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Rubber bushings for 88 trailing arms by Rodney
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I have started on getting these made finally. They will be molded in a thin steel sleeve and will be a press in type. This is for the long rear trailing arms on the 88 Fiero. Sorry I put this off for too long. It will take a few 3-4 months before I have some on hand. I might have a simple press in aluminum tool made also to help with pressing them in. Most likely I would include a sanding flapper wheel to sand the ID of the ends to remove any rubber from the old bushings or rust etc.

Any other requests? I think the rest of the rubber suspension bushings used in the 88 are still available? Or some have found substitutes that work?

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Sweet. Keep up the good work.

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Awesome! I'm not sure the others are available. It would be great to get them all together as a set since they all probably would need to be replaced at the same time. Thanks for looking out for our needs Rodney! Still hopeful that you'll get the T-Top seals too a some point...hint hint....

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Yes! I don't really want to go to poly in my DD as it tends to squeak. I second the T-top Seal problem. I know mine are shot.

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Originally posted by FieroCustom:

Yes! I don't really want to go to poly in my DD as it tends to squeak. I second the T-top Seal problem. I know mine are shot.



I will admit poly is somewhat harsh in an 88 ( but not as bad as a full poly 84-87 rear suspension), however I have not heard one squeak from it yet.
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Originally posted by Rodney:
I think the rest of the rubber suspension bushings used in the 88 are still available? Or some have found substitutes that work?



Only the toe-link bushings are currently available as a direct fit option. The currently available trailing link bushings require a sleeve (16mm bolt vs. the 14mm used in the fiero) and the solid lateral link needs to be modified to use the toe-link bushings. Here is all the info:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/121294.html

Having bushing options that are a direct fit for the 88 rear would be a great thing. I only run rubber bushings in the trailing link to keep road harshness to a minimum so I would be interested in a few sets of the trailing link bushings.
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I was able to buy brand-new trailing arms (yes the long ones) with new rubber in them as recently as a year ago; it took some searching but I finally got them. Made in USA. I've yet to do anything with them since I'm still up in the air about what to do with the lateral and adjusting links.

Rodney has the better solution, in my opinion, since his bushing won't require replacing any original hard parts with unknown aftermarkets.
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Another vote for a full set of rubber replacements.
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Report this Post03-02-2013 01:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'll look at having the ones made for the lateral and toe links also.

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Sweet! I will offer up my car as a first set test subject for the full set!
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Even though my cradle swap is on hold while I consentrate on school, I'll be buying at least two sets as soon as I can.

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Rodney, I think the 88 sway-bar bushings would be a good idea.

Front and rear.

Thanks for the effort on getting trailing arm bushings replacements a reality.

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Sounds nice. I've got to get around to working on the red '88 GT one of these days, and I'm sure a new set will likely be in order.

Thanks for all you do for the Fiero community Rodney!
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I would love to have a set of the proper rubber replacements to do the rear of my car.
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I'd be in for two ful sets. Also would vote for sway bar bushings.

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Making progress. Still will take a long time but I should have them some time this summer.

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That is good news. I'm in for a set.
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Me too...
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Working on them. Long lead time. Tooling has to be made etc. These things always take way longer than you want them to. But I'm quite sure I will have them this summer some time.

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I lost this thread. (Actually didn't know it existed. Just saw them mentioned in another thread.)

I'm definitely in for a set of the trailing arm bushings.
In case I zone out again, please feel free to PM when you have them.
Much appreciated.
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I'm still working on the rear 88 rubber bushings. We have one engineered and CAD drawn. Two to go yet. Once all three are engineered and CAD drawn I will have them make them. Tooling needs to be made first. Tooling is expensive to make these. Will be a while yet. Maybe by late summer or fall.

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I'm still working on the rear 88 rubber bushings. We have one engineered and CAD drawn. Two to go yet. Once all three are engineered and CAD drawn I will have them make them. Tooling needs to be made first. Tooling is expensive to make these. Will be a while yet. Maybe by late summer or fall.



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patiently waiting............
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Originally posted by Rodney:

I'll look at having the ones made for the lateral and toe links also.




