong, just as you are wrong about so much of history. You have been duped by your cult.
Some in India believe that. Some in the USA believe that Hillary is a saint.
Originally posted by sourmash: Oh, I get it now. Some Q-bits must've kicked your butt on another sight so and you think it's retribution time somewhere else. And I'm guessing they got so dumb by listening to Alex Jones and Glenn Beck. They sound as gullible as those listening to Fauci and the impending corona-caust that didn't happen. Millions dead! DOOM!
Other than a military board and a couple of beef cattle boards, I don't go to other 'sights'. Far and away, the members on those few I do frequent, are just as perplexed as I am over the stupidity and gullibility of so many dumb people and their recent conspiracy crap. Almost all the conspiracy theories I've referred to were posted right here on good old PFF OT over the last 18 months.
I'm not sure I have ever read or listened to anything from Alex Jones but I vaguely know who he is and I haven't at all tho, kept up with Beck in well over a year, maybe 2 or 3, tho I may have occasionally read something on The Blaze if a headline on the internet caught my eye or linked to it. I didn't pay a lot of attention to him when he was with Fox and certainly not since. I don't watch TV talk shows or listen to radio except for the local ag report and music if my wife happens to be with me in the truck. I don't have a radio in my home except a vintage transitor and I don't keep batteries in it. There is very little of my personal life, or that of my immediate family that has not been divulged here at PFF, and there have probably been a dozen PFF members visit me here at different times. Unlike many here, it would be almost an impossibility for me to present myself as anything other than what and who I actually am. This was the very 1st internet board I ever joined and still my favorite and I promised myself from the outset that I would not create an 'internet persona' that differed in any way from who I am. I do not make anything up about my life, good or bad, have presented my failures along with my few successes.
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You are going to try to tell me that it was Chandra Bose's association with Adolf Hitler that gained India's independence. You are wrong, just as you are wrong about so much of history. You have been duped
You can always tell when someone has no answer. They attempt to emotionally tell someone else what they expect them to say so an arguement can be created that was never presented.
Think bigger picture and the events that set the stage for change. Guess who Indians credit and revere for breaking Britain's ability to occupy them?
It's not mine, lol. But it's the man who is today cited for being the cause of the war through his party. Britain lost their empire in the effort to defeat him and his countrymen, leading the circumstances which led to their freedom.
Today his book is still a best seller. He's revered for his nationalism and leadership. This man used an Indian symbol for his flag. He's on all kinds of retail goods in their stores. When Indians travel to the West they're surprised at first when they learn of Western opinions.
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It's not mine, lol. But it's the man who is today cited for being the cause of the war through his party. Britain lost their empire in the effort to defeat him and his countrymen, leading the circumstances which led to their freedom.
Today his book is still a best seller. He's revered for his nationalism and leadership. This man used an Indian symbol for his flag. He's on all kinds of retail goods in their stores. When Indians travel to the West they're surprised at first when they learn of Western opinions.
You are trying awfully hard not to say what I already said.
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You are going to try to tell me that it was Chandra Bose's association with Adolf Hitler that gained India's independence. You are wrong, just as you are wrong about so much of history. You have been duped by your cult.
Some in India believe that. Some in the USA believe that Hillary is a saint.
No cult would have me. Your present behavior is perfectly trained for one though.
Honestly, I don't know what your said for certain.
Britain sacrificed their empire along with world reserve currency to defeat Germany. Fact. Was India part of the empire? Yes. Fact. Do Indians do what I said they do? Yes. Fact.
Show me how I'm wrong instead of twisting your head around.
It's not mine, lol. But it's the man who is today cited for being the cause of the war through his party. Britain lost their empire in the effort to defeat him and his countrymen, leading the circumstances which led to their freedom.
Today his book is still a best seller. He's revered for his nationalism and leadership. This man used an Indian symbol for his flag. He's on all kinds of retail goods in their stores. When Indians travel to the West they're surprised at first when they learn of Western opinions.
