Important Notice: HUGE California Traffic Tickets Fines Effective 01/06/2010



The state of California is going for blood. I have been hearing that highway patrols are under pressure to issue a lot more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over 2009. Cash-straped California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the road while driving your Fiero! I'm not sure we're going slide by without of front license plate any more.

Traffic Tickets Fines (Effective 01/06/2010)

Violation
Total Fine Due

VC 12814.6
$214

Failure to obey license provisions.

VC 14600(A)
$214

Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 days

Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 16028(A)
$796

Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance)

Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the violation date.

VC 21453(A)
$436

Failure to stop at a red signal.

VC 22350
$214

VC 22349

Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit.

VC 22350
$328

VC 22349

Unsafe Speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit.

VC 22450
$214

Failure to stop at a stop sign.

VC 22454(A)
$616

Passing a school bus with flashing red signals.

VC 23123(A)
$148

Drive using wireless phone not hands free, First offense

VC 23123(A)
$256

Drive using wireless phone not hands free, For each subsequent offense.

VC 23123.5(A)
$148

Drive while wireless device to send, read or write text.

VC 23124(B)
$148

Minor drive using wireless phone.

VC 22500(I)
$976

Parking in a bus loading area.

VC 22507.8(A through C)
$976

Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense.

VC 22507.8(A through C)
$1876

Violation of disabled parking provisions, second offense.

VC 26708(A)
$178

Unlawful material on vehicle windows.

VC 27150(A and B)
$178

Adequate muffler required

VC 27315(D and E)
$148

Mandatory use of seat belts.

VC 27360(A and B)
$436

Mandatory use of child passenger restraints

Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program.

VC 27400
$178

Headsets/Earplugs over both ears.

VC 27803 (A through C)
$178

Motorcycle safety helmet requirements.

VC 34506.3
$616

Commercial Driver - Log book violation

VC 4000(A)
$256

No evidence of current registration.

Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 4159
$178

Notify DMV of change of address within 10 days.

Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 5200
$178

Display of license plates.

Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 9400 (A through C)
$178

Commercial weight fees due.

Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

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"Friends don't let their friends drive stock."

Thats horse sh*t how police do this. PA state trooprs have a blitz every few months in order to make some money when there low on funds mandadting that an officer has to pull someone over every 10 min. Its bullshit.

quote Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit. VC 22350 $328 VC 22349 Unsafe Speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit. VC 22450 $214

This one strike anyone else as "a bit odd" ?


Ok... After looking at it again, I think I'm reading it wrong. Still... Not cool.

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quote Originally posted by skuzzbomer: [QUOTE] Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit. VC 22350 $328 VC 22349 Unsafe Speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit. VC 22450 $214

This one strike anyone else as "a bit odd" ?[/QUOTE]

Yeah 1 mph? Over? Should be like 5-15 mph over.. Also the fines appear to be reversed? How does going faster result in a cheaper fine? Guess if you're going to speed GO FAAAAASTT! I love California..

Ooooo these fines have been screwed for a while! These are also base fines. You normally double that number and that's what you'll pay otd.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Passing a school bus with flashing red signals. VC 23123(A) $148 Parking in a bus loading area. VC 22507.8(A through C) $976

This is the one that gets me..... Passing a school bust is FAR more dangerous than many of the items listed. For sure more than parking in a bus loading area. The other fines are way too high in many cases, but passing a school bus should be at least 4 to 5 times what they has it listed as.

I'd have expected no registration to be far higher, they get revenue from registrations after all...

It time for another revolution

Ya gotta pay for all those social programs and illegal alien demands. Just as well have the scofflaws pay for them. Easy to avoid, don't break the rules of the road. Of course the courts will become clogged with traffic cases and you need more funding for more judges and courts.

HOW DO YOU LIVE OUT THERE. OHIO IS NOT 2 BAD. I WOULD GO BROKE OUT THERE.

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Thats horse sh*t how police do this. < snipped >

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How so horse crud? You agreed when you signed up for, took the test for, and was issued a drivers license to obey the laws that were written for public safety and motorized vehicle operation.

Your wanting to call BS on the fuzz enforcing the law that YOU agreed to obey? If you don't want to obey the laws that have been set, turn in your DL, sell the car and look into a bus pass. Newsflash, if they are ABLE to pull over a car every ten minets, what does that say - I'd think it be that there are quite a few that are breaking the law, and their contract with the state.

Possibly a few more tickets would get people to slow down, get & maintain insurance, all the while actually paying attention to I dunno.... DRIVING?

quote Originally posted by flydeep: It time for another revolution

Obedience to legal statutes agreed upon once the DL is signed kinda revolution? Somehow I don't think this is your intent.

Going broke by living in California due to the increasing fines imposed by the DMV is 100% avoidable - its called obeying the traffic laws.

