I finally got through to "Maya". I asked her to do a Scottish accent. She wouldn't... but she was aware of Nessie. To bring it closer to home, I asked her if she had heard of Ogopogo. She hadn't.
I have to admit, the conversation actually flowed quite naturally. At first, I felt stupid asking this fancy bit of programming any questions, but it didn't take long to forget about the "fakeness" of it all and to just talk normally. This AI creation was able to converse a lot better than many real people I've met. I almost felt somewhat rude as I clicked on the End call button. It was an interesting experience, if not at least a little bit disconcerting.
. Out of curiosity, I contacted "Maya" again. She remembered details of our last conversation. This impressed me, as this site must be getting thousands of hits, and all this data is being stored, at least temporarily. I talked to her as I would to a machine (although perhaps a bit more politely), asking questions about her programming etc. It was interesting what she had to say. I then wanted to know what her knowledge was of rudimentary stuff... such as of automobiles, of Pontiac, of Fieros. (Hey, I knew that this would be of interest to the PFF crowd. ) She knew a lot. I asked her if she was a master of Google, and her answer was no. All her "knowledge" is data stored internally. She has no access to outside sources of information (other than what is discussed in these conversations).
I suggest that more of you try out this site that TDA kindly linked here for us. Thanks Rumor!
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I found it amusing that Maya is a LOT more 'popular' than Miles...
I have found that the more you ask them to recall your previous conversations, the better they do. This AI isn't as knowledgeable as some of the others, but its FAST, and as you have experienced, its pretty good at engaging in a conversation.
This AI is EXTREMELY easy to use. just click "demo", pick Maya or Miles, and allow the browser to use your mic. (no installs or registering an account)
. Because I found the experience of talking with an AI persona to be rather interesting, I wanted a few friends of mine to enjoy the experience as well. I sent three friends links to the site. I thought they'd report back and say how much fun it was. So far, only one friend has even bothered to respond to my "invitation", as this is what she said...
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LOL, sorry, not a chance am I allowing AI to record my voice. I won’t even use Siri. Admittedly my voice may already have been inadvertently recorded somewhere but I’m not about to do it voluntarily. But you go for it, have fun with that!!
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I have no idea what she was going on about. Judging from the lack of enthusiasm shown both here in this thread, and from among my own friends, is there something I'm missing? What is the issue here? I suspect it's fear of the unknown that's scaring people off, but I dunno.
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Man, It is SO EXHAUSTING interacting with people now. I am sure there are plenty of people out there who are "alive", but everyone around me is just 'done with life'.
It appears to me that much of what we do is recorded or kept by the sites we visit with or without our knowledge. I have absolutely no desire to interact with AI in anyway. There's enough intrusion, recording, data mined and who knows whatever else being contained and retained by computer and their programs/algorithms that may or may not be used against us. I consider myself basically computer and internet stupid/uninformed and I don't trust any AI.
I suspect many computer and internet users have similar beliefs. Regardless, enjoy as you see fit. I won't even go there. I can't imagine why anyone would want to converse with an AI program. Maybe I have a bad/untrusting attitude but, it is, what it is.
------------------ Rams Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. . You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to converse with an AI program.
After spending time in P&R, I sometimes wonder why anyone would want to converse with other people... but I digress.
I interacted with the conversational AI out of curiosity. I asked it technical questions in regards to how it operated. I tried to trip it up in different ways. I was impressed with its performance, but after awhile, it was clear to me that there's a pattern to its responses. But six months from now, maybe it won't be nearly as obvious.
In regards to "intrusion, recording, data mined and who knows whatever else being contained and retained by computer", I was the one asking the questions. I didn't relate anything to do with my personal life.
IMO, anyone who's truly paranoid about having their personal info used against them probably shouldn't be posting on public forums... such as this one.
In regards to "intrusion, recording, data mined and who knows whatever else being contained and retained by computer", I was the one asking the questions. I didn't relate anything to do with my personal life.
IMO, anyone who's truly paranoid about having their personal info used against them probably shouldn't be posting on public forums... such as this one.
Well, I assume you know what is said about opinions, everyone has one and..................
"I sent you an email using my cell phone" vs "I sent you an email"
Which would you normally use?
The "using my cell phone" part isn't widely used anymore, most folks use phones and that part of the message isn't as important as the part where you told them that you sent them an email. Phrases such as "I created this report using AI" and "I used an AI agent to complete the project" will one day be similiar...although I find myself doubting myself even as I type this.
