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88 Coupe gets a 3.4 by josef644
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Used around a gallon of diesel cleaning the transmission after work today. I ordered new seals and gaskets for the two pans. Ordered a new two prong normally open 3rd gear switch. Pricey, $23.00.

I'll put up 'clean' picture sometime tomorrrow.

Page 13, neat!!!

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Hey Joe!

Just got caught up on this thread. What a nice car it has turned out to be. That's a lot of work you have done. Hope all is well with you and yours. I'm back in the Fiero game - just picked up an 87 T Top with a Duke/Auto. The duke is coming out for a 3800SC. After spending the last hour or so reading your thread, I am inspired.

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Good to hear from you Pat. We were hoping that you would make it to Ruckus last year.

I am quite pleased with my Fiero. Looks good, and runs like a top. I am unhappy with the 3300 RPM at 70 MPH. Hoping this 4T60 will get my fuel mileage up to around 30mpg.

Were you able to get the Duke to run?

Cleaned up a bit.




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These are the axles I used on my Formula for the 4T60. I looked I didn't see if you've covered that already.
The rebuilt NAPA p/n 95-9178 and 95-9208 axles. From 89 pont 6000 w/ light duty brakes.

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I purchased these from RockAuto a few months back.


Got these delivered today. Gaskets and seals:



I used the 3rd geat pressure switch from the Fiero Store for the 125C. It is the correct one to use.

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Got the rest of my parts to replace the filter 3rd gear switch, and seals on the 4T60. I will use these one day this week after work.

Took it for a 40 minuet ride. SWEET!!!!!!

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Are you gonna rebuild the trans yourself?

I had my buddy do mine, he put in stronger springs for the shift solenoids and it felt solid when it shifted.

Mine got 26 to 28 MPG. that was after I put all the coolant temp switches and thermostat back to stock.
You're in Texas, are you running cooler stuff for the heat?
Mine was bought in Phoenix and built in Las Vegas. When I brought it back here to Illinois it suffered horribly. The thermostat was drilled out and switches were the coolest you could get so the computer enriched the AFR to the point where I got around 20 MPG.

At 100 MPH I was running 3 grand on the tach. That was sweet.

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Are you gonna rebuild the trans yourself?

I had my buddy do mine, he put in stronger springs for the shift solenoids and it felt solid when it shifted.

Mine got 26 to 28 MPG. that was after I put all the coolant temp switches and thermostat back to stock.
You're in Texas, are you running cooler stuff for the heat?
Mine was bought in Phoenix and built in Las Vegas. When I brought it back here to Illinois it suffered horribly. The thermostat was drilled out and switches were the coolest you could get so the computer enriched the AFR to the point where I got around 20 MPG.

At 100 MPH I was running 3 grand on the tach. That was sweet.


I am gonna try it like it is right now.

Had this made today



Works like a champ.

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Drove to Dallas for the NTFC gathering. Went to Quitman to see my Dad since I was up that way. Got home last night at 9:00pm. Around 550 miles yesterday.

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I removed the side cover to access the wires and install a N. O. pressure switch for the TCC. Real clean inside there. Made me happy to see it was spotless. Removed the old gasket and grime on the outside of the pan.

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Are you going to put the gasket on with some kind of sealant? RTV, The right Stuff or put on dry? Interested in your tranny install. I've got a 4T60 sitting in my garage (too cold to do much). Far as I can tell I have everything. still need to have the bracket modified that goes between the tranny and motor. I'm pulling the cover's off too to make sure it's clean inside. PO left an opening where the transmission dip stick goes in and the kick down cable on top. I'm sure some debris made it's way in there while it was sitting.

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I will use the gaskets that I purchased. There are 2 needed for the side pan, and one for the bottom pan. I always install a new torque converter seal, and both CV shaft seals. Cheap and easy to do while it is out of the car.

Any trash that got in threw the dipstick tube hole will be in the bottom pan, not the side pan.

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Removed the CV shaft seals, installed the new ones. I got a new pressure switch for third gear engagement. I am just about ready to take the 88 apart once again. I need to connect the internal wiring and replace the side pan.

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Sorry I haven't called you been super busy with work.

I put a relay in for the TCC.
But I was having problems with my third gear not shifting in my first trans. Found the rebuild shop left out an O'Ring down in the drums.
They built me a replacement trans, and it shifted into third good but would slip out if I gave it too much gas. another O'ring problem.
During all the trouble shooting I was making sure the relay wasn't the culprit, so, I disconnected it.
I finally got it to shift right after a friend of mine found the O'Ring problems.
I never did reconnect the relay and had no issues. I put about 5 to 8 thousand miles on it before I sold the car to Niterrorz. He hasn't said anything about it.

Karl Hamilton put the relay in as a safety because he said his car stalled at a stop because the TCC was kicking in. The brake pedal voltage interrupt switch should be sufficient.

I would try it first with out it. Then if you have troubles put it in. It is confusing to get the Logic correct.