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quote Originally posted by R Runner: This is the one that gets me..... Passing a school bust is FAR more dangerous than many of the items listed. For sure more than parking in a bus loading area. The other fines are way too high in many cases, but passing a school bus should be at least 4 to 5 times what they has it listed as.

Look at it again guys. The fine is listed above the offence.

the problem is not breaking the law but laws that server no purpose or serve to ensnare the public and therefore violating the public trust. Police exist to serve the public trust not view it as a source of revenue. Some traffic laws are so absurdly not needed and their existence only further serves to show their intent to ticket and harass the people they are sworn to protect. There is a reason for speed limits yes but did you ever go why on earth is this straight road in the middle of nowhere 25 miles and hour? its so they can ticket people for trying to get where then need to go at a reasonable speed instead of some contrived pieced of idiocy.

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I wish CA would secede from the union so that the rest of us would not have to put up with that West Coast BS.

What is really crazy is with these fines, people still drive like crap. Just last week, I had to yield with the right of way because the car coming at me was texting and ran a stop sign.

quote Originally posted by Brastic: What is really crazy is with these fines, people still drive like crap. Just last week, I had to yield with the right of way because the car coming at me was texting and ran a stop sign.

Exactly....like they say, it's only illegal if you get caught.

quote Originally posted by Macs86GT: but did you ever go why on earth is this straight road in the middle of nowhere 25 miles and hour?

You got caught there too?
Hahhaha!
About 10 years ago was riding my motorcycle thru San Diego on I5 going 80 MPH in the slow lane and was the slowest person out there. Everybody else was at least 5-10 MPH faster. Wonder how the CHP deals with speeders?

quote Originally posted by mcaanda: How so horse crud? You agreed when you signed up for, took the test for, and was issued a drivers license to obey the laws that were written for public safety and motorized vehicle operation. Your wanting to call BS on the fuzz enforcing the law that YOU agreed to obey?

In a perfect world I agree with you.

But in the real world the laws are written in an arbitrary and capricious manner and they are selectively enforced. For example in Texas we have many 6 lane divided highways where the speed limit is 45 or 50 mph when it should be at least 65 mph. Of course everybody drives at 65 mph and there you are one day minding your own business driving to wherever and suddenly you fall into a speed trap and BAM! you have a ticket. It has nothing to do with safety or protecting children in a school zone or anything except revenue generation.

On the contrary there are some 2 lane roads where the speed limit is 70 mph with driveways and blind corners it's ridiculous.

quote Originally posted by RACE: I wish CA would secede from the union so that the rest of us would not have to put up with that West Coast BS.

Seconded

And I thought Illinois was bad!!! But they steal from us in enough other ways here.

32 yrs living in So Cal. was 31 to many...Thank the lord for my quiet little town...we can cruise the streets with a hilborn injected hemi if we want...no smog laws...no stress...

This same crap was tried here in VA, the people told the state gov't to stick it, and they repealed the most of the fines. Power to the people!!!!!!!

Oh you can keep California..... Live there for a couple years when I was in the US Coast Guard and Stationed in Sacramento.. Crazy laws, crazy taxes, cops on every corner, it is a real mess..... If it were not such a beautiful place with some rather amazing countryside I would have really hated it.... My wife is from there and it seems like every time we talk to her father who still lives out there he is bitching about another fee or tax of crazy local ordinance that is making him crazy..... Yeah you can keep that state.... I have lived in a bunch of different places and never really seen that kind of reach into your pocket at every turn mentality... peace

Pete

quote Originally posted by qwikgta: This same crap was tried here in VA, the people told the state gov't to stick it, and they repealed the most of the fines. Power to the people!!!!!!!

The problem here with repealing anything is that the citizens are pu$$ies, hippies, or just nature freaks. They don't have the guts to vote and repeal anything. They just go with the flow. Believe me, I have attended many town meetings and very few people show up to repeal anything so the changes go on as planned.

Nice.

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IMHO I think CA will continue to go broke due in part to citizens tightening down on frivolous driving habits or after a (they) get ticketed or know someone who did. Once that happens... where will law makers make-up for lost revenues? Trust me- they will continue to find ways of gouging citizens (some way- some how) as in the case with the Bay Area bridges to which I make sure I don't cross over any more; that in-turn means lost of revenue for business I'd might have patronized.

As for me- I've been driving for nearly 34 yrs and I've only been ticketed once. The fine was $55 bucks or so for going over the speed limit by 10 mph and that was over 11 yrs ago and once last year for a modified exhaust and the fine was $179 bucks, but I removed the exhaust and paid the city $25 (processing fee). During which far more serious crimes were being committed while three of San Mateo's finest officers stood around.

Can someone explain this?

Why this is......
Unsafe Speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit.

