Ok, I know Reddit can be a cesspool, but there's a subreddit called AutoZone, and occasionally I go onto Reddit (not very often). Anyway, I happened to catch this post:
The long and short, it's for AutoZone employees to post ridiculous things that customers do. This customer tried to return a battery that fell out of the back of his truck, totally smashed up the battery, and the AutoZone guy was only willing to give him a core fee for it.
All the people in the comments were going on and on about how he was so horrible, how he's shilling for the billionaires, how he's hurting the common man, and how it "hurts no one" to just give him a replacement.
Anyway, this is what I responded with:
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This will not be a popular take, but I agree with the AutoZone guy here. I'm frankly surprised by all the comments from everyone here who's saying things like:
- Why are you simping for the billionaires?
- It's not hurting you, why do you care?
- You screwed the common man...
Were none of you raised to have integrity? This is an ethics issue... not a feigned morality one about economic injustice. Back in the day, I was broke as **** . I couldn't afford gas in my old car, and had to check payphones for change so I could afford to buy $0.39 cent Mac n' Cheese boxes at the gas station just so I could actually eat that night. I've screwed up many times... but the one thing I always tried to do is have integrity. I'm not perfect, but I always try to do what's right.
If I was dumb enough to throw a battery in the back of a pickup truck, and let it slide out the back and fall onto the road. Guess what... I'm a dumbass and I've now learned my lesson, and you can be sure I'll never do that again. When you reward poor decision making, you validate that kind of behavior and people don't learn.
And... yes... yes it does affect you when this person is allowed to do these kinds of things. AutoZone isn't a not for profit. They don't take this on the chin and deal with it... this results in ever so slightly higher costs to the consumer the next time you buy a battery.
Now... I'm not trying to be holier than thou, but damn... I am shocked that with the exception of maybe 1 other person, that absolutely everyone else seemed to think he should have just swapped it out? Am I just a complete idiot... or is it them?
I've never seen a more self-important, spoiled, entitled group of people than those on Reddit. I'll bet many of the people who abandoned Twitter are there.
I "lost" my Reddit account when I lost an old email account. I haven't missed it nearly as much as I thought I would.
I've never seen a more self-important, spoiled, entitled group of people than those on Reddit. I'll bet many of the people who abandoned Twitter are there.
I "lost" my Reddit account when I lost an old email account. I haven't missed it nearly as much as I thought I would.
Well, I appreciate it... I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one. I was starting to think that maybe I was the one so self-absorbed and/or a complete idiot for thinking that way. I'm not so quick to upend my entire way of thinking, but it did cross my mind that if I'm the only one thinking this way... maybe I'm wrong... haha...
Most of the comments are from low class scumbags and the younger crowd who think that they are entitled to everything for free. Autozone did the right thing. Society needs to learn the rules and some common sense.
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You are correct Reddit is a cesspool Ethics is just another word they don't understand. Right up there with responsibility. They never learned that just because you didn't ask to be born doesn't mean life owes you something.
Nothing better to do. Perhaps if they had went to work instead of waiting for a hand out.
Consider yourself validated by those one who earned everything he ever had and although not a perfect person, have tried to live a life with integrity.
After retiring, I took a part time job (mostly out of boredom) at a competitor, between the thieves and the con artist, it was a constant struggle. I clearly remember a customer who ordered a wheel bearing for a Chevrolet Blazer who upon returning the bearing (he tried to beat into place with a sledge hammer) claimed it was a bad part. Then ordered a wheel bearing for a Chevrolet Trailblazer. He didn't get credit for the first bearing, It was beat to hell.
Have a hundred (if not more) stories of similar situations. Every time I go into the same corporation's stores now, I get offered another opportunity to work there, not no but, HELL NO. Dealing with most of the public sucks.
------------------ Rams Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. . You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.
The morals on display there are just...disgusting. tl;dr is the OP runs a small managed IT company as a side gig, and when a customer asked to suspend their services the OP complied as maliciously as possible, destroying a large amount of a small business customer's data and taking their services offline in response. While a lot of the sysadmins on Reddit downvoted them for it...a LOT of folks were celebrating the move. It's been a while since I was in a sysadmin role...but the idea of purposefully destroying customer data and infrastructure like that made me nauseous.
The morals on display there are just...disgusting. tl;dr is the OP runs a small managed IT company as a side gig, and when a customer asked to suspend their services the OP complied as maliciously as possible, destroying a large amount of a small business customer's data and taking their services offline in response. While a lot of the sysadmins on Reddit downvoted them for it...a LOT of folks were celebrating the move. It's been a while since I was in a sysadmin role...but the idea of purposefully destroying customer data and infrastructure like that made me nauseous.
I'm not seeing in there what you're saying... but on some of the comments, it alludes to it. I'm wondering if he edited (I can see he edited) the original post, and took out all the incriminating stuff. The way he's worded it in the first post, it makes it seem like he's a victim and has done nothing wrong. I assume somewhere he said he did this... but it doesn't say anywhere that he deleted stuff. But I suppose I was in his situation, you just kind of disregard with the person said with respect to "threatening legal action," and just politely comply and ask them how they would like to receive any property that belongs to them, which you (the contract) holds.
