I sit typing this using stolen electricity on my buddy's laptop illegally using internet from my cellphone while watching a tv powered by more stolen electricity. why? my dad is too much of a ***** to get an actual job. instead, he "works" at a bar, under the table, and hasnt been paid for months of work for the most part. his unemployment isnt going thru, and i have had to take off of work a lot in order to take care of stuff at home and because i dont have reliable transportation. so, we dont have money for cable. internet. electricity. rent. phone. food. apparently, our landlord is also running low on cash, and needs our rent to cover the bills for the building....so, if we dont pay the rent soon (which is already anywhere from 20 days late to 3 months late) im thinking we will be evicted. not to mention if we get caught using stolen electricity to power the tv, fridge, and phone chargers. i already went without electricity for 3 months in the past, and ive already been homeless for 1-2 years, was kinda hoping i was done with that. Kinda thinking about chugging whats left of the Skyy in my room that my cousin gave me and the 12 bottles of Mike's cranberry my ex brought over. not for any other reason other than frustration. im not a drinker, i dont enjoy being drunk either.
in summary, if my dad had simply taken a McJob, i would have ramsespride's 86, my dad wouldnt owe me $900, my own apartment and electricity and food and cable and etc, a fulltime job, and wouldnt have to deal with my dads BSing around (and all the benefits that come along with the above mentioned things). that is all it would have taken. a simple shi**y job he was too proud to take, so he lived off unemployment for over a year, would have prevented all this. and id be happy, and far more pleasant to be around.
sorry its written really bad, ive had a tad bit of alcohol and it has odd effects on me...namely, no matter the amount, small or large, it makes me VERY "frisky" and tired. and im in the process of winning over a girl ive wanted back at my side for 2 years (which would be easier if---well, just read the above paragraphs lol). so im a tad distracted
maryjane, dont fu** this thread up as well. dont care what your intentions are, i dont need you pissing me off as well. didnt wanna call you out, but didnt have much choice.
Id rather be homeless again than join the service. I don ha e the cash to move out yet. Because of him.
Wow their that bad to ya?
Any way, I think your not really trying hard enough and your letting him do it. Have you done everything in your power to get away? My best friend was having similar issues, he worked his ass off day in and out to get away. He stored every dollar he had and was able to move out in 2 months. He now has his own car, own apartment, full time job, and he goes to college. All he did was try hard enough and it took him about 5 months total. I know you were having issues of him taking from your account. Pay day comes Friday at like 1am correct, with direct deposit. So just wake up before he can do anything and withdraw it all and stash it somewhere safe.
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faaaaq Member
Posts: 3856 From: Madison WI, USA Registered: Sep 2009
I have already solved that issue with the account. But I am working plenty hard. I need to get reliable transportation before I can work enough hours to move out. It will take less than a month once I get a running vehicle of my own. But its because of him I donthave a running vehicle. I even told him if he lays to fix my car ill pretend he paid me all 900 he owes me.
Ff88 I work 20 miles away and that's if you take the beltline. Cant check the links now tho, on my phone. Checked the links. I have like $120 to my name..
And ramses I don't want to leave madison. My friends, my job, my dreamgirl, the school I want to attend, everything is here. I have a great job I just need a car. Can't afford the cheapest of cars right now tho. Looking forward to getting a paycheck higher than $200 :P
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FriendGregory Member
Posts: 4833 From: Palo Alto, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
Well, I am not Maryjane but, I will do my best. I can not speak from experience, I have had a pretty easy life. My parents were both fairly responsible and I was able to stay in their house after 18 by paying some rent(300 a month in 1984). Nobody messed with my stuff and I was able to try a few fields before sticking to a job for 13 years. I lived frugally after I realized that the bar scene was keeping me stagnate. I still want out and partied, just once a week, not 6. I bought my first house at 24.
Are you still under 18? If not, it may be your turn to tell all that are keeping you from advancing your life that you need to try something else for a while and you will see them when you are ready to impress them. My brother was kicked out of the family house at 15 and moved in with his teacher long enough to get an apartment. My buddy seen the writing on the wall and after he graduated at almost 17 asked his sister and brother in law to move in. In both of these cases, they ended up leaving most of what was familiar and started a new life that blossomed.
