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The Great Patreon Purge by Rageaholic
Started on: 12-11-2018 06:48 PM
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Report this Post12-11-2018 06:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RageaholicSend a Private Message to RageaholicEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
and the death of discourse.

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Report this Post12-11-2018 07:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The future is for the young.
We had our World, just as our Fathers had theirs.

"Everything we hear is opinion, not fact. And everything we see is perspective, not truth." – Marcus Aurelius
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Alice cooper has quite the vocabulary. And speaks the truth ruth

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Report this Post12-12-2018 08:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FatsSend a Private Message to FatsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't know this channel, but I subscribed. He speaks the truth.... But these days speaking the truth only leads to being silenced.

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Report this Post12-12-2018 11:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I tend to agree that there probably isn't a conspiracy involved. It's group-think, aka the collective subconscious.

It's ironic how people turn to Patreon because of YouTube censorship, only to deal with similar treatment from Patreon. But thankfully, Patreon isn't as anti-2nd-amendment as YouTube (yet). A lot of gun-related YouTube channels have turned to Patreon, because YouTube demonetizes anything gun related.
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Originally posted by shemdogg:

Alice cooper has quite the vocabulary. And speaks the truth ruth

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Is that Brett the hit man Hart?
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LMAO u nailed it tony!

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All kidding aside, the OP has some interesting truths to be told.
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When media controls the content you get to see.
well.
Some might just call that state run media.
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

When media controls the content you get to see.
well.
Some might just call that state run media.


For sure.
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Report this Post12-17-2018 12:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
See also... (All YT links)
You Cannot Trust Patreon and The Patreon Witch Trials from Sargon of Akkad
The Patreon Problem from a "Bleeding Hart" moving to SubscribeStar
Sargon Banned. A Legal Analysis. and part 2 from a Lawyer.

Never heard of their channels before now. Sargon isn't first or even rare case. I've trying to find a few examples w/o BS plus Sargon says about it.
This doesn't even get much or any Tech press when Patreon cancel others before Sargon and is not a "MSM Bias" problem either but I'll get back to that in a bit.

This should not surprise anyone. Nor should shock anyone when a CEO lying to the public and others and X co ban everything they don't like just like FB Twitter etc. A lot of Patreon users have stopped all payments and cancel the accounts and Many YT channels of any types are seeing reduce members and money from Patreon because of this and likely why "FranLab" w/ Blocked Comments and others are having Patreon issues now. IOW Some are waking up that Patreon is BS that will Not "Save" content makers from Google, PayPal, and others. Very likely SubscribeStar and others will do same in the near future.

And any that think Patreon SubscribeStar and other "Crowd Funding" scams sites support 2A are fooling themselves. Only reason they still allow TAOFLEDERMAUS et al is for the money from member because they dream of getting 0.001% of Google and YT revenue. Only a matter of time before they to dump all gun related items even w/o Brady and other groups forcing them.
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Originally posted by E.Furgal:
When media controls the content you get to see.
well.
Some might just call that state run media.
Is far worse then that because people sign up and never bother trying to read the ToS, EULA, and fake "Privacy Policy" that gives Most to ALL "Rights" to the Company. "So I'll sue them!" Good luck w/ that... Most have Arbitration Clauses in the ToS/EULA. Even MS Win 8 and 10 have it so it's very hard to impossible to sue MS for crashing millions of units every time they force upgrade Win10. This is likely why Cnet, The Register The Inquirer (UK sites), etc, doesn't care or report this "Patreon Purge" because is likely 100% legal regardless what YT "Stars" are complaining about.

IOW Most People making a job out of YT etc never bothered to read ToS etc and now many whining YT FB etc demonetizing or outright killed the account has nothing and can't even sue most times. Plus many YT and other web "Stars" and whole sites will have problems w/ EU "Article 13" Copyright Rules that may kill more accounts w/ little or no warring. Article 13 could kill PFF and a lot more.

I think this sucks but little anyone can do because if you stop using X service or software, The Y that replace it likely has same crap in the ToS etc. In the US, Congress and US Courts have made these problems even harder for users of nearly everything.
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Report this Post12-18-2018 02:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I missed "Then They Came For SubscribeStar" from Sargon
SubscribeStar is apparently a Russian Co. in the video so maybe will stay up and not have worse problems. I don't have time to dig up every CF service but whois report as GoDaddy site and LA, CA Phone # on the site.

If they or any other CF services are in the US... shouldn't trust them for reasons above. Or the company is bought soon by Google, Patreon, etc, then your back to square one.
Send money to other countries even if the companies are good... do not use main credit cards or worse debit cards or anything tied to your bank like most PayPal account even if PayPal doesn't ban them.
If the foreign company is bogus for any reason you can loose a lot of money from hackers or US and other Govrmnts can make far worse problems.

SubscribeStar ToS:
 
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General Conditions
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time.

Sounds like can do same as Patreon is doing now but everyone is just trusting them... again... like they trusted Patreon...
The rest of ToS simple to read but few will do so.

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