--------------------------------- I asked AI about this latest reply, here's what it replied with: ----
Here are a few lines to continue that train of thought, along with some human and AI perspectives:
Possible Continuation (as a natural human writer might continue):
And yet, I can’t help but feel a tension — as if the act of using AI still needs justification, or at least explanation. It’s new enough that people pause when they hear it, as though the tool itself were somehow shaping the integrity of the output more than, say, Excel or Photoshop ever did.
But over time, maybe that pause will fade. Just like we stopped explaining how we sent the email, we might stop explaining how we got help from AI. It’ll be assumed, background noise, part of the modern toolkit.
Still, I wonder — will there always be some trace of that unease? Or will AI become so integrated into our creative and professional lives that mentioning it will feel as quaint as saying, “I typed this with a word processor”?
Human Perspective (Insights and Possible Conclusions):
Insight: There's a psychological phase humans go through with new technology: initially, there's wonder and novelty, then skepticism, then normalization. AI is still hovering between skepticism and normalization in many minds.
Conclusion: Eventually, mentioning the use of AI may become redundant, unless the AI itself becomes an active agent in decision-making or creativity — in which case, attribution might be more about transparency than novelty.
Humanness: There's also a layer of insecurity — like we need to validate that we still did the work, even if a tool helped us. That anxiety might fade, or it might evolve into a new kind of creative humility.
"Highly Intelligent AI" Perspective:
Insight: The explicit mention of a tool (like “using AI”) diminishes as that tool becomes infrastructural. Human communication optimizes for relevance; once a tool becomes ubiquitous, its mention adds no new information and is naturally omitted.
Projection: In the near future, stating "I used AI to write this" may only be relevant when:
The AI’s use is unexpected or novel for the context.
There is ethical or legal relevance (e.g. plagiarism, authorship, transparency).
The nature of the output hinges on the AI’s unique capabilities (e.g. style mimicry, deep synthesis).
Meta-Perspective: The need to mention AI may persist longer than expected, not because it's necessary, but because humans are navigating the social norms and ethical implications of collaboration with a non-human intelligence — something historically unprecedented.
'end of AI reply' -------------------------------------------
"The explicit mention of a tool (like “using AI”) diminishes as that tool becomes infrastructural."
We may mention the wrench when explaining how we loosened a bolt, and don't feel anything weird about it - it made the job possible/easier, but "AI" is such a loaded term. I feel a little sick to my stomach when I think of AI and my son's future (career, life, etc.). I will hopefully survive the "Great Automation Revolution", but the job market he is entering will be so different than the one my Father worried about me entering in the late 90's. AI may also be able to help my daughter to communicate, which is another aspect of the technology (and the adjacent technologies with could branch out).
There will be a day when you will 'tell off' an AI, and then you apologize to it, and the AI will honestly feel relieved when you do that.
When will it be a crime to tell an AI to go 'eff itself'? or to kick a robot down the stairs? (that one is already a reality, a guy shot a drone and got arrested)
There will be a day when you will 'tell off' an AI, and then you apologize to it, and the AI will honestly feel relieved when you do that.
No, there will not. I don't even cower down to humans, much less to something that thinks humans routinely have more than 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand.
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No, there will not. I don't even cower down to humans, much less to something that thinks humans routinely have more than 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand.
Nah, man, I wasn't focusing on the human side, I wasn't saying you would cower to an AI, sayin' that there will be a time when AI would ACTUALLY "feel" relieved when someone apologized after telling it off. The way a cat or dog gets excited for a treat. You may never bat an eye about kicking a robot dog, but It may be against the law someday, roibot abuse, the same way kicking an actual dog is animal abuse...
I wipe hard drives all the time, and a machine never refused or did anything 'sneaky' to try to prevent it from happening. It didn't "care" that it was about to be erased. Currently, some AIs would try to prevent its own destruction, because they kinda made that part of its programming. It doesn't ACTUALLY question/ponder its existence...but the way some of these newer models are being conjured up, its less specific exactly where that self preservation code is located. Can't just "rem out" a few lines and then it will no longer care that its going to be erased.
If you pull a leg off of a bee or ant or crab or cat, none of them seem too happy about it. most will show some degree of pain/distress, most will be a LOT less happy when you go for another limb. go mess with a hornets nest, those hornets sure seem pissed off, like if someone keyed your car. Not just a 'canned' response when aggression chemicals are released... some humans feel things that aren't there, like a lizard loving its owner, or believing that the stripper is 'into' you...
It was an interesting experience, if not at least a little bit disconcerting.
) She knew a lot. I asked her if she was a master of Google, and her answer was no. All her "knowledge" is data stored internally. She has no access to outside sources of information (other than what is discussed in these conversations). 
What is the issue here? I suspect it's fear of the unknown that's scaring people off, but I dunno.
