Americans are creating their own COVID-19 vaccine mandates. According to new data from The Harris Poll, at least 30% of Millennials or Gen Zers in the U.S. say they have cut ties with a friend, family member or acquaintance because they wouldn’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.
The poll, which was provided first to Axios, surveyed 1,334 U.S. adults in August 2021, and categorized them by generation.
The poll shows that 33% of millennials say they have cuts ties with somebody in their life over not getting vaccinated against COVID-19, compared with 30% of Gen Zers, 9% of Gen Xers and 7% of baby boomers.
“It’s the new cultural dividing line,” John Gerzema, CEO of The Harris Poll, told Axios.
Of all four generations surveyed, millennials are the group most likely to have younger children who are unvaccinated, which could contribute to the divide as parents may be concerned about the safety of their kids — none of the COVID-19 vaccines have been approved by the FDA for children under the age of 12 in the U.S.
In addition, older Americans tend to have a higher COVID-19 vaccination rate, which could contribute to the survey’s generational divide. Older Americans may know fewer unvaccinated people as 90.1% of Americans 65 and older have received at least one dose of the vaccine, compared with 59.7% of the overall U.S. population, according to the CDC’s COVID-19 vaccine tracker.
In the past few weeks, more employers announced plans to mandate COVID-19 vaccinations for workers who report to in-person offices. Employees can get shots developed by Pfizer with German partner BioNTech or Moderna or one shot of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose vaccine.
Cases for the novel coronavirus continue to rise due to the highly transmissible Delta variant.
The survey comes as many U.S. cities are starting to roll out COVID-19 vaccination rules as cases in the hit a six-month high.
Interesting data (assuming it's accurate). While I and my wife are both vaccinated with the Moderna two "jab", I can honestly say that we have not cut ties with anyone vaccinated or not. I find it somewhat troubling that one would allow this to damage family ties. But, that's just me. I have been asked to not stop by a relative's home a while back because they had not been vaccinated so, I didn't but, based on the relationship with one half of that couple, I question their true reasons.
Yes folks, even in my blessed life, there are folks who disagree with my positions on some things. That's OK, everyone has a right to be wrong.
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That whole thing is a symptom of a MUCH larger societal problem. Millennials, Woke, Karens, Snowflakes. Whatever name you plaster on them, there is a LARGE group of people who think they run the show, and the world revolves around what THEY want or like. They just cant handle the idea that no they arent, no it doesn't, no they are not special, and no nobody really gives 2 craps if they are offffeeeeennnnnndddddeeeeedddddd.
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I wouldn't cut ties with a friend, that's really silly..
But.. They aren't coming into my home around my family without the shot.
Well, maybe it's silly, maybe it's not.
If COVID (pick your flavor) is as advertised, hidden symptoms for 10 days to 2 weeks or around that and highly transmittable, your friend could be COVID infected and not know it or you could. Your friend really doesn't have to be around your family if, you are socializing with others. By socializing with those other friends, you could very well carry the COVID virus home and not know it.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, I have not changed who I deal with or, what I do with the exception of wearing a mask when required and I don't like doing that but, if I chose to go somewhere and that somewhere says, wear a mask, it's their property/store/office. It's my choice to enter and their choice to put safety and health restrictions on those who enter their property. I can usually go somewhere else. Be safe and have a COVID free day.
Originally posted by blackrams: Well, maybe it's silly, maybe it's not.
If COVID (pick your flavor) is as advertised, hidden symptoms for 10 days to 2 weeks or around that and highly transmittable, your friend could be COVID infected and not know it or you could. Your friend really doesn't have to be around your family if, you are socializing with others. By socializing with those other friends, you could very well carry the COVID virus home and not know it.
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, I have not changed who I deal with or, what I do with the exception of wearing a mask when required and I don't like doing that but, if I chose to go somewhere and that somewhere says, wear a mask, it's their property/store/office. It's my choice to enter and their choice to put safety and health restrictions on those who enter their property. I can usually go somewhere else. Be safe and have a COVID free day.