I mean, there's no contract here, but whether the new owner is an ******* or not is really besides the point... the thing is... if he has all this data that's imperative to the customer to maintain business... at the VERY least, he could burn it to some DVDs and give it to him, or put it on a USB stick or something and then print out the credential information for him... and at least make an attempt to explain something.
If what happened is what you're suggesting... this Redditor is absolutely liable in a civil suit, and... honestly, there's probably a criminal component to this too.
I'm not seeing in there what you're saying... but on some of the comments, it alludes to it. I'm wondering if he edited (I can see he edited) the original post, and took out all the incriminating stuff. The way he's worded it in the first post, it makes it seem like he's a victim and has done nothing wrong. I assume somewhere he said he did this... but it doesn't say anywhere that he deleted stuff.
I should have been more clear that the OP goes into in the comments; they openly state that they deleted customer information here. "No intentions to keep working for this new individual. Licenses off, domain released, data erased. I'll def give an update back in a few weeks." They also go into more detail about how they are mismanaging the folks they are providing service to, and intermingling their data...so because this customers licensing exists with the OP's tenant, the above action would delete all of their cloud-hosted files, all of their emails, all of their chats/chat logs, all of their calendar information...and likely a host of other business critical information. It would also shut down their services, including email, and result in any emails to anyone at their domain bouncing back...he nuked them.
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: But I suppose I was in his situation, you just kind of disregard with the person said with respect to "threatening legal action," and just politely comply and ask them how they would like to receive any property that belongs to them, which you (the contract) holds.
I mean, there's no contract here, but whether the new owner is an ******* or not is really besides the point... the thing is... if he has all this data that's imperative to the customer to maintain business... at the VERY least, he could burn it to some DVDs and give it to him, or put it on a USB stick or something and then print out the credential information for him... and at least make an attempt to explain something.
If what happened is what you're suggesting... this Redditor is absolutely liable in a civil suit, and... honestly, there's probably a criminal component to this too.
I've worked with two MSPs and handled this same situation occasionally. You do almost exactly as you said...export every bit of their information that you are a custodian for and deliver it to them with some kind of assurance they received it. You also work -as best as you possibly can- with the new custodians of their system so services are uninterrupted. Yes, you will lose money, but you also won't get sued for maliciously destroying data that doesn't belong to you and you won't be a petty, morally bankrupt monster who likely cost people their livelihoods out of spite.
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Originally posted by NewDustin: They also go into more detail about how they are mismanaging the folks they are providing service to, and intermingling their data...so because this customers licensing exists with the OP's tenant, the above action would delete all of their cloud-hosted files, all of their emails, all of their chats/chat logs, all of their calendar information...and likely a host of other business critical information. It would also shut down their services, including email, and result in any emails to anyone at their domain bouncing back...he nuked them.
I've worked with two MSPs and handled this same situation occasionally. You do almost exactly as you said...export every bit of their information that you are a custodian for and deliver it to them with some kind of assurance they received it. You also work -as best as you possibly can- with the new custodians of their system so services are uninterrupted. Yes, you will lose money, but you also won't get sued for maliciously destroying data that doesn't belong to you and you won't be a petty, morally bankrupt monster who likely cost people their livelihoods out of spite.
"Licenses off, domain released, data erased. I'll def give an update back in a few weeks."
... lol, dude. Who does this? Ignore for a moment that doing this is in some ways actually illegal... but why would someone do this anyway? Like... why would you want to destroy someone's business? How petty does it get!
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: ... lol, dude. Who does this? Ignore for a moment that doing this is in some ways actually illegal... but why would someone do this anyway? Like... why would you want to destroy someone's business? How petty does it get!
Right?! That particular comment is downvoted into oblivion -thankfully- but there are folks in there patting him on the back and trying to help justify it :barf:
That is the attitude that people have in the San Fransisco Bay Area. "It is just a write off." "Who cares if people steal a few things."
Lots of stores closed down and are in the process of fleeing the area. The average retail shrinkage in the country is 1.6%. Retailers try to get that below 1%. When the laws and society itself thinks that theft is OK, then that number can skyrocket. Businesses cannot stay open when they lose 10%+ of their inventory to theft. The usual people came out calling it corporate greed and racism.
That is the attitude that people have in the San Fransisco Bay Area. "It is just a write off." "Who cares if people steal a few things."
Apparently enough people care in California, which led to Proposition 36 being passed last December.
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Proposition 36, one of this year’s most high-profile and divisive ballot measures in California, has been approved by voters with overwhelming support.
The law will enact harsher penalties for repeat theft and drug crimes, which were eased a decade ago through the passage of Proposition 47.
Apparently enough people care in California, which led to Proposition 36 being passed last December.
Yup. Eventually enough people figure out that we were mislead by prop 47 and the voters undid the mistake last November. It is too late for the stores already closed and much of the bay area is still a **** hole.
Little thefts add up. Lawlessness leads to an environment where it is impossible to do business. That is where the attitude of stealing is permissible leads.
San Francisco WalGreens was robbed 20 times a day.
