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Report this Post07-11-2018 06:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am building a house and I am the general, so I am the owner/builder. As of right now I plan to frame it, trim it, maybe other things like the stone but not sure right now. You are allowed to general your own house, but banks won't really like to loan you money to do it, I only found two and the one I used (Zion's) is making me jump through a lot of hoops to do it.

So it's being built in Tremonton, UT. I bought the land about a year ago. It's .43 of an acre and it's on the side of a mountain with a view of the city (awesome at night) and the mountain range beyond. I'll get pics up one day. I want to get into the "costs" of buying the land. I think it was around $4,000 for fees and closing costs, I'll have to look if I find time (I should be able to find time, working two jobs, building this house and three kids, right?).

I'll continue to update this if there's any interest. But I must say that generaling your own house can save you a ton of money (I think I will save around $50,000 between me being the general and doing the framing, trim and anything else I dare try). But I also have 17 years experience framing with a few years of that doing trim and hardwood floors. My bank will give me a construction loan with me as the general only because I used to have a B100 general contractors license and I have 17 years experience, plus I work part time for a builder.

Costs so far:
The lot: $33,000
Plans: 2,650
Permit, plan review, Inspections: 8,620
Staking for foundation: 650
Excavation: 10,450

Right now I am in the process of getting my construction loan and will update as I go.

Today I am also meeting the excavator at the lot in hopes he can dig it soon.

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Report this Post07-11-2018 06:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HudiniSend a Private Message to HudiniEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice. Plenty of pictures if you can.
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Report this Post07-11-2018 09:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GTGeffSend a Private Message to GTGeffEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

My wife and I served as the general contractor thirty years ago in the house we are currently in. (Just paid off the mortgage on July 1st.) We had the basement foundation, framing, heat/AC, and plumbing done. The rest we participated in with a lot of sweat equity. Total of 2646 sq. ft. on a heavily wooded 6/10 of an acre lot.

Good luck. I look forward to seeing photos and progress.

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Report this Post07-11-2018 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Talked to the excavator and he's pretty worried about the dry weeds in my lot and across the side of the mountain. My lot has a lot of huge rocks buried in it. I'm gonna ask my two neighbors if we can use hoses to water it down for a bit before we start digging, which will be late next week.

Trying to get some pics loaded.

Excavator locked in, but he's not too happy with the people I have staking it out, so I'll see what I can do about that.
Here's a link to my land until I figure out pics. https://www.movoto.com/trem...t-84337-511_1350930/

Excavator: $10,450 doesn't include gravel.

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Report this Post07-11-2018 09:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Love the plan, LOOK AT THAT GARAGE
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Report this Post07-11-2018 09:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, I'm thinking about moving the pantry over by the door from the laundry because I need that space
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Report this Post07-11-2018 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I hope it does not take up the space for the 2 post lift LOL
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Report this Post07-11-2018 10:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I hope I can afford a lift when it's done! I'm having the concrete poured thicker where the posts for the lift will be. Note the gas heater in the corner too.

This deck will have a nice view. I have to get a pic at night when the town is lit up.

9' basement, 9' main level walls, 12' tall walls through the foyer and living area.
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Report this Post07-11-2018 11:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KhwSend a Private Message to KhwEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
How did I never notice you being in Ogden?
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Report this Post07-12-2018 12:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Wow, amazing
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Report this Post07-12-2018 06:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nice plan! Don't care what you do, within six months of completion, you will wish you had done something differently.
Been there, done that.

You're embarking on an excellent adventure, enjoy the journey....

Edited: Just remember this, as you age, you will come to hate stairs. There are exception but, few and far between. Best wishes.

Rams

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My wife and I did the same thing in '95. 2800 square feet on 2.5 acres here in Md. I was the general, and my brother, brother in law, and step dad were the crew. I had no previous homebuilding experience and the hoops I had to jump through were incredible but I believe necessary. We did the blockwork, concrete, framing, roofing and all finish work. Took approx. 1 year. The only thing subbed out was the electric, plumbing and hvac. Three kids but only one job though. I had always heard horror stories about inspectors but they were a big help in getting it done right. It's still standing and we just paid it off this month. Good luck to you and your family on the adventure.
BTW, the garage is never big enough!
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Originally posted by blackrams:Edited: Just remember this, as you age, you will come to hate stairs.

I so agree. Make sure that you can figure a way to live there on one level only, maximum of a step you can ramp at some point. Even if just to can for some elderly family at some point.
My knees hurt at least slight, always at 52.

