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How is this legal? by Jake_Dragon
Started on: 11-13-2025 08:04 PM
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Report this Post11-13-2025 08:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
He parks next to the hydrant and runs an electrical line to a box to power his motor home.

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Why is there an electrical box sticking out of the boulevard beside a fire hydrant?
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Report this Post11-14-2025 12:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Patrick:


Why is there an electrical box sticking out of the boulevard beside a fire hydrant?


Exactly. From the same place that brought you this.


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Report this Post11-14-2025 09:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The line looks broken..or cut.
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Report this Post11-14-2025 12:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by maryjane:

The line looks broken..or cut.


The first picture is a capture from Google maps.
But the cord is connected and there is power to the RV. The RV is just under the size limit to be parked on the street. This is just one of the many RVs parked on the street in our neighborhood.
I had hoped they would expand the law to these like they did for LA. There is a huge issue with people renting out RVs parked on the street to people that have no other options.
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That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?
I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?
I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.


Exactly.
This was ran by the homeowner. Most of the RV owners just run extension cords across the sidewalk.
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Report this Post11-14-2025 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I doubt there is an outlet installed in that box. I'll bet the RV owner spliced into wiring in that box.

I have seen similar things done by homeless people. Last year while walking through Capitol Park next to the Vietnam War Memorial, I saw a homeless guy laying next to a podium that has information about Capitol Park. He had opened up a panel at the base of the podium, spliced into wires and ran a set of wires to his phone charger. The next day I saw repairmen working in that panel to fix the damage. I'll bet that phone charge cost the tax payers a few hundred dollars in damage to call up an electrician to fix it.
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

That makes no sense.
How is there an outlet for power on the street?
Who's power is that?



Those were my thoughts as well.

 
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

This was ran by the homeowner. Most of the RV owners just run extension cords across the sidewalk.


Doesn't your city/town check for electrical code violations? This seems so blatantly illegal (as well as potentially dangerous).


 
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

I think around here you can't even park 15' from a hydrant.


Good point.

There's a lot of weirdness in that one photo. I don't think I've seen an AstroTurf boulevard before! I guess it needed to match the yard.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Doesn't your city/town check for electrical code violations? This seems so blatantly illegal (as well as potentially dangerous).




That actually depends... although it looks weird, it looks like everything that was done here is legitimate. Outdoor outlets are totally legal, and you can have them in the yard too... they just need to be installed with weather-tight PVC conduit, and it needs to be in a weather-protected receptacle cover and housing, which it does have. It's California, so it almost never rains, and that's fake grass so they don't water it (would still be OK if it was). The only thing is that on the other end, it would need to be part of a GFCI, and I don't think it can be more than 20 AMPs, otherwise there are stricter rules. It's all in NERC, which both the US and Canada follow.


I think the only problem here though, is that the city may not want it installed near a fire hydrant, and the RV is definitely closer than 10-15 feet, and the fact that he's installed an outlet there tells me he does it all the time. But as far as installation goes, it looks fine.


One way you can totally around regulations like that too, is if the outlet that you see there, is actually not hard-wired to the home, but pops out somewhere near the home with an extension cord, and someone has to plug it in on an external outlet on the house. A LOT of people do that...
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Report this Post11-15-2025 11:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
That almost looks like a playground or park instead of a homeowner's yard.
Is the fire hydrant real or one of those 'Hey doggy pee here' things?
(or maybe I'm just not used to seeing that much green grass)
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I don't know about California but everywhere else I have lived you can't put a permanent structure in the easement between the sidewalk and road.
This is a permanent structure, the RV has move once in 2 years, we walk here all the time and it's like walking through his yard when you go that way. Creepy and we avoid it.
The "grass" is fake, he covered 40% of his front lawn with pavers. The rest is this artificial turf. The electrical box showed up at the same time they did the yard.
The hydrant is real, nothing else in his yard is I don't have anything against the guy, live an let live but he is impacting the entire street and sidewalk.
It's a narrow street as it is an you can only get one car down the street at a time. Plus as all streets here lead to the park at the end of the block we get people parking here to go to the park.
It's not ideal. There are other RVs but this is the only one that seems to be an extension of his house.
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Oh and its been raining for 2 days now. I would look for worms but they probably avoid the fake grass
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If he wired that himself then there could be a real danger there to firefighters if they have to use that hydrant. Send that picture to your nearest fire station and they will have the fire marshal come out and have a talk with him.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I don't know about California but everywhere else I have lived you can't put a permanent structure in the easement between the sidewalk and road.


Even ignoring the fact that it could be dangerous due to being electrical, I can see a lawsuit in the making if someone just simply tripped over the electrical box sticking out of the public boulevard and hurt themselves.

If you now try this and seek damages, I receive 10% of the proceeds.

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If he wired that himself then there could be a real danger there to firefighters if they have to use that hydrant. Send that picture to your nearest fire station and they will have the fire marshal come out and have a talk with him.


Done as well as a link to the google map
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