Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner on Thursday teed up a segment on the Canadian “Freedom Convoy” by seemingly criticizing the notion that such anti-vaccine activists are “fringe,” instead claiming their beliefs have gone “mainstream.”
Moments later, the program rolled footage of such demonstrators waving flags and signs boosting the crazed far-right QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the belief that Donald Trump is fighting a secret cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiliac cannibals.
During Thursday’s broadcast of The Faulkner Focus, Faulkner declared that “Canadians say this is old, we are getting bold” while discussing the most recent developments in the ongoing protest—largely spearheaded by truck drivers who refuse to get vaccinated—against the nation’s coronavirus guidelines and restrictions.
In recent days, Ottawa was essentially shut down when thousands of protesters descended upon the Canadian capital, all while loudly honking 18-wheelers created gridlock by blocking downtown streets. The mass demonstration, which began when some truckers objected to vaccine requirements for crossing the U.S.-Canada border, has since morphed into a rejection of all of the nation’s COVID-19 policies.
After noting that the “Canadian Freedom Convoy” recently blocked a border crossing into Montana, the Fox anchor then brought up the fact that Canadian leaders have denounced the violence and some of the hateful ideology associated with the protests.
“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau tried to paint them all as a fringe group, but the mainstream is embracing them now! People from other nations with loud support,” the midday news host proclaimed.
She then followed this up with a montage of protesters saying they “are here for freedom” and that they want Trudeau to “give people their freedom back.” Faulkner then turned to Fox News correspondent Molly Line, who pointed out that the Ottawa chief of police has acknowledged they may call on the nation’s military to clear out the remaining protesters in the city.
Posting this just in case anyone has an opinion they would like to share.
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"...the mainstream is embracing them now!” the midday news host proclaimed.
Not at all. Nothing more than a bunch of louts on the loose. You've got to wonder about their actual motivation (and IQ level) when Confederate flags (in Canada? wtf) and swastikas are being flaunted.
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Actually, I remember a while back when BLM was blocking roads and freeways, everyone was condemning them. I'm trying to understand the difference here...........
Actually, I remember a while back when BLM was blocking roads and freeways, everyone was condemning them. I'm trying to understand the difference here...........
Rams
Well, for one thing they're not walking out in traffic.....
Well, for one thing they're not walking out in traffic.....
True both are stopping traffic and commerce. Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with legal and peaceful protest but, I see little difference in the BLM protest and this trucker's protest of blocking highways, roads, freeways and ports of entry. Would it be alright if it was BLM?
Personally, I think they'd be better off if they used all the funds and time to support candidates that agree with them. Trucks not moving don't make any money, it takes a lot of fuel to road these tractors to the protest points and drive around tying up city streets. That takes money. Also, those truckers aren't getting paid while they sit there blocking traffic. I guess they make good money and can afford this. This is in no way to suggest I am for mandated vaccines or anything else but, I don't see truckers any differently than the rest of the population. IOWs, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Rams
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This is in no way to suggest I am for mandated vaccines or anything else but, I don't see truckers any differently than the rest of the population.
90% of the cross-border truckers in Canada are vaccinated against COVID. As I alluded to earlier, the source of the funding for this "protest" needs to be determined.
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Freedom will never exist again if the opinions here are common, and they are. We are where we are as a result of them.
I guess that depends on your definition of freedom. Personally, I'm not in favor of mandates, have said so many times but, I still don't think those truckers are any better than any other average citizen. Is everyone expected to follow speed laws just as an example? As I said before, blocking those roads, streets and ports of entry effects a lot of things.
The BLM protests were just as freedom seeking as the truckers blockage in my mind. I was ticked off about the BLM roadblocks, why would this be any different. That is not to suggest I don't support what they are after, just not in the way they are doing it.
Convince me of my error.
Edited: Or is the rest of the public's freedom to commute to be limited, restricted or completely denied so the truckers can protest. As I said, I have no issue with their cause, I just don't agree with their method.
Rams
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"We the people" is exactly what is sounds like....those of us in this country (and supporters all over the globe) who have beyond had enough of Richard Spud.
And no this isnt a "protest", THIS is very-very close to the start of a full-blown tar-and-feather insurrection. We ARENT asking if we can have our rights and freedoms back, we are TELLING jerkwad and all his support minions that we are taking them, by any means required.
"We the people" is exactly what is sounds like....those of us in this country (and supporters all over the globe) who have beyond had enough of Richard Spud.
And no this isnt a "protest", THIS is very-very close to the start of a full-blown tar-and-feather insurrection. We ARENT asking if we can have our rights and freedoms back, we are TELLING jerkwad and all his support minions that we are taking them, by any means required.
OK, have no idea who Richard Spud is and I don't care enough to actually google him.
