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Yellowstone supervolcano has a lot more magma than scientists previously thought. by rinselberg
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A "classic", but GEICO insurance isn't the only place to get "a whole lot more". You can also get more magma than scientists previously knew about at the Yellowstone "supervolcano", although the new data has not prompted any vulcanologists to say that it makes an eruption of the volcano any more likely in the foreseeable future.

Smithsonian Magazine's Sarah Kuta reports:
https://www.smithsonianmag....ervolcano-180981229/
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Kevin Costner might have made the 150th anniversary program just in time ...
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Report this Post12-05-2022 07:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MidEngineManiacSend a Private Message to MidEngineManiacEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So how many virgins do we toss in this time ?



Seems like a waste, though. Maybe we can toss politicians instead.
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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

So how many virgins do we toss in this time ?



Seems like a waste, though. Maybe we can toss politicians instead.


OK, now seriously. Put yourself in the place of Mother Nature and all of a sudden, someone shoves a Pelosi in your crack. Do you really think that's gonna help improve anyone's attitude.

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Yellowstone has had a bunch of small eruptions in it's history...But the three BIG ones were 2.1 million years ago, 1.3 million years ago, and 0.64 million years ago....Notice that they are almost equally spaced at around 0.7 million years apart...and we are (Basically) right where another BIG one will come along.

All land EAST of Yellowstone will be un-inhabitable during and for years after the eruption. That means all the way to the east coast.

Mount St. Helens ejected 0.25 cubic kilometers of material....Mt. Mazama (Crater Lake) ejected 30 CK, Mt. Pinatubo 5 CK.....And the SMALLEST big eruption of Yellowstone ejected 280 CK......The largest ejected 2450 CK......Here is a graphic comparison;



Also, here is a map of the Yellowstone hot spot that has been erupting for 16 million years- burning a series of holes thru the N. American plate as the plate has slid westward;

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Yea, I am sure it could go super bad super quick, end the global warming worries immediately. My actual concern is man made messing with Yellowstone, war and crap.
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Originally posted by FriendGregory:

Yea, I am sure it could go super bad super quick, end the global warming worries immediately. My actual concern is man made messing with Yellowstone, war and crap.

Not to worry, when all the glacial ice melts, it'll cool off all that magma. We'll be fine and life will go on.

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Report this Post12-08-2022 03:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Did someone just say "man made messing with Yellowstone"..?

There's already an acronym for this concept: SPEV. System for Prevention of Eruptions of Volcanoes.

A researcher who was working in Israel published a journal article in 2018. He's not alone. Other people have been talking about the idea.

I quickly scrolled through it and it seems to have two ideas that would work in tandem. Constructing geothermal electricity installations around the periphery of a volcano, to remove heat energy from the underground reservoirs of magma that would be the cause of a future eruption. This wouldn't involve direct contact with the magma reservoirs or the molten rock. It would be indirect. Heat being transferred from the molten rock in the magma reservoirs to underground water that is nearby. That happens naturally. "Old Faithful" and the other volcanically heated water formations in Yellowstone National Park.

The geothermal installations would be powered by the heat in these volumes of naturally occurring water. Likely augmented with additional water that would be brought in from outside and pumped into the ground as replenishment for the water that Mother Nature is already providing. Pump water in, the water absorbs heat from the rock formations that are adjacent to the magma reservoirs (thermal conductivity) and then the water releases the heat energy inside the geothermal installation doohickies. It only makes sense to use the heat to generate electricity instead of just wasting it. The electricity sustains the system. Surplus electricity is drawn off for the grid or used for other purposes like "green"hydrogen (from electrolysis of water) or for recharging batteries or battery-like power storage systems.

So putting a "cap" on the temperature of the molten rock beneath the volcano and then it just can't "blow". That's the theory. "It would be crazy not to."

To make it work even better, the geothermal installations would have membranes to remove dissolved gas molecules from the water. Osmosis. Or reverse osmosis. So when the water is pumped back into the ground, it's been degassed. Which is significant because gas molecules add "punch" to volcanic eruptions.The dissolved gas molecules in molten rock are suddenly and violently released when the magma that was deep underground wells up closer to the surface and into a lower pressure regime. "Show time."

I'm not trying to be perfectly on point. This is just what I am seeing in this journal article as I quickly scrolled through it. An approximate summary of what's there.

"Seeing is believing."
https://www.ijsr.net/archive/v7i2/23021805.pdf

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The Italian model for the (conceptual) SPEV at Yellowstone

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Yes, we should definitely start messing around with volcanoes and earthquakes using the well developed and completely researched branch of geology known as plate tectonics.

(That's sarcasm, we know a lot more now than we did 60 years ago when we were first able to measure the rate of see floor spreading.)

But, we still don't know enough to be messing around and causing more problems.

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Unraveling the Physics of the Yellowstone Magmatic System Using Geodynamic Simulations


I think the Yellowstone Caldera will pop, long after the Cascadia M9 Earthquake and Tsunami, the Rainier Eruption, the Puget Subsidence and Liquefaction Events.
Doomed to be destroyed, hundreds of years of human construction leveled in less than ten minutes, flattened.
Back to the stone age, living in a post apocalyptic state of destruction, loss of everything.
Thunderbird and Whale.
' Lo, there in the future is the end ! '

some more.
Cascadia M9 first.
Yep !
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