I suspect your over 18, the title for your life is yours. You can choose to leave your life in the crumbling storage and continue to see it slowly go away or you can drive it around and put it to the common risks of the world, modifying it to meet your personality.
Now go beg someone for couch to sleep on for one to 2 months, promise to wash all dishes and vacuum weekly and keep your stuff in one large box in the corner. Something like this should be possible, there are other possibilities!
How did I do MJ?
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faaaaq Member
Posts: 3856 From: Madison WI, USA Registered: Sep 2009
How are things happening in your life your Dads fault?
You are sitting there drinking because you are unhappy, learn to stand on your own feet, and not use alcohol as a crutch. I suggest AA for the first step in that.
You openly admit that you are "forced" to steal electricity to power a TV, laptop, and cell phone. none of those are even necessary for survival, your priorities are so messed up Lindsey Lohan is wondering what you are doing.
Sober up, pack your crap, and take off walking until you find a real job. Stop blaming your problems on people that have their own. Man up, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
From what I gather you are an adult, and you work for a living. Why are you broke?
Brad
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looks like its time to grow up and take responsibility for ones own actions.
i did not get a chance to move out. a week before i turned 18, my mom packed up and moved across the country leaving me by myself guess what... if i wanted a roof over my head i had to work!
I dont want to be paying to feed or house you in jail. be a man, and figure it out. if your dad hasn't figured it out by now, he probably wont.
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Posts: 10652 From: Virginia Beach, Virginia Registered: Feb 2007
Neg me if you want, I don't care, but somebody's got to say it, because this isn't the first time you've said these things.
You're a wallower. You sit and b'ch about how hard life is, but I have never seen any initiative on your part from any of your posts about these issues. You "just need this one thing" and everything will be better and then you can do it on your own, but that one thing (whatever it is this week) never comes becuase you sit on your a$$ and wait for a handout.
Your life supposedly sucks, but its better than serving your country. Life sucks where you live, but its better than moving anywhere else. Your llife sucks because....Its a never ending cycle with you.
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cliffw Member
Posts: 37877 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
My brother and I moved out while still attending high school. Got an apartment and still attended high school though I did drop out. My brother did graduate. We didn't like life (Dad's rule) so we made our own life. Tell me/us again why you can't ?
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Originally posted by faaaaq: in summary, if my dad had simply taken a McJob, blaqh blah blah and wouldnt have to deal with my dads BSing around. That is all it would have taken. a simple shi**y job he was too proud to take, would have prevented all this. and id be happy, and far more pleasant to be around.
Oh, I see. You still are depending on others to make you happy.
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Originally posted by faaaaq: My friends, my job, my dreamgirl, the school I want to attend, everything is here.
, sounds like you are scared. What is it you do for a job ?
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Posts: 4543 From: Martinez, Ga, USA Registered: Oct 1999
maryjane, dont fu** this thread up as well. dont care what your intentions are, i dont need you pissing me off as well. didnt wanna call you out, but didnt have much choice.
I can see where being reminded that the only person responsible for your situation is you could ruin your thread! LOL
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Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by twofatguys: How are things happening in your life your Dads fault?
You are sitting there drinking because you are unhappy, learn to stand on your own feet, and not use alcohol as a crutch. I suggest AA for the first step in that.
You openly admit that you are "forced" to steal electricity to power a TV, laptop, and cell phone. none of those are even necessary for survival, your priorities are so messed up Lindsey Lohan is wondering what you are doing.
Sober up, pack your crap, and take off walking until you find a real job. Stop blaming your problems on people that have their own. Man up, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
From what I gather you are an adult, and you work for a living. Why are you broke?
Brad
yes - hate to say it - but it seems much the problem is trying to maintain appearances & lifestyle beyond your means. it maybe time to select a new roomate?
Stop drinking, stop using crutches. Stop blaming your dad. (even if ye deserves it) Focus on fixing/creating YOUR life, think that girl is gonna want to stay with you if you aren't a 'man'? (Not saying you run around whining in real life)
Believe me, I've done my share of whining, I also didn't have a terribly hard life, some bouts of the normal human suckiness, but you hafta learn to patch up the wound, tie some newspaper around it to make a splint, and move forward.