Reference that "full blown tar and feather insurrection", let us know how that turns out for you.
But, to get back on track. Someone please enlighten me as to how this is different from the BLM road blocks. I clearly remember then and how so many were in an outrage over that, so was I. So, please tell me the difference. Many here stated how upset they were about it.
Rams
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BLM quickly turned into full-blown riots, and targeted anyone and everyone.
This hasn't and is targeting the seat of government. Those that are whining they are forced to close because of it, are forgetting until Monday they were forced to close by mandate. Short attention span, I guess.
BLM quickly turned into full-blown riots, and targeted anyone and everyone.
This hasn't and is targeting the seat of government. Those that are whining they are forced to close because of it, are forgetting until Monday they were forced to close by mandate. Short attention span, I guess.
Not much difference that I can see. Didn't you just say this is the start of a full blown tar and feather insurrection?
BLM quickly turned into full-blown riots, and targeted anyone and everyone.
This hasn't and is targeting the seat of government. Those that are whining they are forced to close because of it, are forgetting until Monday they were forced to close by mandate. Short attention span, I guess.
"Targeting the seat of government"? In the tiny Alberta border town of Coutts?
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The mayor of the southern Alberta village on the Canada-United States border besieged by blockades aimed at ending COVID-19 public health measures says he’s frustrated with the protest.
“I’m really disturbed by what this is doing to the population in my community,” said Mayor Jim Willett of Coutts, a village with a population of approximately 250 home to a busy border crossing into Montana.
“I’m getting more messages and emails and so on, phone calls, than I ever have as mayor of Coutts. There are letters of support and there are letters of not support.”
An illegal blockade just north of Coutts on Highway 4 began Saturday and has snarled traffic and impeded access to basic goods and medical services for area residents over the intervening six days.
But, to get back on track. Someone please enlighten me as to how this is different from the BLM road blocks. I clearly remember then and how so many were in an outrage over that, so was I. So, please tell me the difference. Many here stated how upset they were about it.
Rams
I think their logic is that one of the major things they are protesting against is being required to be vaccinated to enter the US. I think they see disrupting border traffic as one of their only means to get that point across. I dont think it will be effective, and Im not saying I agree with it, but it does make more sense than the normal laying in the middle of the street. ps on the original thread topic. from my understanding from on the ground reporting. those 2 people with the flags in question were both told to leave the protest by the protestors in masse.
Originally posted by gtjoe: I think their logic is that one of the major things they are protesting against is being required to be vaccinated to enter the US. I think they see disrupting border traffic as one of their only means to get that point across. I dont think it will be effective, and Im not saying I agree with it, but it does make more sense than the normal laying in the middle of the street. ps on the original thread topic. from my understanding from on the ground reporting. those 2 people with the flags in question were both told to leave the protest by the protestors in masse.
Joe, Thanks for the response. Actually I understand their protest, I just don't agree with the method and agree with you on the ultimate outcome. I'd be amazed if there is any tar and feathering going on. Just won't happen.
I'd be amazed if there is any tar and feathering going on. Just won't happen.
Rams
Correct!
There's always someone that is saying we are (or someone is) just on the verge of civil war or uprising. I've always wonder why those same 'someones' don't just go on out and fire the first shots.
I notice you've conveniently ignored the fact that the GoFundMe account for this "protest" has been suspended.
He has also obviously ignored the fact that the CANADIAN Constitution begins with:
"WHEREAS the Provinces of Canada, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick have expressed their Desire to be federally united into One Dominion under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, with a Constitution similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom....
NOT with: "We the people"
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There's always someone that is saying we are (or someone is) just on the verge of civil war or uprising. I've always wonder why those same 'someones' don't just go on out and fire the first shots.
Because having the courage of one's convictions is a rare thing.
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There are few patriots left from my own observations, and there won't be any until their own freedom is threatened or maybe even denied. Then only maybe. We've grown too used to what others have created and defended for us. Many will talk the talk but few are willing to bet their asses to defend what we have. What's that old saying about reading? If you can read this, thank a teacher, if it's in English, thank a soldier.
I think their logic is that one of the major things they are protesting against is being required to be vaccinated to enter the US.
There is no logic. The anti-vax truckers are supposedly protesting that the Canadian government now requires truck drivers coming into Canada to be vaccinated. (No more exemptions.) However, the US also requires truck drivers to be vaccinated before entering the States. So even if the Canadian government capitulated to the truckers demands (which they won't), nothing would change for them... they still wouldn't be able to drive south over the border.
That's how I understand it anyway. Anyone who's interested can double-check Here.
As mentioned previously, 90% of all Canadian cross-border truckers are vaccinated, so it's a very small percentage of Canadian truckers making a fuss.
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Pretty simple to know which side is the right one to be on here.
