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Oopsie-daisy: 3 shot Olympic runner collapses of heart issues. by sourmash
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"Mysterious" heart issue.

https://en-volve.com/2022/0...ious-heart-problems/

A young and healthy Olympic athlete has been diagnosed with a potentially life threatening heart condition which might end her career.

Doctors told thrice vaccinated Swiss runner Fabienne Schlumpf that she had myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, which caused her heart rate to skyrocket to dangerous levels.

The runner joins a growing group of elite athletes who have developed sudden, severe heart problems, including numerous soccer players who had collapsed suddenly.
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Interesting. "Infowars" even commented upon the original. And they didn't even try to draw the "vax" correlation.
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Originally posted by Raydar:

Interesting. "Infowars" even commented upon the original. And they didn't even try to draw the "vax" correlation.


There's quite a few "offbeat" agenda driven sources out there that put out a lot of misleading information. Their goal is to get more hits and make money. Remember, some folks are constantly saying "Follow the money". From reading the posted article, there is no evidence provided for causation only what some writer concludes. Her condition is normally caused by a viral infection according to the same article. I'm not qualified to suggest what caused it and I doubt anyone involved in this thread is either.

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Yes, scores of athletes are uncommonly collapsing over the past year and even dying strictly from coincidence. OJ was found not guilty and Brandon was the most popular president in history.

A stated side effect of the shots is myocarditis and pericarditis.

Blackrams, I can tell by how you react to many of these articles that you're sorta worried about long term effects. Just let it go. What's done is done.
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Originally posted by Raydar:

Interesting. "Infowars" even commented upon the original. And they didn't even try to draw the "vax" correlation.


Interesting, "Raydar" commented on the article and tried to wag the dog. Predictable.

Here's the source. Good luck translating it.

https://www.thunertagblatt....-open-531431255327/2

Olympia-Aus: SCB-Scherwey wird operiert | Franz gewinnt 2. Lauberhorn-Training

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Originally posted by sourmash:


Interesting, "Raydar" commented on the article and tried to wag the dog. Predictable.

Here's the source. Good luck translating it.
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Yeah, whatever strokes your ego.

You didn't even provide the right link, but I found it.
Here's the text. Which also doesn't say sh!t about a correlation:

Athletics: Smurf with myocarditis
The Swiss marathon record holder Fabienne Schlumpf suffers from an inflammation of the heart muscle. When the 31-year-old felt very tired in everyday life before Christmas and after an easy endurance run and her heartbeat was violent, she had herself examined. “I don't know the cause of the inflammation. It's definitely not an easy time, but I have to accept it, ”says the Zurich Oberland native. A viral infection usually leads to myocarditis, but Schlumpf does not see a connection with corona. She has been vaccinated and boosted and has not been infected so far. She actually wanted to go to a training camp in Portugal at the beginning of the year, but nothing came of that. "Nobody can say how long I have to pause."


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Originally posted by Raydar:


Yeah, whatever strokes your ego.

You didn't even provide the right link, but I found it.
Here's the text. Which also doesn't say sh!t about a correlation:

Athletics: Smurf with myocarditis
The Swiss marathon record holder Fabienne Schlumpf suffers from an inflammation of the heart muscle. When the 31-year-old felt very tired in everyday life before Christmas and after an easy endurance run and her heartbeat was violent, she had herself examined. “I don't know the cause of the inflammation. It's definitely not an easy time, but I have to accept it, ”says the Zurich Oberland native. A viral infection usually leads to myocarditis, but Schlumpf does not see a connection with corona. She has been vaccinated and boosted and has not been infected so far. She actually wanted to go to a training camp in Portugal at the beginning of the year, but nothing came of that. "Nobody can say how long I have to pause."



"A viral infection usually leads to myocarditis, but Schlumpf does not see a connection with corona. She has been vaccinated and boosted and has not been infected so far."

Three shots of experimental therapy goo (which may help prevent serious case of corona) go into her arm...then, myocarditis.

Three people I know got sick after their 3 shots of joy and ended up with myocarditis.

It's pretty bad that possible side effects of the vaccines is not even something people are able to openly discuss in many parts of the world.

