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2009 Honda Civic Key Immobilizer by Jake_Dragon
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2009 Honda Civic. Car sat too long and the battery died. I charged it up and when I tried to start the car it will start then die. Key Immobilizer is flashing so the ECU has lost its mind and thinks I am trying to steal the car.
Looking for a scan tool that can reset the immobilizer and let it recognize the key. Anyone have a model number that works and isn't $700

This is my fault, I know it and I take full responsibility so don't judge. I just need the car to start so I can get it back on the road.
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Report this Post02-04-2022 03:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
fun

key guy at the local swap meet wanted 80 for a key with chip
he had a reader / burner that did the keys is that what you need ?
or some other device for the car end and not the key

local locksmith ?

or indie honda shop ?

rob a bank then go to the stealer or just
rob the stealer for the needed device ?
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local auto parts maybe ?
try one that sells keys for the chipped cars
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If you are still in Long Beach, park it on the street with the windows down, wait a few minutes for a thief to come along and start it, then shoot him.
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Report this Post02-04-2022 04:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
While I like the idea of putting it on the street its my girlfriends car and she would have to clean it

Ray I have been looking around and so far the cost is making me look for a different car. It has pretty much sat for the last year, so it needs some love.
I had a couple of days off and figured I would get it running again when I found the issue with the immobilizer. Apparently this is a common issue with these cars.
I have already had to repair the ignition once and now I have to consider what would be the best option.

If its going to cost more than $200 then I need think is it worth it to keep putting money into it when there are some nicer cars out there.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

2009 Honda Civic. Car sat too long and the battery died. I charged it up and when I tried to start the car it will start then die. Key Immobilizer is flashing so the ECU has lost its mind and thinks I am trying to steal the car.
Looking for a scan tool that can reset the immobilizer and let it recognize the key.



I have to assume that not all immobilizers are created equal. I had my JDM Subaru sit for two years with no car battery installed, and the engine started just fine when a battery was subsequently installed.

Could there be more to the Honda immobilizer's problem than just being without power for "too long"?
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Originally posted by williegoat:

If you are still in Long Beach, park it on the street with the windows down, wait a few minutes for a thief to come along and start it, then shoot him.


NO no, once the little bastard starts the car, point the gun at him and tell him to get out of the car with his hands up, THEN have him explain HOW he started the car, THEN shoot him. You'll figure out how to do it, AND you won't have to clean up all the blood and broken glass out of the car. THINK, people!
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Originally posted by Patrick:

I have to assume that not all immobilizers are created equal. I had my JDM Subaru sit for two years with no car battery installed, and the engine started just fine when a battery was subsequently installed.

Could there be more to the Honda immobilizer's problem than just being without power for "too long"?


It was the charging procedure and trying to "jump start" the car instead of just letting the charger do its thing.
Apparently this is a known issue with this model. I guess you can corrupt the key data if you turn on the key or try to start the car under other than normal power levels.

Yes not all of them are created equal.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I guess you can corrupt the key data if you turn on the key or try to start the car under other than normal power levels.


Ah, good to know.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I have to assume that not all immobilizers are created equal. I had my JDM Subaru sit for two years with no car battery installed, and the engine started just fine when a battery was subsequently installed.

Could there be more to the Honda immobilizer's problem than just being without power for "too long"?


Just changing the battery in a 2000 something VW Beetle can cause a tow to the dealer due to immobilizer problems if you aren't careful.
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Report this Post02-05-2022 11:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
'immobilizer' means something completely different to livestock producers ... I'm gonna let ya do your own search for it..
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Ordered a new ignition, it was $82 and comes with new keys.
Should be here today. So I should know if that fixes it by this weekend.

I have reached out to a couple Honda service departments and they have not responded. Odd, I also see there is a recall for the passenger air bag and to schedule an appointment its 2 1/2 months out.
Lock smiths can also reset the keys if they have the scan tool, the couple I talked to did not have the tools to do that.