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A shot of the new switch installed on the 3rd gear pressure port. The shinny one in just about the center of the picture:


Side cover replaced after soldering the wires to match the TH125C wiring:


I got this from fieroguru. Thought it might come in handy for someone else:

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We have had our house for sale since last November. We had to sign approval contracts for accepting the offer made to us this morning. Won't be switching out this transmission until we move out and find us a new place to live , and of course fix Fiero's. 4 Car garage w/ concrete floors first priority for a new place to live.!!!!

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I dropped the bottom pan of the transmission yesterday. Was very clean inside there. Installed a new Wix filter and gasket. I removed 2 inches off of the dipstick tube. The 'T' handle of the dip stick was broken off right at the handle. Re assembled with a new dipstick tube seal.

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Went out in the garage this morning and got a few things done on the 4T60. Added the adjustable vacuum modulator, the dipstick tube and a few fasteners that I hadn't used that needed to be added.

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The folks that were trying to purchaase our house had to back out. Couldn't get financeing.

Thought about starting the install. Decided to wait until after Round Up in San Antonio in April.

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Sorry the sale fell through. I like your style on what you are looking for in your New house though!! Just thought I would chime in and let you know I was still following your thread. What did your 4T60 come out of? I found a 4T60E for a cheap price but think those are harder to convert over.

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Ben, mine came out of a 1990 Grand Prix w/3100 V6. Don't buy a 4T60E It requires an ECM to shift the gears. The 'E' means electrical shifted, hence the ECM.

The 4T60 was used as late as 92 or 93 maybe. 90-93's were the top of the food chain for 4T60's upgrades etc.

Go to this page and look.
http://www.gmtuners.com/transmission/index.htm

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Yeah I wasn't going to buy anything until I was sure. The trans is our of a 91 Park Avenue. I looked up the specs for it in Wikipedia and it said it was the E version so I Was going to pass on it.

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Hoping to get my hood back on the car tomorrow. I found one real nice in houston for $50.00 last week. I was able to get paint on the hood before the wind and rain moved in yesterday afternoon. I'll get a picture of it mounted back on teh car tomorrow.

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double post deleated.

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Did you happen to take anymore pictures of the wires you soldered inside the side cover to match the TH125C?

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Did you happen to take anymore pictures of the wires you soldered inside the side cover to match the TH125C?


I didn't , but it was almost a duplication of the 125C wiring. I came in with wire 'A' to the TCC. Then out to the 3rd gear pressure switch, then back to position 'D' in the connector. Real easy. Heat shrink, then reapply the black plastic sheath. A local transmission shop told me to put the pressure switch between the 'out' side of the TCC and the 'D' connector.

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Here ya go of the hood back on the car:

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Took this a while ago today. Has been a long time getting here to this condition.

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Looks great Joe! If you find another hood in good shape let me know

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Looks great Joe! If you find another hood in good shape let me know


If I run across one, I'll let you know. Poe should have everything you would need to get it back in good shape. He told me he had a few hoods at his place.

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Thought about starting the install. Decided to wait until after Round Up in San Antonio in April.


I am glad to know this. It will be nice to have your car in driveable condition for the spring events!

speaking of... you plan on coming up for the Spring Fling?... I know it is a long haul, and made even longer by adding a full day of roads in the Texoma vacinity, but we'd love to have you!

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We haven't decided on it or not yet. I do want to make AER this year, and Roundup. We are in sort of a 'limbo' with the sale of our house and moving to somewhere on the west side of Houston. Just have to play it by ear for a while.

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Drove 300 miles today going to Galveston Island and back. Still getting around 24mpg. AC still working great. Yes indeedie!!!!!!!!

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My wife was out of town all week helping her brother after some surgery. I used my Coupe as a DD to work and back all week. Seems to be getting around 25 MPG. 22 miles each way, speed limit is 55 most of the way. The car is doing real well. I am really pleased with the way it runs and handles in the twisties.

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725 miles this weekend going to San Antonio and back. I have a oil leak somewhere around the harmonic balancer. Leaking a quart in about 350 miles. I am getting around 25 MPG.

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My car is locked up and stored in a friends garage for the rest of the summer since April 20,2013. The friend in is Iowa until October. She does not care for the Texas summertime. I miss driving it around some, but I would have to park it in an open parking lot out of view. I am not to happy with that.

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Yeah, I don't blame you there. Make sure to go say Hi to her every couple of weeks!

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We have bought a home in Dickinson Texas. I was able to go and bring my Coupe home today. She is sleeping in her new bed tonight. Around a 140 mile run today. Ran like a champ.

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Dug the Old Girl outta the garage Sunday and took her to Galveston Island and back for a 55 mile round trip. Flawless trip,

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Glad she is still running well for you Joe. Any chance you are going to make the Ruckus this weekend?

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We backed the Coupe out of the garage yesterday and made another trip to Galveston Island. We stopped at the Sonic and watched the beach traffic while we had some refreshments. Flawless trip. We have put on around 8000 miles to it since I got her on the road. We both have enjoyed the large and small trips in this car.

Might have a T Top set up to add to my car over the winter.

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