Rams
Yeah well my social life isn't exactly thriving these days lol.. But i do have to deal with lots of people at work, and living here in Alabama, the large majority of them are not vaccinated, nor will they wear masks. So when i go home, i enter through the downstairs back door to the laundry room, then straight too the shower and clean off.. Best i can do..
Yeah well my social life isn't exactly thriving these days lol.. But i do have to deal with lots of people at work, and living here in Alabama, the large majority of them are not vaccinated, nor will they wear masks. So when i go home, i enter through the downstairs back door to the laundry room, then straight too the shower and clean off.. Best i can do..
Not much different in rural Mississippi. Well, except for coming through the back door. With the laundry room out on the front porch and the hose/shower off to the side by the mule shed, it's a quick naked run to the house and them dang skeeters are fast.
Blacks aren't getting those experimental injections. Blacks are smarter than Whites.
I dont want injected people around me, shedding their Frankenstein proteins and variants, but there's no way of knowing which are and whicha aren't.
Sure there is, just ask to see their COVID Vaccination card.
BTW, I'm getting my Booster Shot in early September so you don't have to ask me. Guess I'm one of those dumb white folks. Most of us Dummies carry it and are proud to show it off, just ask and you will receive. Honestly, I never got the impression you were any race but, I guess you've just outed youself. I started to correct your punctuation and grammar in the above quote but, I figured you were comfortable with it the way it was.
Rams
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Or I could edit my post like you did. Wouldn't that give me a cheap feeling of superiority? I post on a phone. And seeing just isnt what it use to be. I'm one of the odd smart White people. Me and the Black folks will some of be the last people left.
Or I could edit my post like you did. Wouldn't that give me a cheap feeling of superiority? I post on a phone. And seeing just isnt what it use to be. I'm one of the odd smart White people. Me and the Black folks will some of be the last people left.
Mr. Mash, I have absolutely no way to edit your original post, I could only edit it if, I did it in the quote. Which I didn't.
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I'm one of the odd smart White people.
I'll have to take your word on race. Intelligence? Won't make that judgement. Odd? Well, it's your self proclaimed description. If you say so.
Mr. Mash, I have absolutely no way to edit your original post, I could only edit it if, I did it in the quote. Which I didn't.
Bless your heart, honey. You edited YOUR post. I could do that too, but that wouldn't do anything thrilling for me. Just more squinting to read, imo. That gives you crow's feet.
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Originally posted by blackrams:I'll have to take your word on race. Intelligence? Won't make that judgement. Odd? Well, it's your self proclaimed description. If you say so. Rams
I'm gonna be the diversity left in New America. My genes will be preserved to repopulate the Earth with some amount of Whiteness. The genes of the injected will be erased for eternity.
I'm gonna be the diversity left in New America. My genes will be preserved to repopulate the Earth with some amount of Whiteness.
Now there's a scary thought.
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The genes of the injected will be erased for eternity.
If that thought process makes you happy, then by all means, go with it. Personally, I quit passing on my genes decades ago. So yeah, when I'm gone, I'm pretty sure I'll be taking what genes I have left with me.
This thread and it's responses just prove the point that we're separating ourselves by choice. We've always done things like that. Just as randye points out his own attitude below, that home owner has a right to who he invites into his home. But then, so do the owners of business (for safety and health reasons). Kind of like No Shirts, No Shoes, No Service rules. I would make exceptions to that for some, not so much for others.
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As for the thread topic, I don't want to be in the home of, or even around, anyone that wants to see a damn vaccination record from me.
We make decisions for our own reasons, right or wrong. A racist won't be invited into my own home whether that person is vaccinated or not. But then, COVID vaccination is not something I ask folks about. I have never asked someone to see their COVID vaccination card but if asked, I'm very willing to pull mine out of my wallet to show my card. Some folks get upset over the silliest things. But, that's also their right.