The LAST thing you wanna be is a middle aged guy whining about his dad.
Not saying you need to join the armed forces, there are plenty of other options for you. here's the thing:
If you sit there and have a negative mindset and *insert bad habit here* and complain about things, you tend to miss opportunitities. Being positive and 'clear headed' receptive to things makes you more aware of possiblities. Also makes you better able to handle (most of ) the bumps when they appear in front of ya.
And try to keep in mind that there's more to life then what everyone else is doing.
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84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
So it is dads fault he can’t get a job at McD’s?
I know people now, right here who have been looking for jobs for many, many months.
What’s wrong with you getting a job?
He is working from what you said, under the table but working. What are you doing for work?
If you are working then what’s wrong with staying at the YMCA? Cheap from what I remember and clean if you keep it that way.
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Originally posted by faaaaq: I even told him if he lays to fix my car ill pretend he paid me all 900 he owes me.
How many years have you been living with dad? Just how much do you think he has spent on you? Not trying to be a prick but I have a 35 year old daughter who only calls when she needs money.
Internet and cell phones are luxuries. When did it become a necessity for a 12 year old to have a cell phone? Not talking about you in that case but they are to most a luxury.
If he works at a bar and hasn’t been paid in months why is he still there? Does he also have a drinking problem? Or is he just getting tips?
Sorry but I know the job market sucks and those here who have jobs think it doesn’t they have no clue.
If you are working get out.
Steve
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I think most of what I would say has been said. But get a second or third job, drop the cell service, internet, etc. Cut all expenses... only buy what you have to and don't get into a contract. You are an adult, time to act like one. There are people who come to this country with nothing, except for ambition and determination, yet they succeed. Time to pick yourself up and take control your life.
Well, I am not Maryjane but, I will do my best. I can not speak from experience, I have had a pretty easy life. My parents were both fairly responsible and I was able to stay in their house after 18 by paying some rent(300 a month in 1984). Nobody messed with my stuff and I was able to try a few fields before sticking to a job for 13 years. I lived frugally after I realized that the bar scene was keeping me stagnate. I still want out and partied, just once a week, not 6. I bought my first house at 24.
Are you still under 18? If not, it may be your turn to tell all that are keeping you from advancing your life that you need to try something else for a while and you will see them when you are ready to impress them. My brother was kicked out of the family house at 15 and moved in with his teacher long enough to get an apartment. My buddy seen the writing on the wall and after he graduated at almost 17 asked his sister and brother in law to move in. In both of these cases, they ended up leaving most of what was familiar and started a new life that blossomed.
I suspect your over 18, the title for your life is yours. You can choose to leave your life in the crumbling storage and continue to see it slowly go away or you can drive it around and put it to the common risks of the world, modifying it to meet your personality.
Now go beg someone for couch to sleep on for one to 2 months, promise to wash all dishes and vacuum weekly and keep your stuff in one large box in the corner. Something like this should be possible, there are other possibilities!
How did I do MJ?
Not bad, but he already knows all that, he just hasn't had it bad enough yet to take action. It will soon be out of his hands, as soon as the landlord or utility company finds out he is using someone else's electricity, or when the rent becomes past due enough the landlord evects them. The problem with living your dreams is the same in life as it is with sleep--it frequently includes nightmares and we all know the only way out of a nightmare is to wake up.
Faaq--You are in an untenable situation and you know this. You are unwillingly, (but knowingly) enabling your father's lifestyle, and have been for awhile. Get out thru any avenue possible--period--you can't help him. You are age of majority, and as such, can no longer blame all your misfortunes on him. It's a crappy hand sure enough, but the one you were dealt. Time to fold 1. You once stated you were going to borrow $ from an aunt--if she is local, can you move in with her?
2. Forget dreams--you can't afford them--it's unfortunate but true at this stage. They are called dreams for an obvious reason, (they are almost always unattainable) . You are fixated on them, allowing them to limit your options, when instead, you should focus on goals, both short term and long term, which can be attainable if most emphasis is placed on short term neccessity (get out).
