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Any people with canards on the front of their Fiero?? by PacNWFiero
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Just curious as to what it would look like. I know the Fiero can have issues with generating front lift at high speeds, and in addition to venting the radiator's pressure I was thinking that perhaps front canards could help generate some downforce to combat the lift of radiator pressure. Anyway, if you've got a picture of your car with canards that would be awesome!

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I think doublec4 had some on his car (not sure if he still does).

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How do you envision canards venting radiator pressure?
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Venting the radiator could help, but canards won't do a lot. In race cars they're used to fine tune balance but the real down force comes from the wing, splitter, diffuser bits. They look cool, though.
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Olejoedad- I did not mean that they'd be venting radiator pressure, I meant that they could help produce downforce to combat the lift generated by the pressure.

TommyRocker- I profess, I don't have much experience at all with fluid/aero dynamics, so I don't know much about the actual benefit of them, only that they do look sweet
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Raydar- that splitter looks sweet (and I imagine it does it's job quite well), but I don't know how it would fare against the perils of curbs and speed bumps or abrupt changes in grade (dismounting a trailer or something like that). But it would be pretty cool!
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I was hoping someone would have pics as I am considering these on the front of mine as well when I get around to refinishing it. I'm all about the aesthetics, don't care if they actually do anything.

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At the Fieros.at Auburn show several years ago there was a Fiero with small canards.
They looked like ankle slicers if one wasn't careful walking around the car.
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Something to think about...
Any small device that supposedly generates say 200 lbs of downforce, will need an attachment point capable of handling 200 lbs.

Double sided sticky tape and attachment to a plastic fender/fascia isn't going to do much of anything.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

How do you envision canards venting radiator pressure?


I read his post as saying he knows we can vent "radiator pressure", but besides that can something like canards help hold the front end down.
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Originally posted by fieroguru:

Something to think about...
Any small device that supposedly generates say 200 lbs of downforce, will need an attachment point capable of handling 200 lbs.

Double sided sticky tape and attachment to a plastic fender/fascia isn't going to do much of anything.


Yes and no...

Suppose that you install a skirt on the front of the car that creates a vacuum under the nose of the car.

So you would generate some downforce, but the downforce would be acting on the bottom of the car, and not on the skirt.
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Originally posted by PacNWFiero:

Just curious as to what it would look like.



Saw this posted from years ago.
I don't have any more details.

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Originally posted by 2.5:


I read his post as saying he knows we can vent "radiator pressure", but besides that can something like canards help hold the front end down.


I can see that interpretation upon rereading.
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