You really are a god among mere men!

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My Fiero still runs because of Rodney Dickman parts.
Whenever they're available - I'll take a set. I've never seen any product from you that was less than OEM quality.

Keep up the good work Rodney!
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Report this Post07-09-2013 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RodneyClick Here to visit Rodney's HomePageClick Here to Email RodneySend a Private Message to RodneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I have made good progress. The first batch is the 3 rubber bushings used in the 3 trailing arms for the 88 Fiero. The 3 drawings are finished. I have a few minor dimension changes that have to be made yet and soon they will make me some. It appears they will be making me some pre-production samples first. The one bushing that is in the steel sleeve will be reproduced exactly as the original GM bushing. The other two will be in a thin machined steel sleeve that will be pressed into the original trailing arms. They first wanted to make the OD all rubber but I felt that is difficult for most people to install. So I had them change them to an outer steel sleeve type that is press fit into the arms. Similar to my rubber dog bones: http://rodneydickman.com/ca...h=22&products_id=301

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Awesome news! I'll be needing them for my cradle swaps.

In fact that's the whole reason I've not completed the swap! I'm waiting on Rodney's bushings! Yeah, that's the ticket!

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Originally posted by Rodney:

I have made good progress.



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Count me in for a set once ready!
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I'm still working on this. I've had some things about them and their dimensions etc hold me up yet before we can make them. But I will succeed in time. I'm sure by late winter I'll have some on hand. I've made progress on the rubber frame front and rear sway bar bushings for the 88's. I should get those done by late winter/spring. The tooling/start up costs on these is huge. But if I do not make them who will? I'm also looking to make (more or less) exact reproductions of the factory 88 sway bar end links.

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Bump...

Ever get these finished?

I will be ready for a set pretty soon. Plus some additional items. I see another large Rodney Dickman purchase in my future.
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This one has taken a lot longer than it should. I have a few excuses. But: I have made progress on them and I am moving forward on them and they will get done. Still a ways off yet. But they will get done by mid summer or so I hope.

Also working on the rubber pieces for the frame mounts for the 88 sway bars front and rear.

Sorry for the long delay on these pieces.

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I recently swapped an '88 rear cradle into my '87 Fiero, and the trailing arm bushings are a little worse for wear. So you'll have another customer, as soon as those bushings are available.
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I will be in for a set as soon as they're ready!
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I'm still working on this. All three are CAD drawn. Working on a few dimensions on 2 of them. To begin I'm going to get some made for R&D testing to see how they fit. I'll be looking for a few to try them in their 88 rear suspension arms. The concern on the 2 arms is the tubes they get pressed into are rolled and welded making it hard to determine a good outer diameter that will press in and fit nice. If the R&D samples are too loose or too tight I'll have them adjust the diameters and maybe try another run of R&D samples. Lots of tooling costs to make these. Roll the steel outer tubes to the shape/size and then the rubber molding stuff. Once all goes well I'll have a batch made of each. Hopefully by the end of summer but it may be longer yet. Not an easy project but it needs to be done.

Also making progress on the 88 front and rear sway bar frame to sway bar rubber bushings. That is coming along well and should be ready in a few months (hopefully). They will be using a self lubricating type rubber generally used for these types of rubber sway bar bushings so they won't squeak.

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Thanks Rodney!

I am getting tired of the poly bushings in my rear suspension. Please put me on you contact list when they are ready.

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Press bushing? W/ outer shell?
Can likely use same press kit for CA bushings, available thru loaner tools at AZ etc.

 
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I will admit poly is somewhat harsh in an 88 ( but not as bad as a full poly 84-87 rear suspension), however I have not heard one squeak from it yet.

Don't think no noise = bushings are good.
Polly bushing can wear out and never make noise.

any CAs, tailing arms, etc attach to wheel see enough movement that inner sleeve tries to saw thru the polly. Lack of lube and road trash/dirt/etc can make this problem faster than many think.

Silicone Grease lube bushing but also keeps water/dirt out. Many grease outside of polly think noise but no... so water/etc can't get into small voids when meets outer shell and rust out the shell.

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What durometer are the new rubber bushings?
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