VC 22350
$328

and this...

Parking in a bus loading area.

VC 22507.8(A through C)
$976

and this.....

Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense.

VC 22507.8(A through C)
$1876

Is more than this.....

Passing a school bus with flashing red signals.

VC 23123(A)
$148

Is a childs life pretty much worthless out there or does CA have their priorities mixed up?

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Maybe disabled people are usually royally piss if they find you parked in their stalls and bus drivers.... well they have unions. They are always pissed, hehe. j/k

Seriously, I don't know, but then again going over 1 mph over the speed limit and receiving a ticket is absurd. IMO anything over 5 mph should be the norm, but I'm too.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Seriously, I don't know, but then again going over 1 mph over the speed limit and receiving a ticket is absurd. IMO anything over 5 mph should be the norm, but I'm too.

The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.

quote Originally posted by Cooter: The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.

Unless they tag you with the latest LIDAR speed detector, (and even then I still think it's possible) you can fight a ticket for 1 over the limit and win... The margin of error on RADAR/LIDAR units and vehicle speedometers is at least 1MPH.. sometimes up to 5 MPH combined margin of error...

Fellas,
For all of you who have not lived here, understand me: This place sucks because of our liberal (sic) legislature. For the past 40 years, ever since the liberal partisans took over, a.k.a. unions strong arm tactics, the slant has been on "Pay me" or I'll organize a counter measure against your business whereby you will never vote against my union again! Yup, it is called extorsion. This tactic was practiced for years in Chagao-land politics. The driving fines, we are now aware of, are due to these 40+ years of one sided pay-offs to the muscle of the unions. The result is no cash for other essential municipal needs. The liberal view is that there is always money to be had from those are now aware of how things are really done.

Cordially,
Kevin

quote Originally posted by Cooter: The town I work in will write you a ticket for 1 MPH over the speed limit (30 mph). There are only a handful of businesses in the community, so the tax base is pretty low and they get a lot of revenue from creative enforcement of the law.

Please tell me your kidding, right? 1-mph over the speed limit??? What's the fine for going 1-mph over the posted speed? I'll make sure not to stop and get gas in that town, hehe.

all towns will right you up for going 1mph over the limit.

Also if you have a nice looking car....heh gl not getting a ticket...and in ny if you go 40mph over the limit you are fined, loose license and then go to jail...

Still say women should not drive or be segrated into a bumper lane like they have at the bowling ally...-mindless rants how he's been hit or almost hit by 5 plus women-

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quote Originally posted by kevin: Fellas, For all of you who have not lived here, understand me: This place sucks because of our liberal (sic) legislature. For the past 40 years, ever since the liberal partisans took over, a.k.a. unions strong arm tactics, the slant has been on "Pay me" or I'll organize a counter measure against your business whereby you will never vote against my union again! Yup, it is called extorsion. This tactic was practiced for years in Chagao-land politics. The driving fines, we are now aware of, are due to these 40+ years of one sided pay-offs to the muscle of the unions. The result is no cash for other essential municipal needs. The liberal view is that there is always money to be had from those are now aware of how things are really done. Cordially, Kevin

looks like you have been listening to too much rightwing crapaganda It's no wonder states are scrambling to make ends meet after the "mismanagement" carried on by the GOP in the past decade and beyond. Ok enough, If you want to make this a partisan political issue please post it in OT where it belongs, thanks...I'll Be Back

Gray Davis where are you?

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quote Originally posted by jscott1: In a perfect world I agree with you. But in the real world the laws are written in an arbitrary and capricious manner and they are selectively enforced. For example in Texas we have many 6 lane divided highways where the speed limit is 45 or 50 mph when it should be at least 65 mph. Of course everybody drives at 65 mph and there you are one day minding your own business driving to wherever and suddenly you fall into a speed trap and BAM! you have a ticket. It has nothing to do with safety or protecting children in a school zone or anything except revenue generation. On the contrary there are some 2 lane roads where the speed limit is 70 mph with driveways and blind corners it's ridiculous.

Same thing in WA state.

Lol,I've had alot of tickets before.
I went through a several year period when I didn't care about tickets and just paid them as they came in.
(suspended for points a few times).
I've been busted for 29+ miles over the limit more than a few times,and know the fine by heart from the state ($360)
$328 doesn't sound terrible,my first ticket when I was 15 was for 93 in a 55 and that bad boy was $360(and my first suspension when I didn't pay it).
At those speeds they have the option of also giving you reckless driving which was in excess of $500 IIRC,somehow I never got it (was a killer on points also,3 i think-29+ over was only 2)
Our fines might have changed in the past 6 years or so since my last ticket,but i'm betting they went up.
Really doesn't sound like you guy's have it that bad.

Welcome to the "change".