3. Most here have offered you good advice--take it and stop looking for excuses not to. You reject the military out of hand for whateverr reason, but you won't be living in that cardboard box homeless for long before you see some sailor or coastguardsman walk by with a girl on his arm, in clean clothes, knowing he is living in a nice warm barracks, with 3 good meals/day, good pay and putting money in the bank each month. You chide your father for not taking the "Mcjob" he doesn't want (tho he badly needs to) then you turn around and cast off the easiest and most obvious answer to your own problems. You don't have to make it a career, just use it to get on your feet, while also expanding your horizons and gaining an education. You can go back to Madison afterwards and pursue your dreams.
4. The 'dreamgirl' ? Can't help ya, but know this. It's very likely, you will lose her anyway if you don't get on your feet. We all, had a dreamgirl. Some of us more than one, It's tough, but most of us eventually ended up with one we wouldn't trade for 100 of what we thought was perfect at the time.
5. Quit worrying about the newest generation iPhone, camera, etc. You are working a part time job--try finding a 2nd part time one--hopefully on the route "home" (and I use that term hesitantly) so you can just go straight from one to the next without incurring extra travel expense. If you are working 8 hrs, but just a few days a week, find a waiter's job somewhere--tips usually add up to a fairly good income.
But===Again/ get out---on the next thing smokin'.
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Not bad, but he already knows all that, he just hasn't had it bad enough yet to take action. It will soon be out of his hands, as soon as the landlord or utility company finds out he is using someone else's electricity, or when the rent becomes past due enough the landlord evects them. The problem with living your dreams is the same in life as it is with sleep--it frequently includes nightmares and we all know the only way out of a nightmare is to wake up.
Faaq--You are in an untenable situation and you know this. You are unwillingly, (but knowingly) enabling your father's lifestyle, and have been for awhile. Get out thru any avenue possible--period--you can't help him. You are age of majority, and as such, can no longer blame all your misfortunes on him. It's a crappy hand sure enough, but the one you were dealt. Time to fold 1. You once stated you were going to borrow $ from an aunt--if she is local, can you move in with her?
2. Forget dreams--you can't afford them--it's unfortunate but true at this stage. They are called dreams for an obvious reason, (they are almost always unattainable) . You are fixated on them, allowing them to limit your options, when instead, you should focus on goals, both short term and long term, which can be attainable if most emphasis placed on short term neccessity (get out).
3. Most here have offered you good advice--take it and stop looking for excuses not to. You reject the military out of hand for whateverr reason, but you won't be living in that cardboard box homeless for long before you see some sailor or coastgaurdsman walk by with a girl on his arm, in clean clothes, knowing he is living in a nice warm barracks, with 3 good meals/day, good pay and putting money in the bank each month. You chide your father for not taking a "Mcjob" he doesn't want (tho he badly needs to) then you turn around and cast off the easiest and most obvious answer to your own problems. You don't have to make it a career, just use it to get on your feet, while also expanding your horizons and gaining an education. You can go back to Madison afterwards and pursue your dreams.
4. The 'dreamgirl' ? Can't help ya, but know this. It's very likely, you will lose her anyway if you don't get on your feet. We all, had a dreamgirl. Some of us more than one, It's tough, but most of us eventually ended up with one we wouldn't trade for 100 of what we thought was perfect at the time.
5. Quit worrying about the newest generation iPhone, camera, etc. You are working a part time job--try finding a 2nd part time one--hopefully on the route "home" (and I use that term hesitantly) so you can just go straight from one to the next without incurring extra travel expense. If you are working 8 hrs, but just a few days a week, find a waiter's job somewhere--tips usually add up to a fairly good income.
But===Again/ get out---on the next thing smokin'.