Some history, the key got stuck in the car about 6 months ago, I got it out but then it wouldn't go back in. I took everything apart and fixed it but I had to file down some parts of the Lock Cylinder so the key would go in. Nothing else was changed.
Nothing with the chip sensor was changed.
That is why I choose to change out the ignition as the current one could be started with a screwdriver if you know what you are doing
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Ignition was replaced and all codes cleared.
Seems that I will have to have someone come out and look at it.

At least I know that the key is not going to get stuck anymore.
I would cut our losses and get something else but its not my car.

Can I claim it as a Covid death and mandate we get a different car?

Service Bulletin 02-053 Honda Civic

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Locksmith reset the immobilizer and configured the new keys.
None of the door fobs work right now but the car is running and that is the important part.
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Locksmith reset the immobilizer and configured the new keys.
None of the door fobs work right now but the car is running and that is the important part.


Good show.

Hope the charges were not crushing.

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

If its going to cost more than $200 then I need think is it worth it to keep putting money into it when there are some nicer cars out there.


What a nuisance this "immobilizer" ordeal has been! Did you end up putting more money into this 2009 Civic than it's worth?
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What a nuisance this "immobilizer" ordeal has been! Did you end up putting more money into this 2009 Civic than it's worth?


$365 all together so not too bad. The car runs great, doesn't use oil (Much)
I had looked at the prices and found a replacement would cost more.

I had just replaced all of the brakes right before lock down so it was worth that. If it had gone any where close to $1000 it would have been a different story.

Should the issue come back I will replace the ECU and install a bypass chip to get rid of the immobilizer. May do that anyway
But for now its nice knowing we have a backup car when I want to work on mine.
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Good show.

Hope the charges were not crushing.


$250 for the lock smith to do his thing, I was close to just buying the tool for the keys but couldn't pull the trigger on a $400 tool I was only going to use once.
Guess I could have put an ad in the paper and made the money back fixing other peoples cars

The dealer never did call me back. That ticks me off a little but it is what it is.
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Well the car has been doing ok but we had to get it SMOG tested and it failed.
Apparently between the battery issue and not driving it the stupid car had to be drive cycled.
We drove over 300 miles in 4 days trying to get it to reset. Finally this morning it cleared and we passed SMOG.
Not sure what did it, I insisted it was me calling it a piece of **** and that I was going to put a rag in the fuel tank and set it on fire.
10 minutes later the code reader said it past the CAT test.
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I've had nothing but BAD experiences working on and driving Honda Civics, I don't get why people like them.
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I've had nothing but BAD experiences working on and driving Honda Civics, I don't get why people like them.


I agree, I would never get one. We have 2 years before it has to be smog tested again. I hope I can talk Lisa into getting something else.
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So the drama continues.
Car started to get warmer than normal. Fan is not coming on high speed, they will run on low speed if I turn on the AC (also does not work)
Started the car and ran it up to temp with the radiator cap off and its bubbling. Have a chemical test that should be here tomorrow to test and see if it has exhaust gasses in the coolant.
The car is not loosing fluid and I did an oil change when this started to check the oil and there are no signs of coolant in the oil.

Not sure what is going on with the fan, Honda did some weird **** with the fan controllers and depending on the ECU, sensors and AC the fans will run in parallel or series depending on the temp.
At this point if the coolant test shows exhaust in the coolant the car is done, we will look for something else more reliable.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Ignition was replaced and all codes cleared.
Seems that I will have to have someone come out and look at it.

At least I know that the key is not going to get stuck anymore.
I would cut our losses and get something else but its not my car.

Can I claim it as a Covid death and mandate we get a different car?

Service Bulletin 02-053 Honda Civic



Is it an SI?
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Report this Post07-10-2022 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Its actually a 2006 Honda Civic Sdn LX AT
1.8L SOHC MPFI 16-valve i-VTEC I4 engine
I had the wrong year and couldn't change the title of the thread
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