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V6 intake plenum spacers: should I make them? If so, HELP! by fieromadman
Started on: 11-03-2016 07:57 PM
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Well either way, block of plates or spacer cost would be about the same. Perhaps I can offer both. They would most likely be plasma cut, nothing fancy. I was hoping to not have to mfg any new vacuum lines.
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There's also a bent steel tube from the throttle body to the lower intake manifold. This is for the idle air.

There's also the brake booster vacuum line which is bolted to the middle manifold, but makes its way up to the plenum.

In order to keep the scope of this project reasonable, you could just offer the spacers and then let customers deal with all the "small issues".
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

In order to keep the scope of this project reasonable, you could just offer the spacers...


Perhaps the spacers and the correct length replacement bolts... but make it clear in discussion what else might need to be attended to.
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In light of the vacuum lines and other various things that might need to be modified in order to make these work I think I'm going to offer them in the .625" variety. I think that you might get enough flex out of the IAC tube and all the other vacuum lines to not have to come up with an aftermarket solution.

I will still make a spacer (.625" thick also) for the EGR tube because those are fragile enough to begin with. I may offer block off plates also as a off-road/track package.

I think I may make some spacers that just say Fiero, Formula, Fiero GT, Fiero H.O. V6 and some that say nothing at all.

I would like to make them thicker for those of you who wanted that but the truth is that it's going to be a lot of headache to get them installed like that.

Do you folks want them with the gaskets or without?

My original plan was to have it all inclusive making it easiest on you all: Spacers, bolts, gaskets, EGR spacer, and gaskets and bolts for the EGR spacer.

In other news, I've lost touch with all the Fiero owners that I used to know in the SE Wisconsin area. Anyone have a V6 car in the area that would let me use it to test? P.M. me for details! Also, anyone know where firefox is at? (the member not the browser!)

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I would order the .625 spacer with gaskets and bolts so I would not need to source these. Engraving of Fiero or Fiero H.O. would be my vote.

Dick C.

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Me too I'm ready to buy!! Will be replacing my vacuum lines with SS lines this winter so getting these at the same time would be perfect!!
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I would order the .625 spacer with gaskets and bolts so I would not need to source these. Engraving of Fiero or Fiero H.O. would be my vote.

Dick C.



It's fair to say you want the spacer and gaskets to make the egr work too?
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Originally posted by fieromadman:


It's fair to say you want the spacer and gaskets to make the egr work too?

No, mine is removed. But I know others will need that option.
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I actually was hoping for taller ones, but admit I don't know exactly what would need work /extended to install. I may end up watching and hoping people post install pics and details.
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2.5, you may be able to get 2 sets, and then stack them....Obviously, you would need longer bolts and two more gaskets......At 5/8" high the 2 together would add up to 1.25" plus an added 1/16" for the added gaskets.

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I'm not ruling out a taller set at some point in the future but it would seem that these would be far less hassle to install and therefore i think I have a bigger audience for these. I'm still going to be making these. As soon as the development goes further (car required!) I'll let you guys know.

Thanks!
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(car required!)



I wish I could help you out there, but 300 miles is a bit of a gap.

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

you may be able to get 2 sets, and then stack them...


Now that would start being a little pricey.
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Now that would start being a little pricey.


As with any advertisement, the number of words increases the cost. But whomever tries this can be much more creative with what it says, stacked! Suddenly, decklids might start sporting shaker scoops of the trans am variety.
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I purchased an upper intake manifold to develop these off of and I have an 88 formula lined up to test fit them on. Waiting on the manifold so I can develop the final model and then test fit on said car.
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Originally posted by fieromadman:

I purchased an upper intake manifold to develop these off of and I have an 88 formula lined up to test fit them on. Waiting on the manifold so I can develop the final model and then test fit on said car.


BUMP to the TOP!..... What's going on with this?.... Any progress on the design/fitting?
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Yes I'm waiting too
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Still interested too.
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If somebody can make a CAD file of them I could make them at my buddies shop where I make jetski parts. He just got a cnc and a laser cutter. The lasers expensive to run so hed prolly cnc them.

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