MJ, he hasn't had it hard yet... He is a whiny little spoiled ***** . Let's look at this: You are stealing electricity. You are over 18 and live at home. You think you know it all, you don't. You are mad because your dad won't work at McDonald's, yet you wouldn't honor your country and join the armed forces. Which pay, feed, board and get you out of this situation. You really have served society well. You aren't poor, you are a mooch. You have a laptop, cellular services, TV and think stealing electricity and squatting on someone's property is justified. As I have said before, I'm not going to get into a poverty pissing contest. I grew up poor, as I am sure many others here did. I am not going to tell you I am better than you or anything like that. I've worked everyday since I was 16. 10 years ago the things I dreamed of are nothing of what I actually have. I'm extremely grateful and for how far I have come from where I could have been.
My opinion... You are an ungrateful and spoiled punk kid with entitlement issues. You are too lazy and stupid to change the things you ***** about. You aren't a man, you most likely won't keep that girl (based upon what we have read you don't deserve her). Unless she is like you, then you two will be perfect together. Most likely you are going to end up another drain on society for the rest of us to pay for. I appreciate the men and women who have given their lives for pieces of **** like you to mooch of the rest of us.
Think I am being harsh guys? This clown needs to take some notes from FieroFanaticus2. I wish there were more of him and less of you...
My parents made myself and brothers leave right after graduation. I graduated when I turned 17 and moved out 8 days later and lived with a buddy for a few months until I got a job that paid well enough to pay him back and pay my rent. I worked at Sears warehouse on 3rd shift then went to Tuffy 45 minutes after my shift ended and worked from 8am to 11:30am. I had to do that for almost 2 years before I joined the military (the best decision I made).
Life doesn't meet anyone half way, there are plenty of low income housing options through the state in most areas where they will help you temporarily until you get on your feet. Your priorities are not in order judging from your comments.
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Tony Kania Member
Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
Faaaq, when things are rough, it seems like they are the end of the world. I have proven time and time again that I am willing to offer up help to anyone. Whether it be money, food, or shelter. I just cannot help everyone. Heck, I have spent many a homeless night in my van in Detroit. As a matter of fact, over 5 months. Not counting the too numerous to count times that I had crashed on a friends couch. Admittedly, you have it rough right now. But, IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE ON LIFE, you can never change your life. One thing to remember is that there are folks out there that are worse off than you and I. Only those that pull themselves up by their boot strings, will succeed.
A lot of good advice from this forum. I suggest that you listen to it.
Good luck,
Tony
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WhiteDevil88 Member
Posts: 8518 From: Coastal California Registered: Mar 2007
I read through your lengthy description of your pathetic life of mooching and petty larceny, and then you had to go and post this;
"maryjane, dont fu** this thread up as well. dont care what your intentions are, i dont need you pissing me off as well. didnt wanna call you out, but didnt have much choice."
Wow. I'm stunned. I am literally stunned that you would be so incredibly disrespectful. Perhaps it is because I have met Mr. Don York that I cannot imagine anyone having the... whatever it takes to direct such unjustified... Ahhh! My head is exploding.
You know all that stupid meme about Chuck Norris and all of his bad ass-ness? Don York has done all that stuff for real. "Call of Duty"? He lived that sh1t. United States Marine Corps. Volunteered during the Viet Nam war. He is no pu$sy, and you provoke him at your peril. I wouldn't be caught standing anywhere near you after that stunt. Good thing you don't own sh1t, you won't need a will !
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Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
Assuming the young man is of legal age, what with his references to alcohol, military service and the like, I am reminded of something my grandmother used to tell us on a regular basis:
"0-to-18, I HAVE to.... but after 18, I have to WANT to."
You're old enough to assume responsibility for your own life. If you choose not to, you have no one else to blame.
Go for it.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 10037 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
Id rather be homeless again than join the service. And that's far from moving out on my own. I don ha e the cash to move out yet. Because of him.
I don't understand this... please explain it to me?
I had to make a VERY difficult decision for myself when I was unemployed to decide why I WOULDN'T want to join the armed forces...
The ONLY reason why I didn't join the NAVY, was because of three major reasons:
1 - I was just offered a very well paying job with a large corporation working in my career field. 2 - I was in a serious relationship with my girlfriend at the time whom I thought I might end up marrying (which I did, and we've been married for 5 years) 3 - I was already 25, and that's starting to get a little bit old for the military to start at the ground level.
I like the direction my life has taken, I've had a lot of support from family, friends, and myself.
