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lizardo Build by Mikitcarman
Started on: 08-27-2011 09:50 PM
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has this project been abandoned? I hope another good Fiero wasn't cut up, just to become another unfinished project.
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so far to my knowledge, this is the 3rd kit. the silver prototype has a SC3800 , and the second (yellow and black) is getting painetd with a pink flake clear coat?

I am intrested to see this. although Ive seen the first two get built up when the prototype had plug molds.

Its interesting. I will be watching. and please finish the project. lol.
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Any updates on this?
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I just spoke to CJ. He had a few medical issues to take care of but will be posting some progress pics shortly.
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Just a bump to see if this build is still on-going.

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Well how is it coming??!!!
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Hi Everyone, lets get back to the build
Here's just a few small things I ran into during the assembly process.
I thought that it may be more important to give you some of the details, rather than just the big items.


Old Radio Antenna lead to fender assembly, I'm not sure what to do with this yet, maybe stub it out?
One of the local guys told me to mount a small fiber antenna inside the fender.


This is the gas filler line that has to be extended to the new fender panel.
The wire is a ground strap for static electricity when you fill the gas, it needs to stay in place.
My plan is to cut off the filler top and add a piece of flex line held in place with clamps to the new fender.


Door panel rods, one for lock and one for door handle.


My Lucky Black Dragon Fly on the Card Hood, wandered in and stayed all day...
It landed on four or five of the car body parts

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I wanted to relocate the battery, so I purchased a battery box from V8 Archie, It was easy to install.
I used painters tape to lay it out, this cuts easily. You have to work around the break line, it's just under the panel, so be careful not to cut it.
I strapped the line back to the new battery box with tie straps after installation.


This is the installation layout on the car panel 10" wide by 11" tall.
Hint: I measured the 10" cut between the break line mounts


They include good instructions on a CD, the unit is not pre-drilled for mounting.
I installed 4 screws on each of the four sides with self locking nuts (12 screws)


I used 1/4" x 3/4" bolts with fender washers to add strength.
I picked up #2 wire for the new battery cable wires.


I sprayed rustproofing on the steel that I welded on the frame along with any cut open edges

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Someone asked for pics farther away from the car with no body.


Front pic, I have already started masking the car off for priming


Rear View, you can see factory inner fender wells are still installed.
New fender well extensions are included with the kit and mount directly to the factory pieces.
Overlap the factory wells so you don't see the exposed edge.


Side view, I also rustproofed any chassis areas that looked a little scratched.

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Front Hood


To mount the new hood you use the factory hinges. You can adjust the bottom of the hinge left to right and up and down.
I purchased SS 1 3/4" Bolts to attach the hood to the brackets.


This is the factory hood support bracket, I used the factory screws to reattach.

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Prepping body panels
I used 3m red the green body filler to touch up and body imperfections.
With two colors it was easier to see the fill spots before I sprayed on the primer.


Rear Body Panel


Front clip


Rear Bumper Panel, first coat of white sealer before the 2k buff primer was sprayed

I used 220 to dry sand and 320 to wet sand

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Preparing for the Summer Car Shows



This is a Hat I had made to match the car, I’ll have to work on a T-Shirt next.

If you haven't guessed, I'm painting the car Yellow and black.

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Cool! I don't know if you have followed my thread or not but here is an idea for black and yellow I was playing around with



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Originally posted by Mikitcarman:

Old Radio Antenna lead to fender assembly, I'm not sure what to do with this yet, maybe stub it out?
One of the local guys told me to mount a small fiber antenna inside the fender.


On my stock Fiero I relocated the stock antenna to inside the fender. If you turn the bracket 90 degrees to the frame rail you can run the antenna alongside the fender. Then it's just a matter of using some flat bar stock to make a bracket to hold the top of the antenna in place. I know that with the Lizardo you lose some of the front frame rail when you have to cut it for clearance, so yes you may look into getting some sort of shorter antenna if you're wishing to keep the antenna without it being visible.
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85SEnochie I like your Basic Yellow and Black Layout. I was staring out with this......


I was given this toy car for my birthday, it thought it was a nice design.
I'm trying to do something with this layout so the stripes will work on the car and stay within the upper and lower body lines.
It may be to much stripping?

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85SEnochie I like your Basic Yellow and Black Layout. I was staring out with this......


I was given this toy car for my birthday, it thought it was a nice design.
I'm trying to do something with this layout so the stripes will work on the car and stay within the upper and lower body lines.
It may be to much stripping?



Something like this?

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85SEnochie that is fantastic, nice work!!! Thank You.

Well, what do you think, is it to much

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85SEnochie that is fantastic, nice work!!! Thank You.

Well, what do you think, is it to much



You are welcome! If that's what you want that's what matters most it's your dream not mine anything that breaks up the side is good so that it does not look so much like a brick from the side Don't get me wrong I think the Liz it is a sweet ride but from the direct side angle it looks like a brick That is why I was breaking up the yellow in the first place and thought it looked cool too.

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Rear Window


The back fiberglass extends over the rear glass panel on the left and right side about 8"
I masked off the car and sprayed the glass so that you cannot see back into the fender area from inside the car.


