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calling all 3800 SC nuts!! i finally did it!! i got a new Fiero. by batousai666
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I have always done the 1 bottle via the GM dealer tech guy for the last 8 years no problems so far.... Maybe haynes has the inside track, but the least fluid in there the least resistance you are going to have against the gears.
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I have always done the 1 bottle via the GM dealer tech guy for the last 8 years no problems so far.... Maybe haynes has the inside track, but the least fluid in there the least resistance you are going to have against the gears.


very well then. thanks for the info.........and helping out us newbs!
a happy medium is the call of the day....i will pull some out with a syringe. thanks for the heads up.
i am just glad i was not way low while hammering it for the past few months......i have been putting that poor car thru the ringer

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i hope i dont get yelled at in here, but i did not let that '00-ish Z28 Camaro pass me today either

thats 2 cars in the pocket, so i dont care what that drunk said

nice little cruise today. uptown, downtown, around town with a quick blast down the highway home
i did good with this car, that i sure did!

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all shined up.....even got a few snaps of a monster, yesterday!






as i was burnin up the main drag i stopped by the gathering at the local O'Riley auto parts for some chit chat.
it was said, aside from the "Laguna Seca Mustang" and the Z-06, i had the best handling car there. no bad, out of 10-15 or so cars.
A 68 GTO, a 70's and 2002 TransAm, a modded late model GrandPrix, some fast S-10 pickups, a real sweet Datsun 260 modded to the teeth, a few other Mustangs GT's, a couple Camaros from the 70's and 00's and others. good time!!

i love the pictures so i must indulge.....my vices






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Car show in Mendon tomorrow morning. Sorry for late notice......

Annual dustoff - should be a good show with lots of entrants.....
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I still need to get you the marker light. It's sitting on my toolbox in the garage. Ill try to make the long drive over this week and drop it off. Your cars looking good.
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I have a couple of markers on my work bench for ya
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Car show in Mendon tomorrow morning. Sorry for late notice......

Annual dustoff - should be a good show with lots of entrants.....


I'll make that run...i got to drop off a guy in Schoolcraft for work around 9 am.....so i could be there by 10 -10:30 ish

we will meet for them parts someday.....no rush

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it was said, aside from the "Laguna Seca Mustang" and the Z-06, i had the best handling car there. no bad, out of 10-15 or so cars.


I have found this to be a loaded statement... lol. I know the fieros at the local autocross group get handled by a challenger regularly... lol.
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I have found this to be a loaded statement... lol. I know the fieros at the local autocross group get handled by a challenger regularly... lol.


i''ll keep that in mind, DarkHorizon
my goal is to make my car a road course car, so i hope to be able to hold my own..against all "Challengers"

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BlackDynamites first carshow!!

hundreds of cars, but i found my kind....well they found me i guess.
big THANKS to OleJoeDad and crew for letting me bend an ear.....and helping with my front hood

these were taken well after most had left. i was able to pull in line and get some good pics.
altho it looks like we are the only ones there trust me we were not. that Mendon show is huge!!













such a beautiful day!! blue sky and some great guys (and a gal)!!
cant wait for next time........



and my personal fave......another Bule 1987!! BD's brother!

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We are having a 3800 meet in royal oak this saturday you should come
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We are having a 3800 meet in royal oak this saturday you should come

Donkey poop I have to attend a daughters wedding. Man I wished I could be there to LEARN as I have a lot of questions about this power train. Is this just for Fieros?

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Wait that is the same weekend as the Dust off at Gilmore. A Lot of West Michigan people will be at Gilmore.

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We are having a 3800 meet in royal oak this saturday you should come

It's a 3800 meet. Mostly W-bodys. Grand prixs, regals, ...etc. Anything with a 3800.

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thanks for the invite..... I would LOVE to meet you guys, but i got plans in IN on that Friday and just found out my passenger side CV boot it dry-rotted and throwing grease all over. not lookin good. so i have to keep the trips down till i can fix it. bummer too, cuz i sooooo totally want to hang out and learn .......soon tho, hopefully very soon.