BUT... if things weren't working out, and I was still really young... 19-23... I would have definitely gone in the military.
The most obvious benefit of the military of course is knowing personally that you've sacrificed for your country. Plain and simple... whether you end up loading munitions, or storming a beach... you put yourself out there at the mercy of the United States to protect it's freedoms.
Aside from that, there are also lots of other benefits that help you become a more well rounded citizen. You get paid, for one, and secondly, they pay for your college education. You ALSO get beneficial treatment (rightly so) when being considered for a job (government and often in private industry). People know that more than likely, when you get an HONORABLE discharge from the military, you're a confident, and responsible adult that's not afraid to work hard to get the job done.
An applicant can have all the skills in the world, but if they have a bad attitude, they're worthless.
I can't believe you would simply forgo such a great opportunity. Not only that but you'll end up seeing the world too.
Only one person has the power to change the situation, and no its not your father.
If i was in that sitaution myself at your age, i wouldn't discount the military so quickly. Instant food, board, training, AND money for college after you get out. And what is a term these days, 4 years? That's nothing.
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
Just re-read this thread of yours, faaaaq https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/110778.html ...is it any wonder I, and others gave up trying to help you? I'm not being unkind, but...FJCS!! Did you expect somebody to drive over and do it for you??? I AM sorry to bring it up...and even more sorry that you couldn't even be bothered to answer, after 3 pages of people trying genuinely hard to get your car going. As everybody has said...follow the good advice (which costs you NOTHING) in this thread. I am working every night, standing in a street, trying to get people to go in and eat in the restaurant where Ellie works. Do I WANT to'?At the age of 64? Do I heck...but tell you what..I am DARNED glad to!! It crossed my mind for a moment, that it might be YOU driving your Dad to drink!! J/K...sort of...who really knows??? Except you and your Dad....
Sean doesn't drink. I mean that. He doesn't. So when I see that he's considering drinking, that's a big deal. I know you guys don't all realize that because it wasn't evident in his post, but that's the truth. His dad has taken money out of his account to pay for bills, and is a mooch off Sean. I think you all need to consider that Sean might be staying there because he honestly loves his dad to death and is helping him out. Because he does help his dad out.
Some of you seem to think he doesn't work? He does. He has a legitimate job.
Also, just because the Forces provide "a way out" in some situations, doesn't mean it's for everyone. It's not. And some people don't join for their own reasons. Doesn't mean they are any less of a man, they just have their [legitimate] reasons.
So even though some of you think you are giving "tough love" to someone who won't help themself, you aren't really. MJ actually had sound advice, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to ask MJ to stay out of it. Even though he should have done so WAY more respectfully.
But Sean, I do have some suggestions. First, sell your Android and get a P.O.S. and change your service to get far fewer minutes and NO internet on your phone. That will save a lot. Forget about Ashly for now. She's been single for 2 years and I know it's starting to look good but these guys are right... she wants a man. So if you tell her you need a month to get your sh!t together, she should understand. Ask some of the guys at your work if you can start carpooling. Then, you can get more hours. Forget about your dad owing you money. It's just extra stress you are carrying on your shoulders.
A month of real, hardcore saving should get you out of where you are. You can move in with your Aunt for free most likely. You can move in with a coworker or friend for cheap. Just another month til you save even more and move out of there. You can do it.
As always, you can message me on FB.
And if you aren't moved out within two months, then I take back defending you. Move out. It's the best solution.
sorry its written really bad, ive had a tad bit of alcohol and it has odd effects on me...namely, no matter the amount, small or large, it makes me VERY "frisky" and tired.
Apparently he does, and according to him has before. He knows the effects, and has a quantity on hand, someone is lying to somebody. (I'm not calling bDub a liar here)
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So when I see that he's considering drinking, that's a big deal. I know you guys don't all realize that because it wasn't evident in his post, but that's the truth. His dad has taken money out of his account to pay for bills, and is a mooch off Sean. I think you all need to consider that Sean might be staying there because he honestly loves his dad to death and is helping him out. Because he does help his dad out.
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Some of you seem to think he doesn't work? He does. He has a legitimate job.