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Blackrams, I can tell by how you react to many of these articles that you're sorta worried about long term effects. Just let it go. What's done is done.


Let me assure you, there is no reason for concern. I'm very comfortable with my decision. You see, I recognize that everyone will eventually get one of the COVID variants/mutations. Taking precautionary measures only makes sense to me. Any anxiety I may have ever felt would have been as I was getting my first vaccination during the ongoing research project. That slight anxiety has been thoroughly and completely erased by the results of the research study and the results of millions of recipients across this nation and the rest of the world. The vaccinations have reduced the impact of this virus.
Be sure to let us know when it gets around to you.

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"A viral infection usually leads to myocarditis, but Schlumpf does not see a connection with corona. She has been vaccinated and boosted and has not been infected so far."

Three shots of experimental therapy goo (which may help prevent serious case of corona) go into her arm...then, myocarditis.

Three people I know got sick after their 3 shots of joy and ended up with myocarditis.

It's pretty bad that possible side effects of the vaccines is not even something people are able to openly discuss in many parts of the world.

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I'm sorry to hear about your friends. Do you have any details? Ages? Which Vax? Time frame after vax?
All of that stuff is (IMHO) pertinent info.

However... even knowing that, I am comfortable with my decision(s). I know(knew) several people who died of COVID. My doctor is also very much in favor of the vax.

The trouble is, some people just cannot accept that whatever they have chosen to do (or not do) may be the wrong choice for somebody else. They feel the need to bludgeon everyone who will listen, into believing as they do.


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Two were under 20, the third was older, but had just gone in for a full round of (routine) scans and tests right before and all that and the myocarditis was "likely caused by the vaccine" (according to his doctor).


I hear ya, It's just frustrating that there hasn't really been 'open' debates regarding much of this stuff...

https://youtu.be/hOlEYcd1nyI

the guy interviewing them irked me a little...

“I understand that but obviously we have to weigh all that up for both health and social care and there will always be a debate about it … ”

"we take the very best advice that was can...from the people that are "vaccine EXPERTS" "

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:


Two were under 20, the third was older, but had just gone in for a full round of (routine) scans and tests right before and all that and the myocarditis was "likely caused by the vaccine" (according to his doctor).


I hear ya, It's just frustrating that there hasn't really been 'open' debates regarding much of this stuff...

https://youtu.be/hOlEYcd1nyI

the guy interviewing them irked me a little...

“I understand that but obviously we have to weigh all that up for both health and social care and there will always be a debate about it … ”

"we take the very best advice that was can...from the people that are "vaccine EXPERTS" "

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I agree that the goal posts have been moved, we were told somethings and then as more was learned, we were told other things. One thing I hope all agree on is that no vaccine is for everyone. There will always be exceptions. I'm sorry to learn of your folks' problems, I'm not qualified to suggest anything about them. What I do know is, I'm in the Moderna Research Study, there have been some folks that did get COVID after being vaccinated but none have been hospitalized and no one in my group has died of COVID. I've also attended four different memorials for unvaccinated friends that three of them got their virus from unvaccinated family members. The source of infection of the fourth person remains unknown.

I am not for mandated COVID vaccinations, never have been but, I do think it's silly to not take precautionary measures to include getting vaccinated (unless a medical doctor says you shouldn't). I have a close friend who is immune system compromised due to his kidney transplant who is suffering from COVID, he is vaccinated and boosted. He went to the ER and was sent home to rest. The hospital had beds available.

I have a few anti-vax friends that don't trust the CDC and that's alright with me. They are adults and can make their own decisions. The difference I see here is, not everyone has grown up. It's their way or the highway concerning this virus. I don't see it that way. Follow your own path. Be responsible because, you (they) are also responsible for those they spread this virus to when they eventually get it.

I also expect to see health insurance rates increase dramatically. Those companies are not in the business to lose money for their investors. I also expect the rates to be higher for unvaccinated people. All COVID vaccinations are reported to the state where the injections took place, I expect insurance companies to verify vaccinations due to fake CDC cards being sold. Those people possessing/using and selling those fake CDC cards should be prosecuted IMO.