Neat plan you have worked out. My preference is to have the kitchen open to the main visiting room. Not really felt a desire for a living room but, it could be anything like a home office or, the library where visiting can be done more privately from the main family room.
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Does it cool off at night? A whole house fan that sucks the heat through the windows to the crawl space in the attic works very well.
We put ceiling fans in many areas of my house and can weather the temperatures much higher in comfort. You can do cheap ones and just make sure the support and wiring is there for now. One of the ones I got in my house is 10 times as expensive as one I put in my rental but, it is cool and I can afford it.
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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

I hope I can afford a lift when it's done! I'm having the concrete poured thicker where the posts for the lift will be. Note the gas heater in the corner too.

This deck will have a nice view. I have to get a pic at night when the town is lit up.

9' basement, 9' main level walls, 12' tall walls through the foyer and living area.


If you plan on installing a lift, think about the ceiling height required to install one in. My shop ceiling is at 12 feet.
Build accordingly.

Rams

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Report this Post07-13-2018 05:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Lol... "STORAGE"

… another word for... "Massive workshop for cars and a place to have a car lift, work benches, and a plethora of tools spread about."
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Love these threads as it's something I want to do myself... Though I now hopefully have the sense to admit I probably never will be able to. (Lack of skills, drive, Money, talent....)

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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

I hope I can afford a lift when it's done! I'm having the concrete poured thicker where the posts for the lift will be. Note the gas heater in the corner too.

This deck will have a nice view. I have to get a pic at night when the town is lit up.

9' basement, 9' main level walls, 12' tall walls through the foyer and living area.


Is it secluded enough to put a few windows on the back of the Garage? That would add the view to the garage, and free lighting during the day.
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Originally posted by Fats:

Is it secluded enough to put a few windows on the back of the Garage? That would add the view to the garage, and free lighting during the day.



I concur with this assessment.
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Report this Post07-14-2018 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am adding a window at the back for air flow. The windows will also open up because I have a window AC unit from my old house that might come in handy in the summer even though the garage is on the shady side of the house, because of the views. Also, the window in the pantry will not be there, they charge $90 an hour to make changes to the plans. That was a bathroom.

I have already hit a snag. Work won't start until the construction loan closes.
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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

I am adding a window at the back for air flow. The windows will also open up because I have a window AC unit from my old house that might come in handy in the summer even though the garage is on the shady side of the house, because of the views. Also, the window in the pantry will not be there, they charge $90 an hour to make changes to the plans. That was a bathroom.

I have already hit a snag. Work won't start until the construction loan closes.


I don't know if you plan to control the temp/environment with AC/Heat I your garage area but if not, consider some type of ventilation system to draw fumes out of your garage. Personally, my shop uses three squirrel cage blowers that suck air out of the shop. The kind you find in whole house heat/AC systems. I have no ventilation issues.

Rams

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I have a basement garage that is about 2300 square feet. I ended up installing a full blown HVAC system and am very happy with the result. The system was not in the initial design, but two years later I was convinced that it was needed. I certainly is nice to work in a decent temperature when it is either blazing hot or freezing cold outside.

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Wasn't much interest, but here it is ( it's a bit further along than this)

100% framed by me alone.
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Looking good!
That's a lot of work!
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Personally, I like this kind of thing.

I have never framed a home myself. My grandfather did, and that has always been a dream of mine to follow. Thanks for posting.
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Thats coming out awesome! I remodeled my lil place, but half of its new. Its lotsa work but its enjoyable

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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:

Wasn't much interest, but here it is ( it's a bit further along than this)

100% framed by me alone.


Very cool. Looks great.
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Report this Post03-28-2019 09:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SCCA FIEROSend a Private Message to SCCA FIEROEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It's been an experience. Nobody else cut or nailed anything, but I did have help lifting some walls. Like this monster.

20' tall, almost 20' long.


Money shot!

Another money shot...

Right now I'm below budget enough I am trying to do radiant floors, which is around $28,000.
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I had to figure you had "some" help. But great for you to build it yourself.

I am betting that the code folks are pretty cool about the idea of you building it yourself. I always enjoy talking to them. And listening.
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I'm impressed.
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I like it. A little close to the neighbors, but still, defendable, and plenty of windows with clear fields of fire.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I like it. A little close to the neighbors, but still, defendable, and plenty of windows with clear fields of fire.


Great, his first post here and Don already wants to set the fields on fire.
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Fields OF fire...not fields ON fire...
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Originally posted by SCCA FIERO:Wasn't much interest, but here it is ( it's a bit further along than this)


Hey, I have been waiting for your update. You have a lot to be proud of, looks like real good work. We will all give you hell if you do not finish but, sounded like you have some local family support to keep you on target.
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