------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
Originally posted by fieroX: First off notice a few things, this thread was started in early febuary, and died at Phil's post on Feb.13th, then was resurected by you know who on March 22nd. The only way he could of found this post is to do a search for it, and notice his only 5 posts are on this thread. fiero ZZZZ. Zya later!
And now you're coming over here trying to start junk over here, I'll let the forum decide who the idiot is.
Doesn't look like much flaming to me, just a good natured discussion. WCF said he had the utmost respect for you, for doing the install yourself. Let it go. If ya win, you got braggin rights.
It looks to me like this post was intended to "start sh*t". What's so bad about what WCF said over there? He even mentioned he had the upmost respect for you...
pssst..you said your gonna take your L67 and kick some LS1 ass, nobody has an LS1 in a fiero yet. Archie is still working on a kit for it. Plus an LS1 would kill you, makes more HP and i believe it weighs less than the L67.
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FieroX. I am with you here. I am also with WCF. So basically I am taking no sides
I would love to see your car in the 11's. That wouls be so awesome. And I would also like to see you race the 4.0 turbo WCF car. That would be nice to see as well.
I don't think it is worth puffing your chests out there for either of you. Thats just my view
I will say this. That one 3800 S/C Fiero ran a low 13 with just a pulley. It was Lildevil's car. To go from low 13's to even high 11's is going to take quite a bit more power. probably hi-intesity rockers, even smaller pulley, maybe intercooler and then other small things. I think you have what just the pulley mod now? Not quite sure. Haven't been to your site.
I do know that the WCF car is fast though with the 3.4 7k redline and with that good sized turbo is going to haul top end. Probably along the lines of a Z06. Not sure but just maybe If not more boost is the answer. Z06 are known for 115 trap speeds out of the box. Thats hauling.
You are probably going to need about 400 crank hp to get into the 11's and some good driving too. I am sure you probably know this though. You seem to have done your homework. I am rooting for you and yoru car to run 11's. I think that would be awesome. With my project I think mid 12's would be good enough for me.
You thinking of doing a high stall TC?
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Originally posted by Shaun41178: FieroX. I am with you here. I am also with WCF. So basically I am taking no sides
I would love to see your car in the 11's. That wouls be so awesome. And I would also like to see you race the 4.0 turbo WCF car. That would be nice to see as well.
I don't think it is worth puffing your chests out there for either of you. Thats just my view
I will say this. That one 3800 S/C Fiero ran a low 13 with just a pulley. It was Lildevil's car. To go from low 13's to even high 11's is going to take quite a bit more power. probably hi-intesity rockers, even smaller pulley, maybe intercooler and then other small things. I think you have what just the pulley mod now? Not quite sure. Haven't been to your site.
I do know that the WCF car is fast though with the 3.4 7k redline and with that good sized turbo is going to haul top end. Probably along the lines of a Z06. Not sure but just maybe If not more boost is the answer. Z06 are known for 115 trap speeds out of the box. Thats hauling.
You are probably going to need about 400 crank hp to get into the 11's and some good driving too. I am sure you probably know this though. You seem to have done your homework. I am rooting for you and yoru car to run 11's. I think that would be awesome. With my project I think mid 12's would be good enough for me.
You thinking of doing a high stall TC?
Just an FYI, the fastest Grand Prix is running a 12.52, no nitrous, its FWD with terrible traction, and weighs 600 lbs more than me.
If you want people off your back , if you want respect FieroX , Bring the car to ED parks swap meet. There will be a drag race at the strip one night , there will be lots of engine conversions there , including archie and a few 4.9's I believe , probably a few other engine converted cars too.
I looked into going to Ed Park's swapmeet, but with me being in college, and planning to attend the Power Tour only a month later, I wouldnt be able to afford it. I will be attending the FOCOA nationals, so Ill see ya all there right?
:WCF: Why would we have to prove ourselves to you?