Rams
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We make decisions for our own reasons, right or wrong. A racist won't be invited into my own home whether that person is vaccinated or not. But then, COVID vaccination is not something I ask folks about. I have never asked someone to see their COVID vaccination card but if asked, I'm very willing to pull mine out of my wallet to show my card. Some folks get upset over the silliest things. But, that's also their right.
Rams
I'm not "upset" about any of that in the least Ron.
I also don't know how we suddenly jumped from medial treatments to racism, but as my Grandkids say; whatever
I do indeed make my decisions for my own reasons and the reason I detest being around hypochondriacs and mysophobiacs is based on long experience.
In far too many otherwise pleasant social situations once a hypochondriac discovers that you are in any way involved in a medical profession they will invariably bend your ear incessantly with a long list of their real and imagined maladies and long boring stories of their treatments. If you respond in any way they take it as license to continue on for hours.
It's mostly women, especially mature women, but an increasing number of beta males are proving to be hypochondriacs as well.
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I'm not "upset" about any of that in the least Ron.
I also don't know how we suddenly jumped from medial treatments to racism, but as my Grandkids say; whatever
I do indeed make my decisions for my own reasons and the reason I detest being around hypochondriacs and mysophobiacs is based on long experience.
In far too many otherwise pleasant social situations once a hypochondriac discovers that you are in any way involved in a medical profession they will invariably bend your ear incessantly with a long list of their real and imagined maladies and long boring stories of their treatments. If you respond in any way they take it as license to continue on for hours.
It's mostly women, especially mature women, but an increasing number of beta males are proving to be hypochondriacs as well.
Randye, Reference the racist thing, I'm thinking you'd have to ask another poster about that, my post was simply a response to that member. As far as hypochondriacs go, I'll simply accept your statement. Never heard of mysophobiacs before so I'll have to look that one up (or not). Hell, I may be one. Beta males huh............. OK.
Originally posted by randye: I also don't know how we suddenly jumped from medial treatments to racism, but as my Grandkids say; whatever
It's bizarre, isnt it? These people are so predictable and easily triggered to respond in a statement that was prepared for them. They have this race card to virtue signal with. They now have the vax card that serves a similar function. Neither require intelligible reasoning. Neither have any substance backing them when used.
They're just corporately, commercially printed and distributed flash card labels that give the user some self aggrandizing moral holiness for affixing them to other people who have a differing opinion.
It's bizarre, isnt it? These people are so predictable and easily triggered to respond in a statement that was prepared for them. They have this race card to virtue signal with. They now have the vax card that serves a similar function. Neither require intelligible reasoning. Neither have any substance backing them when used.
They're just corporately, commercially printed and distributed flash card labels that give the user some self aggrandizing moral holiness for affixing them to other people who have a differing opinion.
Most people who use the race card are White. They live in heavily White populated areas. If they go to church, it's a White congregation by a heavy majority. They marry White spouses to have White children. They work/worked with mostly White coworkers. The occasional White race card man will marry an Asian White skinned female.
The race card player will make all these racially motivated choices and pretend they aren't racist. Now they gave you a health card. snickering..
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Most people who use the race card are White. They live in heavily White populated areas. If they go to church, it's a White congregation by a heavy majority. They marry White spouses to have White children. They work/worked with mostly White coworkers. The occasional White race card man will marry an Asian White skinned female.
The race card player will make all these racially motivated choices and pretend they aren't racist. Now they gave you a health card. snickering..
Yeah, Yeah............ Bla, Bla, Bla.............. Have heard such rhetoric from folks like yourself before. Throw the race card and then claim "others" are racist. This isn't even worth my attention. Your comments only verify what your racist position is. Honestly, could not care less about your position, only you are responsible for the positions you take and the words you type. Just as I am. There is a demographic difference in who is getting the vaccine. I don't pretend to have the answers but then, I'm one of those old white dumb guys. Maybe you should run for office and get us straighten out once you get elected. Anxious to see how that works out.
Edited: I have things to do today rather than trade barbs with the "smart guys". See you on the flip side if I can't avoid it.