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Originally posted by Raydar:


Yeah, whatever strokes your ego.

You didn't even provide the right link, but I found it.
Here's the text. Which also doesn't say sh!t about a correlation:

Athletics: Smurf with myocarditis
The Swiss marathon record holder Fabienne Schlumpf suffers from an inflammation of the heart muscle. When the 31-year-old felt very tired in everyday life before Christmas and after an easy endurance run and her heartbeat was violent, she had herself examined. “I don't know the cause of the inflammation. It's definitely not an easy time, but I have to accept it, ”says the Zurich Oberland native. A viral infection usually leads to myocarditis, but Schlumpf does not see a connection with corona. She has been vaccinated and boosted and has not been infected so far. She actually wanted to go to a training camp in Portugal at the beginning of the year, but nothing came of that. "Nobody can say how long I have to pause."



Stated side effect of the covid shots are myocarditis and pericarditis. She's triple shot up. If you have a problem with those side effects of heart inflammation like she has, take it up with the manufactures that know this is possible.
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I'm sorry to hear about your friends. Do you have any details? Ages? Which Vax? Time frame after vax?
All of that stuff is (IMHO) pertinent info.

However... even knowing that, I am comfortable with my decision(s). I know(knew) several people who died of COVID. My doctor is also very much in favor of the vax.

The trouble is, some people just cannot accept that whatever they have chosen to do (or not do) may be the wrong choice for somebody else. They feel the need to bludgeon everyone who will listen, into believing as they do.



Almost nobody dies OF covid. We know that. People die of life style choices.

Your doctor and all of them recommend all kinds of drugs like opiods and statins which they invest in and believe manufacturers when they said pain killers weren't addictive. Then they get recalled or get sued for lying like Perdue just did.

Look, the jig is up. All the propaganda falls away as every new study disproves the claims. Everybody who believed is starting to wake up. You guys believed masks prevented transmission. Yeah, like a chain link fence stops mosquitoes.
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A virus that kills people dies out. The variants become less dangerous and more transmissible. That's the rules.

I go out to night clubs constantly. Twenty-eight days straight in the fall. We hug, occasionally share a drink that someone is trying or we pass things around vaping or what not. Plenty of times people pass me something for me to pass across the room. We handle each other's phones. Shake hands, share tables, chairs, musical instruments. Sometimes someone in the crowd gets covid. I can think of 6 or 7.

Last month something cold-like started sweeping through the group with incredible speed. I was one of the 1st, but will never know if it was covid. Just my sinuses were the thing. Nothing else.
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My thought... we won't know until the politics are over... but with the limited time this form of vaccine had for development, I think we're going to see a lot of adverse reactions from this... and myocarditis seems to be discussed a LOT. I'm not a doctor, and I don't pretend to be one, but there are a lot of people talking about this (myocarditis), and NO one saying it isn't so.
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Brazillian model, 18 years old, double jabbed dies of covid.

https://www.euroweeklynews....razilian-model-dies/

And there's this from December.

SYDNEY (Reuters) -New Zealand authorities on Monday said they had linked a 26-year-old man's death to Pfizer Inc's COVID-19 vaccine after the person suffered myocarditis, a rare inflammation of the heart muscle, after taking his first dose.

The death is New Zealand's second linked to a known but rare side effect from the vaccine after health authorities in August reported a woman had died after taking her doses.

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Oh, wait. The 18 year old Brazilian model died of another item I missed. A blood clot. Yeah, covid causes blood clots? The shots cause them.

She was double jabbed.

“The daughter of beloved model and businesswoman Marcia Boscardin died at the weekend, aged just 18, after suffering a thrombosis while she was fighting coronavirus.

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I just heard that a person who was triple jabbed died in an auto accident. I guess some here will conclude the vaccine caused it.

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I just heard that a person who was triple jabbed died in an auto accident. I guess some here will conclude the vaccine caused it.



I almost ran out of gas in my wife's convertible the other day, I'm confident having gotten vaccinated is the reason I made it to the fuel station.

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No. Covid causes all those conditions.
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