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Da swastika stays ! by MidEngineManiac
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That might be tinnitus (sound in your ears) because I can't even find this story in the New York Times online. It might be there, in the "back" somewhere, but it's really "buried" under all the other news reports, even in the New York state section of the New York Times, where I would most expect to see it.

Please update on this if you see anything about a reaction of any significance from the "people with heads that are susceptible to exploding" demographic or condition.
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THAT demographic is generally referred to as

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The word 'swastika' is from Sanskrit and is a portmanteau of the words for well and being.

Hence the meaning of swastika is "well being".

So, if we apply "liberal logic", we should now reject all things Indian as racist, because the NAZI's co opted an ancient symbol.

Well being is now evil.
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Who you callin' a cracker?

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Originally posted by williegoat:


the NAZI's co opted an ancient symbol.
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I believe only the Nazis tipped the symbol on one corner?
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Originally posted by williegoat:
So, if we apply "liberal logic", we should ...


We should know that any thing they promise, means they want the opposite to come true
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Originally posted by williegoat:

The word 'swastika' is from Sanskrit and is a portmanteau of the words for well and being.

Hence the meaning of swastika is "well being".

So, if we apply "liberal logic", we should now reject all things Indian as racist, because the NAZI's co opted an ancient symbol.

Well being is now evil.

Across the nation of India, the swastika has not been as consistently and universally reviled for its Nazi associations as is the case here in the United States and so many other countries. The same can be said for "Mein Kampf" and also the name "Hitler" itself has not been as carefully shunned by everyone in India. Buried in the annals of this very forum, there's a small news report that I posted about a "Hitler Fried Chicken" emporium (a small one) that was in India.

I can offer some ideas about it, but I'm hardly an expert on this cultural idiosyncrasy or oddity that's been apparent in the nation of India. I would think it has probably diminished during more recent years, not increased or even held its own. But I've not tried to research it.

The Nazi swastika is best described as tilted (usually) and clockwise facing (always) but I think getting into the intricacies of whether a swastika is clockwise or counterclockwise, or is straight and angular like the Nazi version or has some curvature of its lines like some Hindu versions of it--just a "rabbit hole" for the most part.

I think the invocation of "liberal logic" (ala williegoat) in this way is just silly. Make believe. It comes across to me as someone closing their eyes and trying to feel good about some very contrived idea about "liberal logic" (swastika, India, Nazi, co-opting) but without actually being able to feel good about such a contrivance. A small instance of attempted conservative virtue signaling gone amok.

"Dream on."

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India's perspective on the NAZIs was somewhat different than that of the west, bent through the prism of British imperialism and focused by Subhas Chandra Bose (the anti Gandhi). Unfortunately, global politics are far too often driven by the old adage, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

In the 1940s in India, there were millions of moslems and only about 20,000 Jews. In the time since, the moslim population has grown to well over 100,000,000 while the Jewish population has dwindled to a few thousand.

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