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:FieroX: Because you talk a lot of crap, and I still have yet to see a timeslip. Id like to show you my taillights in front of a thousand fiero owners, so why dont you bring it!
Pot...Kettle...Black....
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:WCF: simply because I dont share the same attitude as you - its called integrity, besides, shouldnt you be making headers for these mislead people
true, I guess I have a different way of saying it though. Im just affraid that he will mislead people into thinking that a 3800SC will put a car into top fuel speeds, and when a Fiero owners beleives FieroX's convictions so much that they do the same swap to thier own car - then spend time and money to establish why it is not closing in on sub 11 second trap speeds, then finally getting rid of the car out of frustration - thereby giving more credit to the general opinion out there that the Fiero is not a reputable car - plain and simple
------------------ ( the above was the thoughts, views, and opinions of a disgruntled Fiero mechanic, and do not express or imply those of West Coast Fiero, Fieros West, or any other organization - just that of this poor bastard ) :) Eric Nelson Technician, West Coast Fiero 310-305-4111
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Its strange how you dog your engine of choice. Its almost like you dont have faith in it, and prefer V8's at heart. Oh and I never said anything about running sub 11 second passes, my goal is to run an 11.999 by the end of the season. That goal will be met, and I will have video proof that will be accessable through my website. See ya this summer!
When I first joined this forum ( long enough ago I can't remember my password, and my e-mail has changed ) as BellaFiero, I was joining a funny, jovial place where people talked more about life, sometimes including their car, than how much they hated each other.
This place has turned into a mud-slinging, sharp-edged playground, where every kid who speaks up gets made fun of.
Now, I'm not defending all of the 'troublemakers.' I'm just defending Fiero X here. But there's been others. It's why I stopped posting... it just too mean. Hopefully, some of you will maybe reflect a little. But probably not. You haven't yet. I'm posting this for the entire forum, but it's going in this thread because it concerns WCF.
Whoever it is that's running the name of WCF through the mud, you might want to think about it. I'd never order a part from you, or a product of any nature. You are unprofessional on a level I can't begin to imagine. I picture you as running your business out of a one-car garage, with empty beer cases littering the work space. This probably is the exact opposite - but you're sickening attitude gives me that image. and IMAGE is what sells your stuff. And you're projecting an IMAGE of being a real @$$.
Whether you have a little note or not, you're still represting WCF. MAKE A NEW NAME, SLICK, if you don't want to represent the company.
I say Bravo to the folks over at the other forum. Or at least to the ones who stuck up for Fiero X. They defended their member. They obviously have more unity than we do - and they don't even drive the same cars. They've got MORE to argue about than we do, and they do a better job at keeping the barbs at bay. Oh, I'm sure if we look deep we'll find some ugliness, but still - it's that sense of unity that just springs forward that matters.
You know, that unity that DIED here a while ago? Incidentally, Cliff - this is not directed at you. You do a great service. This is directed to the whiney brats who feel this is a "SAFE" place to rant and rave behind the anonymity of their names and the safety of distance.
Oh, by the way, you better put a stop to that Trash Can before somebody dies laughing.
It's true. There has been a lot of in-fighting going on. fieroX made some strong claims for his car. That wasn't what caused the backlash as much as the arrogance with which he made them. I am looking forward to him proving everything he said he can do, and wish him the best of luck.
Benchracing can be a lot of fun, but when a bench race gets so competitive that you're argueing over who's faster to the point of starting arguments, then it's lost it's appeal.
(Who"s Your DaddY? OOh, I made the colors chaNGE!)
and LOOK! Those below couldn't help themselves, they HAD to post! What do you want? This is the TRASH CAN! There is a reason stuff winds up here, and as Cliff says, 'enter at your own risk!'. besides, this post is so rich with attitude from well known members it is helpful to those new to the forum.
That's what makes PFF such a rich place, like 'em or not. The provokers, whiners, complainers and the DUDE16s' of the world. Bets entertainment on the 'net for a Fiero owner. CONTRIBUTE!
'It's not My fault!'
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