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back from the dead... i am glad she got your parts shipped to you. i see that she missed sending the qtr sail grill. i will make sure you get it.
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back from the dead... i am glad she got your parts shipped to you. i see that she missed sending the qtr sail grill. i will make sure you get it.


right on there pal!!
The Hittokiri Battousai is deep in gratitude as well as, Mera X. Hai !!
its nice to have backups (for the back ups, even ) Danke!

a bit of an update on Ye Ole BlackDynamite.....well theres nothing to report.*whew*

sucks it looks like rain for Saturday at the big Ferrari TrackDay this year.
Sunday so far is low % chance but MI weather changes in seconds......Just like ohhh Leeezard there, we almost got a Tornada' last night 14 miles to the NE. it was just inside my county and they say it formed in a straight line over my house. Sireens and everything, so i am in there.....wow! i think you guys inFlint had something too......
this year is a big beast year already.

"......And Boom Goes The Dynamite"

road was straight as an arrow.....for miles it seems getyousum

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I see you are haggling for some headers. Where do they run & dump? Behind the motor? or by the trunk?
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I see you are haggling for some headers. Where do they run & dump? Behind the motor? or by the trunk?


YEAH...well i gotta let them go too.

i had my hands on a sweet http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/066046.html Bilet steering wheel. but had to let it go.
i have to let go to the notion, that if i continue to want to drive 'that" way all the time, its time to get the experts on it!
the engine/transmission are paramount. the rest is what it is. that engine can be changed to a'nother 1987 Fiero, i already possessssssssss..........heh heh!!

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ohhh yeah!! my kind of day!!



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Bella!!
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I had planned on attending, but my father was admitted Saturday to the hospital. Looks nice how did you do out on the course? I like that maroon Ferrari parked next to you.

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Bella!!


Bella as in bell la or I have heard it as bay la.
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"Bella" how you say?? Bellissimo!
http://www.mydictionary.net...m=italian&to=english
that GTB is super sweet.
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I think that I may have the only 3800 SC in Windsor ( may be wrong)... but you guys are all much closer than my nearest Canadian counterparts... guess I have the best of both worlds.

More importantly ... very nice car..Love black notchies.. I thought i saw an MPS , what size pulley are you running? Hopefully I can get my car sorted to come over and visit the Michigan guys this summer.

Best of Luck
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It is surprising how many 3800's are in Michigan
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that thing must be a rocket!!! looks like it was going so fast it blew off the headlight cover... lol
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I think that I may have the only 3800 SC in Windsor ( may be wrong)... but you guys are all much closer than my nearest Canadian counterparts... guess I have the best of both worlds.

More importantly ... very nice car..Love black notchies.. I thought i saw an MPS , what size pulley are you running? Hopefully I can get my car sorted to come over and visit the Michigan guys this summer.

Best of Luck
Ryan


MPS indeed.....i am running with a 3.4 pulley.......and boy does it go!

dang i will be closer to Windsor than Detroit this weekend. i got a huge concert happening on Belle Isle
stop by the shore and gimmie a wave

maybe we can hook up at the Woodward Cruise if you got access to the states (ie passport) something to think about, maybe. i'll go if you do

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that thing must be a rocket!!! looks like it was going so fast it blew off the headlight cover... lol


funny story about that....you are right! the lights popped up under extreme throttle and snap it went.
bloody blazing down the road i was.......i need to address this "pop up" situation, post haste.

i also got me first track badge....2 laps. one all on the track the other (1st) lap not so much
spun once and into the weeds i went! whoops.....it was the tightest part going into the hairpin bottom right.


GETYOUSUM!!

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What final ratio do you have on that rocket? I have the 2.90 with supposedly the stock pulley.
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MPS indeed.....i am running with a 3.4 pulley.......and boy does it go!

dang i will be closer to Windsor than Detroit this weekend. i got a huge concert happening on Belle Isle
stop by the shore and gimmie a wave

maybe we can hook up at the Woodward Cruise if you got access to the states (ie passport) something to think about, maybe. i'll go if you do