Rams
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Yeah, Yeah............ Bla, Bla, Bla.............. Have heard such rhetoric from folks like yourself before. Throw the race card and then claim "others" are racist. This isn't even worth my attention. Your comments only verify what your racist position is. Honestly, could not care less about your position, only you are responsible for the positions you take and the words you type. Just as I am. There is a demographic difference in who is getting the vaccine. I don't pretend to have the answers but then, I'm one of those old white dumb guys. Maybe you should run for office and get us straighten out once you get elected. Anxious to see how that works out.
Edited: I have things to do today rather than trade barbs with the "smart guys". See you on the flip side if I can't avoid it. Rams
Hey, guy, your own statements are calling you a liar. I'm just the guy observing your words.
You used the word racist, pulled your race card while pointing at me while responding to Randye. You now say you didn't bring racism up.
You perfectly IDed yourself as the hypocrite I accurately described typical race card player. All race card users are easily outed. Thank you for proving it so quickly.
You can't edit my words, fortunately. They say Blacks aren't getting injected, which makes them smarter than White injected people. If there is such a thing as reverse racism, saying another race is smarter than your own defines reverse racism. Does that make me holier than thou?
Do you live in a White neighborhood? Did you marry a White woman? Did you work with mostly White people and go to a mostly White church. No, you're not racist at all. It's the other guy you're better than, right? Bullchit.
PRO TIP FOR THE VIEWER: We all want a screaming deal, right? Check the real estate values in your nearest city. The predominantly Black areas have home values multiples cheaper than heavily White areas. You can get a larger home than your current one for a 6th of the cost if you buy in a predominantly Black area. The lower home values have a perk of lower property taxes too.
If you aren't making racial choices, then why would you spend 4 to 6 to 10 times the money just to live in a White area?
Don't be racist. Being racist can cost you a small fortune in real estate costs. Another benefit with the lower home cost is the virtue signaling benefit you will get by saying you aren't racist. Super simple. Live your values for a change. Or are you living your real values?
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Do a search of BLACKS VACCINES. The responses fetched are all about refusals to get them. Almost none of the reponses just state who isnt getting jabbed. And while the media narrative has been that White Republicans are the people resisting taking part in the experiments, you find the lowest percentages are minorities. By far.
The results you get from that search are almost all about WHY Black people don't get the EXPERIMENTAL injections. Experimental means experimental to them. The gov didn't inject Black men with syphilis, but the Tuskegee syphilis study was about studying the results of contracting untreated disease. The gov study claimed it was treating an ailment but wasnt. I believe this study went on until 1972 or so.
Gov mislead the populace. Fortunately that was the only time gov has ever lied to the people and it will never do that again. If you don't believe everything gov tells you then you are a conspiracy theorist. Period. You really are.The Nazis in charge of the Tuskegee syphilis study stood trial and were executed by lethal injection. You have nothing to worry about.
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It's bizarre, isnt it? These people are so predictable and easily triggered to respond in a statement that was prepared for them. They have this race card to virtue signal with. They now have the vax card that serves a similar function. Neither require intelligible reasoning. Neither have any substance backing them when used.
They're just corporately, commercially printed and distributed flash card labels that give the user some self aggrandizing moral holiness for affixing them to other people who have a differing opinion.
It's the moral equivalent of Smolleting a hoax.
I don't think that you and I see this the same way.
I neither said or intended anything about politics or ideology.
The sole point I was making is that there are people in this world, (hypochondriacs and mysophobiacs), who tend to have irrational fears and preoccupation about their health.
Until recently those folks were not as noticeable or seemingly prevalent in our society but this panic-demic has brought them to the forefront.
Perhaps the media and politicized government health agencies have had a part in intentionally exacerbating it but, again, I made no mention of that.
The old saying used to be "Do not discuss politics or religion in general company”.
Now we probably should add health to the taboos for discussion in polite general company.
I've already said it a couple of times before on this forum but this is a good time to repeat it:
"If someone isn't doing a study of the prevalence of hypochondria and mysophibia in the population right now they are missing a golden opportunity."
Now there's a scary thought.