I think the "Hitler fan club of India" (or whatever it could be called) loses membership with every passing year. If not in absolute numbers, then as a percentage of the national population of India. The Hindu version of Ethno-Nationalism has been thriving, but I think the leaders of it are just smart enough to not want to tuck Hitler under their arm and rush for yardage with him. (To describe it using my version of NFL-Speak.)
Who is Chandra Bose? I can look her(?) up but my larger point is that this is nobody namewise read of until today in your posting.
You are pretending to know the history of India, WWII and the British empire and you have never heard of Subhas Chandra Bose. You have just demonstrated my point.
Triggering you wasn't my goal. Discovered it by accident.
You'll need to quote what was actually posted to have actual credibility.
You're making a different point and it appears about POST WWII Indian history, say 1947ish which is NOT my statement at all. But you're also falsely accusing (as is normal) about beliefs never expressed nor kept. Out of bullets?
Search engine what was posted and you'll find any supporting evidence of my posts that you contest. Churchill was a war mongering idiot. Chamberlain made one foolish mistake of guaranteeing war and THAT is why they lost their empire freeing India. A potion of Indians have always held fondness for the actions leading to their freedom. You insinuate this is new, but you're WRONG.
All events of WWII are losing associates and associations that were previously stable or growing. The money train it brought in is running out with each year.
Plus the more westernized the East gets the more beneficial it is to adopt the Western beliefs. Dirtbags like Richard Gere go on their TV shows to publicly grab and kiss a woman violating their cultural norms just so we can break them down to our Hollywood scummy ideals of hedonism.
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No, no, no. Show how my statements are wrong. Not going any further with this deflection routine and the name calling of yours. You've already been called to prove.
Even Rinse agreed that Indians have historically credited him and Germany. You can buy inspirational coffee mugs with his image affixed over there.
Now stop deflecting from the challenges I have already made to your claims I'm wrong. Take any four of them and show how they are wrong.
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Rinselberg and coffee mugs? That is your supporting evidence?
Some Indians believe that Chandra Bose, with the help of Adolf Hitler, drove out the British, even though both died in 1945. Some Americans believe Elvis is still alive. Some Americans believe that Joe Biden is competent enough to lead the country. Some Americans believe the Holocaust never happened.
I know, of course you can't prove any if it wrong. And of course you'd reveal you were really disputing a different statement I didn't make. Now, let's move on.
A bunch of people reading just entered it in a search engine and just learned something about how Indians view a Western super-villian. I just learned they named ice cream after him. Really?! Ice Cream?
I know, of course you can't prove any if it wrong. And of course you'd reveal you were really disputing a different statement I didn't make. Now, let's move on.
A bunch of people reading just entered it in a search engine and just learned something about how Indians view a Western super-villian. I just learned they named ice cream after him. Really?! Ice Cream?
Of course you are correct that some people revere Hitler. They are all wrong.
I know, of course you can't prove any if it wrong. And of course you'd reveal you were really disputing a different statement I didn't make. Now, let's move on.
A bunch of people reading just entered it in a search engine and just learned something about how Indians view a Western super-villian.
India's perspective on the NAZIs was somewhat different than that of the west, bent through the prism of British imperialism and focused by Subhas Chandra Bose (the anti Gandhi). Unfortunately, global politics are far too often driven by the old adage, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
In the 1940s in India, there were millions of moslems and only about 20,000 Jews. In the time since, the moslim population has grown to well over 100,000,000 while the Jewish population has dwindled to a few thousand.
And that was not the first time that I wrote here about India and the Nazis or Chandra Bose. So your erroneous suggestion that I was wrong is ill-informed. You are trying to appear educated, while repeatedly exposing your lack of knowledge.
Still more deflection? sigh* Why would I care about some other thread?
I posted factually, which was acknowledge by another person, how Indians view a historical event.
Britain lost their empire by an action (WWII). Britain lost World Reaerve Currency status decades later, but by the same actions of WWII which indebted them critically.
India was part of that lost empire. They didn't view Germany in the same perspective.
I'm bewildered how that has destroyed your ability to reasonably discuss.
Still more deflection? sigh* Why would I care about some other thread?