Id love to come over for a meet with a bunch of michigan people some time ... also the woodward cruise could be a definite possibility.
I usually get most of my parts from the states and am often over about every 2 weeks.
Keep enjoying it
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typically its a progression to setup a track car. to start with, find some 3800 fiero track guys and talk to them. some minor first suggestions is brakes and handling, they are key. hawk makes good race brake pads, ebs makes good ceramic kevlar brake pads/little fade, good thermo properties, so on. lots of others available as well. then check out a good set of dual valved adjustable coilovers, again talk to the 3800 fiero guys and see what works best, brand, fluid rates, spring rates, etc. then some nice adjustable sway bars. and talk to the 3800 guys to see if they prefer poly or graphite poly bushings to stiffen the car up a bit. finally get the car corner balanced. start tracking it, and take notes every time your out. report tire temps, outside temp, humidity, so on... keep notes for year to year comparisons for each track. good luck and have fun.
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What final ratio do you have on that rocket? I have the 2.90 with supposedly the stock pulley.


oh boy....i havenot a clue. stock for the 4T65E-HD i guess......

 
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Id love to come over for a meet with a bunch of michigan people some time ... also the woodward cruise could be a definite possibility.
I usually get most of my parts from the states and am often over about every 2 weeks.
Keep enjoying it
Ryan


right on!! We got the 28th Metro Cruise in GrandRapids too.....i will get the dates.
should be in for a hoot.....get a few more Fieros and run it!

and Leeezard, always a great source of knowledge and sage wisdom.
i got KYB up grades for suspention.....is that good?
tires are needed and i have to have the whole brake system checked, for realiablity
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kyb's are good street performers, some hawk, or pagid, or ebs brake pads in the mix you would have a nice starting setup. i was thinking afco billet adjustable coilovers with dual valving with piggyback resevoirs for extra fluid capacity and cooling. motons, or penskes are nice too. as far as brakes, the 2004 subie wrx front rotors are 13" and already have the fiero bolt pattern. then use monoblock brembos, 6pistons up front and 4pistons in the rear. but again, as you know, someone on here says i dont know anything about race cars/track cars... lol.
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Hey Batousai I got to get those mlds down to you. I am trying to get the old car fixed so I can drive it a distance. Hey found my oil leak! All the darned oil pan bolts were loose. I mean real loose!
I managed to get the drivers side front brake sliders loose and I lubed them. I found Rock Auto is having a close out on some Fiero parts and I purchased some new bolts and slider tubes for the front brakes. Then I ordered some 88 pads for the rear. Working on getting a rack. Mine is bad!
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kyb's are good street performers, some hawk, or pagid, or ebs brake pads in the mix you would have a nice starting setup. i was thinking afco billet adjustable coilovers with dual valving with piggyback resevoirs for extra fluid capacity and cooling. motons, or penskes are nice too. as far as brakes, the 2004 subie wrx front rotors are 13" and already have the fiero bolt pattern. then use monoblock brembos, 6pistons up front and 4pistons in the rear. but again, as you know, someone on here says i dont know anything about race cars/track cars... lol.


Interesting information!!!
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solo, as most big brake upgrades to pre 88 cars, you machine the rotors off the front hubs. then you use 4 subie wrx front rotors on all four corners. they already have the correct lug pattern of the fiero, and they fit the hub nice backspacing wise. now you would have 12.96 inch or close to 13" rotors all around. lots of cars these days use brembo calipers to source from. just make sure your brake bias is 60/40 or 65/35 or close to that as far as piston sizes and pad/material coverage. use some good dot approved stainless braided brake hoses and you will have a very nice brake setup. you will have to relearn how to drive the car with the brakes as it will not need the foot pressures you were once used to. other than that have fun.
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solo, as most big brake upgrades to pre 88 cars, you machine the rotors off the front hubs. then you use 4 subie wrx front rotors on all four corners. they already have the correct lug pattern of the fiero, and they fit the hub nice backspacing wise. now you would have 12.96 inch or close to 13" rotors all around. lots of cars these days use brembo calipers to source from. just make sure your brake bias is 60/40 or 65/35 or close to that as far as piston sizes and pad/material coverage. use some good dot approved stainless braided brake hoses and you will have a very nice brake setup. you will have to relearn how to drive the car with the brakes as it will not need the foot pressures you were once used to. other than that have fun.


Hmm that is interesting. I have 87 front with 88 rear suspensions. But I bet one is limited to wheel size which would require me to purchase new wheels and tires for winter. Definitely great information.

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