I used tape along the edge of the fiberglass when the rear panels were in place.
I tried different methods to cover this, but the high gloss black paint on the glass looked the best.
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The next part of the process is to take all the parts on the car and pre-fit the entire body. Aligning all the spaces and all the parts so they flow as a nicely built car.
Then I used black Automotive #10 - 3/4" and 1" screws to secure the panels down,

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Here are the tires and wheels that I picked out.


These are based on Mustang rims so that the spacing is correct for my 2" spacers
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Looking good, thanks for keeping us to date on this one!
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Body Pic Time


Initial view of body panels setting in place


The new tires are a little wider than the originals!


Starting to look like a car!!


You can see that the door panel is not perfectly lined up, I'm changing the inside top of the fender panel to correct the front of the door.


Now it's time to make fun of my old style spoiler
I'm building the spoiler to look like the raised lift design type, I just like the way this style profiles on the car.....
I took this picture to check if the height is correct, It looks to clear the deck - just right.

The double chrome tale pipes have to go, the pipes will come through the two fender ports when its done.

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NICE! looking good thanks for keeping us up to date on your Liz.

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A couple of repair areas to match panels
Any body kit has to be matched up to the car, this kit actually lined very good with little repairs.
This is my third kit and I was having fun with alignment.
If your going to build it yourself, I recommend to pay the extra to the guys at Fiero Fiberglass and get the panels pre-drilled.
It will save you a lot of time and effort.


I had a 3/8" gap to the window trim, I filled with Fiber-tec.


Lines look ok, spacing is better.


The right side of the hood didn't match, so I filled it. After setting all the other panels, it was easier to fix it than try moving it again.

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I guess it's time to talk about the electrical
This information can be found other places in the forum, so this is basic info


The kit comes with new tail lights, side lights, front head lights and turn signals.
There is some left over wires, so I'm going to hook up some LED parking lights under the car.

Rear Drivers Side:
Driving Lights - Brown/Black
Break Lights - Lt Blue/Black
Left Turn - Yellow/Black
Backup Lights - Light Green/Black
Running Lights - Brown with White/Black

Rear Passenger Side:
Driving Lights - Brown/Black
Break Lights - Lt Blue/Black
Right Turn - Green/Black
Backup Lights - Light Green/Black
Running Lights - Brown with White/Black

Front Driver Side:
Head Lights - Light Green/Black for Hi Beam, Tan/Black for Low Beam
Turn Signal - Dark Blue/Black
Running Lights - Brown/Black

Front Passenger Side:
Head Lights - Light Green/Black for Hi Beam, Tan/Black for Low Beam
Turn Signal - Light Blue/Black
Running Lights - Brown/Black


The pictured lights came with the kit, they have a 5 color LED ring - Blue


Yellow to match the car


Red, you get the picture

I wired them up so the Led's come on with the low beam and the center Bulbs come on with the high beams.
I detached the black and white from center bulb and connect them to the head light connector, the controller only changes the LED to the five different colors

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This is "Buff" primer on the body
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I sprayed the original Fiero body parts with sealer before I primed.


Dupont White 2K lacquer sealer
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Your teasing us with this 1 picture a week posts. LOL
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My Lucky Black Dragon Fly on the Card Hood, wandered in and stayed all day...
It landed on four or five of the car body parts



Its a sign man, now you need to paint a small dragon fly somewhere on the car!

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Painted Panels

To paint the finish colors I purchased an Eastwood Concours HVLP spray gun with 1.2, 1.4, 1.8 tips
Have to say that this gun operates at low CMF and is easy to use, I recommend this spray gun for any level of car builder.
The Teflon paint cup liner makes this gun fast and easy to clean.
The 1.8 tip is for the primer a 2K urethane Buff, the 1.4 tip is for the urethane Yellow and black and the 1.2 tip is for the clear.


Front clip bottom panel


Under door panels


Main Body


Front Hood before the black was added.


Trunk Lid

You may be asking why there is a big hole in the trunk?

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So, why is there a big hole in the trunk?
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Looks great!
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Thanks for asking! It's the escape hatch-- LOL

I'm adding a black glass panel over the engine.... It should add a little style.

This will go nicely with my Black accents, I also have some LED strips to back-light the area at night.


The trunk with the window sealed in it, I used black silicone so that it will have a dark edge when you look in the engine area from the outside of the car.

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This is a closeup of the car top, I epoxied and smoothed out the roof seam.

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Rear Window


I masked off the car and sprayed the glass so that you cannot see back into the fender area from inside the car.




In time you may find that the paint will start to crack or peel away, unless you scuffed the window surface or used an etching paint. If you still have acess to the area, you could use several layers of limousine window tint. The darkest you can get. Or somewhere down the road if the paint does start to crack or peel, just apply a layer or two on the inside of the rear window, cut to size to fit that area.

I love 86SEnochie's first color layout and also the last one with the stripes, but for my taste, I'd go with the chrome wheels instead of the black and yellow.

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if you use PPG K36 as a base on the glass it wont come off. its a etching primer and will not come off glass.
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Guys, thanks for the helpful feedback. I don't want to paint to come off. So I'll take off the paint and respray with etching primer.

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Just remember that whatever color you spray down onto the glass, that is the color you will see from the inside of the car. If you spray a Black etching primer as the base then there is no need to even spray paint on top of it cause you won't see it from the outside of the car anyway. The inside will appear to be gloss cause of the glass.
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