On one side we got the lefties whining about "Anti-vaxxers".
The other side is freedom.
F the lefties. You guys were 10000% for burning cities down when it suited your agenda. Now trucks are stopped and it's soooo horrible and everybody else is a hypocrite.
I stopped caring when you said January was an insurrection. It doesn't matter what we do, and we aren't stopping to check your feelings on the matter. Your opinion isn't the correct opinion on anything. You support killing babies, having sex with kids, and segregating people based on race. Go check into a hospital and work on getting your mental health in line.
Pretty simple to know which side is the right one to be on here.
On one side we got the lefties whining about "Anti-vaxxers".
The other side is freedom.
F the lefties. You guys were 10000% for burning cities down when it suited your agenda. Now trucks are stopped and it's soooo horrible and everybody else is a hypocrite.
I stopped caring when you said January was an insurrection. It doesn't matter what we do, and we aren't stopping to check your feelings on the matter. Your opinion isn't the correct opinion on anything. You support killing babies, having sex with kids, and segregating people based on race. Go check into a hospital and work on getting your mental health in line.
I didn't think it could be possible, but you make MEM seem reasonable.
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Well, some of us here are cowards and some are not. Some of us see clearly and some.are mostly sheepy, waiting to be told what to think and do. There is very little in between it appears.
Originally posted by blackrams: Many will talk the talk but few are willing to bet their asses to defend what we have. What's that old saying about reading? If you can read this, thank a teacher, if it's in English, thank a soldier.
Rams
As I've already stated, I can support the goal, I am not in favor of mandates. But, not the method being demonstrated, it denies us all of the right to use that asphalt..
If we're talking cowardice versus courage, then the BLM protestors blocking freeways with their bodies put much more on the line than truckers sitting in their warm trucks blocking the road.
I raised hell about the BLM blocking the roads, many here were right there with me. Some won't admit it though. The proof is right here in the archives.
Blocking the roads and streets while sitting in a big rig doesn't take courage. But it does infringe on the rights of all others needing to use that road.
Rams
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Q-Anon started out as an metaphor for US Federal Intelligence Employees (Military and civilian) who were trying to resist internal corruption from leftist ideologies within the Government during the Trump administration. It started on 4Chan, and then like everything else, it blew up to become some mythical person in the depths of secrecy that doesn't really exist. But... just like most other silly things, you get the Internet Research Agency that picks up on these things and pushes crazy stories and ideas, and people will follow... not knowing the difference between fact and fiction. It's not the norm of course... because there's one person with a QAnon flag there, doesn't mean that everyone there believes in it. Though, some people still carry that phrase to mean that Federal / Military should still do right by the Constitution.
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Not at all. Nothing more than a bunch of louts on the loose. You've got to wonder about their actual motivation (and IQ level) when Confederate flags (in Canada? wtf) and swastikas are being flaunted.
Hey Patrick, honest question... do you think it's possible that they have the NAZI flag on there to suggest that Trudeau is a NAZI? I was kind of dismayed when I first saw it, and then it occurred to me that this might be what they're trying to suggest. The Gadsen flag (Don't Tread on Me) and the NAZI flag are basically polar opposites, and the NAZI flag is under the F*CK Trudeau flag. Just a thought.
I haven't been paying attention, but I have not actually seen any of the violence, rioting, and property destruction that the media has been talking about. If there were, I would think I would see it on Twitter or even the news. Are you saying this is going on? It seems more than a simple protest. My opinion, seems like the vaccine mandates are not real popular... and the more time that goes on, the less likely the mandates are going to be effective at all anyway.
When a society begins to reject something, and "leaders" double-down, you're going to increase the rate at which society is going to push back. Any psychologist should realize that this is now a lost cause that they're not going to win. Support or don't support... this will end up being a lost cause and will only cause harm to his administration at this point.
The confederate flag has been a redneck pride symbol for 50+ years, no matter what the left has tried to re-define it as the past 6 or 7.
The nazi flag is more than likely reactionary. The libs want to be offended, FINE, we will give them something to be offended about type thing. They want to label us as nazi's and terrorists ? OK, lets run with and really make them cry.
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There is no logic. The anti-vax truckers are supposedly protesting that the Canadian government now requires truck drivers coming into Canada to be vaccinated. (No more exemptions.) However, the US also requires truck drivers to be vaccinated before entering the States. So even if the Canadian government capitulated to the truckers demands (which they won't), nothing would change for them... they still wouldn't be able to drive south over the border.
That's how I understand it anyway. Anyone who's interested can double-check Here.
As mentioned previously, 90% of all Canadian cross-border truckers are vaccinated, so it's a very small percentage of Canadian truckers making a fuss.
They are not anti-vaccine.
Thay are anti government mandated vax.
Their is a difference and it is important to recognize the difference.