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Also, just because the Forces provide "a way out" in some situations, doesn't mean it's for everyone. It's not. And some people don't join for their own reasons. Doesn't mean they are any less of a man, they just have their [legitimate] reasons.
If it's not a physical problem I believe it does make them less of a person, I'm sure I'm alone in that. Who says they would rather be homeless than in the military? Someone has serious authority issues. (which would be solved by joining the Military)
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So even though some of you think you are giving "tough love" to someone who won't help themself, you aren't really. MJ actually had sound advice, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to ask MJ to stay out of it. Even though he should have done so WAY more respectfully.
No, this is a public forum, if someone had asked me to stay out of the thread I would have used every childish bone in my body to put it in the trashcan. Yea, I can be childish, but I don't live off of my parents, or drown my problems with alcohol. I can afford to be childish from time to time. I'm really amazed that Mary Jane was as civil as he was when he posted, probably because he was in the Military, and has self control.
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As always, you can message me on FB.
Yea he could message me too, if he cares to man up and remove the block that has suddenly appeared. Very mature to just block a person for not agreeing with you. I was going to try and see what was going on, but suddenly I care very little.
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Originally posted by jimbolaya:
There's no more room at Brad's house.
Jim
No, there is room, but only for people that are willing to help themselves. I still got an empty bedroom, no drinking, or Juffalo'ing allowed however. If someone spends there time hating everything, how can they love themselves?
Brad
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10:34 PM
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Posts: 37877 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Alright, thanks for the insight. It was a needed buffer I think. Yet there is nothing wrong with drinking a problem away, ... for the moment. Not any different than going for a drive, punching the bag (boxing style), or any other kind of stress release. He has a legitimate job ? So do I. And ? The military was not for me either. Just because I grew up as a military brat. Moving all the time, always no/new friends acquaintances, seeing close knit families and mine spread out over the world (born in England). Yet, I had promising opportunities. If he had legitimate reasons for not joining the forces, he could have posted them. Being homeless instead of joining is not a legitimate reason.
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Originally posted by faaaaq: My friends, my job, my dreamgirl, the school I want to attend, everything is here.
Neither is a dream girl, . The school I want to attend ? It's just a course or two or three. It's just curriculum. He has to apply for a Man Card and let loose of the apron strings. Life was crappy for me too. Still is some times. So what ?
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Originally posted by theBDub: MJ actually had sound advice, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to ask MJ to stay out of it. Even though he should have done so WAY more respectfully.
I am not getting it. I do miss exchanges because I am away at work every other week, but, ... MJ has never disrespected anyone that I have ever seen. Sometimes the truth hurts and I have always seen him give it very respectfully. I did not understand him asking maryjane to stay out of it, nor do I understand why you think that was not unreasonable. Clue me in. Much respect for your post though theBDub. None of us is right. We just have insight. You have a little more relational insight which helps us. We just have personal reflections. As I posted in your thread, I have not had the time to give deep thought.
I am not getting it. I do miss exchanges because I am away at work every other week, but, ... MJ has never disrespected anyone that I have ever seen. Sometimes the truth hurts and I have always seen him give it very respectfully. I did not understand him asking maryjane to stay out of it, nor do I understand why you think that was not unreasonable. Clue me in. Much respect for your post though theBDub. None of us is right. We just have insight. You have a little more relational insight which helps us. We just have personal reflections. As I posted in your thread, I have not had the time to give deep thought.
From what I gather, MJ posts things that just get under Sean's skin. And Sean has voiced that several times. Even though I do believe that MJ always posts fairly and reasonably, I just also have this idea that considering Sean doesn't appreciate the way MJ talks to him, he has a right to request that MJ not post. I believe the way Sean asked was completely irresponsible, but I recognize the tough time he's been having.
I won't respond to anything else because that's for Sean to defend.
Good luck Sean
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11:42 PM
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Posts: 37877 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
none of those are even necessary for survival, your priorities are so messed up Lindsey Lohan is wondering what you are doing. 
, sounds like you are scared. What is it you do for a job ?
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J/K...sort of...who really knows??? Except you and your Dad....