The fact that something is difficult for you to understand does not mean it is a deflection.
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I posted factually, which was acknowledge by another person, how Indians view a historical event.
Britain lost their empire by an action (WWII). Britain lost World Reaerve Currency status decades later, but by the same actions of WWII which indebted them critically.
India was part of that lost empire. They didn't view Germany in the same perspective.
I'm bewildered how that has destroyed your ability to reasonably discuss.
I am not surprised that you are sometimes bewildered.
In 1939 the British Indian Army numbered 205,000 men. It took in volunteers and by 1945 was the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men. These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. British Indian Army earned 17 Victoria Crosses during World War II.
~ Wikipedia
They couldn't have been all that enthusiastic about Hitler. Prima facie evidence.
Having waded through this entire thread, I have to say that I'm astonished at where the topic about a fake virologist being interviewed by a butch lesbian, fake journalist has ended up.
It does seem appropriate though.
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Can a Covid vaccine candidate be like a McLaren 720S GT3? And what's it got to do with Frank Sinatra?
Actually, it's not available yet under the FDA's Emergency Use Authorization program and may never progress all the way to that milestone, but fingers are crossed.
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"Artist’s depiction of an ultrapotent COVID-19 vaccine candidate in which 60 pieces of a coronavirus protein (red) decorate nanoparticles (blue and white)." Credit: Ian C. Haydon Institute for Protein Design.
The way to say it is "Icosavax IVX-411." Shorten it to "Icosavax 411" and it sounds like the next blockbuster feature length movie, or the next video production from that notorious filmmaker Michael Moore.
This is (part of) how it was summarized in "Cell" on November 25, 2020.
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We describe the structure-based design of self-assembling protein nanoparticle immunogens that elicit potent and protective antibody responses against SARS-CoV-2 in mice. The nanoparticle vaccines display 60 SARS-CoV-2 spike receptor-binding domains (RBDs) in a highly immunogenic array and induce neutralizing antibody titers 10-fold higher than the prefusion-stabilized spike despite a 5-fold lower dose.
"Elicitation of Potent Neutralizing Antibody Responses by Designed Protein Nanoparticle Vaccines for SARS-CoV-2" Alexandra C. Walls et al; Cell; November 25, 2020. https://www.cell.com/cell/f...0092-8674(20)31450-1
This summary is perhaps more to the point:
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An ultrapotent nanoparticle candidate vaccine against COVID-19 has been developed with structure-based vaccine design techniques invented at UW [University of Washington] Medicine. It is a self-assembling protein nanoparticle that displays 60 copies of the SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein's receptor-binding domain in a highly immunogenic array. The molecular structure of the vaccine roughly mimics that of a virus, which may account for its enhanced ability to provoke an immune response.
Preclinical data published in Cell show the nanoparticle vaccine spurs extremely high levels of protective antibodies in animal models
Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology News:
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The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has provided a $10 million grant designed to support the company’s COVID-19 vaccine program through the first-in-human Phase I clinical trial in young and older adults, expected to begin in mid-2021. Icosavax has also received $6.5 million from Open Philanthropy to support development of the company’s vaccine platform technology and COVID-19 vaccine candidate.
It's like the McLaren 720S GT3 of Covid vaccine platforms. Could anything be more technologically advanced than this? I'm thinking back to a scene from the original Manchurian Candidate, where the Frank Sinatra character displayed a one-off deck of playing cards--well, here:
"52 Red Queens" has become "60 Covid Spikes"... 60 SARS-CoV-2 spike receptor-binding domains or RBDs (as distinct from RBGs!) that are saying to the Covid-19 virus "It's over. The spikes are smashed. They're smashed as of now because we say so. We're busting up the RNA. We're tearing out all the proteins. You don't work anymore."
This PowerPoint or PowerPoint-like image was part of today's White House briefing from that new red-haired ingenue (see what I just did?) Jen Psaki.
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More about Icosavax and their VLP (Virus Like Particle) vaccine candidates
And of course you'd reveal you were really disputing a different statement I didn't make. Now, let's move on.
