Thirteen months after President Trump's first day in office, the Trump administration has been saying farewell to its staffers with the frenzied pace of a super-massive black hole flinging hydrogen atoms into the intergalactic void.
No one has been more loquacious in reporting this phenomenon than MSNBC news and opinion anchor Rachel Maddow.
Just two weeks ago, CNN's Editor at Large, Chris Cillizza, led off with this:
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More than one in three Trump administration staffers have left the White House in its first year, a pace that far eclipses the rate of departures in the previous five White Houses, according to a study done by Kathryn Dunn Tenpas of the Brookings Institute.
The pace of resignations, firings and other assorted departures from the Trump White House is twice what it was in George W. Bush's first year as president and triple that of Barack Obama's first year in office.
And, it's not just any sorts of departures; a large number of Trump's senior-most staff have left in the first year alone.
Almost a year to the day since Trump's inauguration, the Brooking Institution's Kathryn Dunn Tenpas offered her "take" in a banquet-sized offering, under the heading of "Why is Trump's staff turnover higher than the 5 most recent presidents?" https://www.brookings.edu/r...t-recent-presidents/
RedState's Susan Wright is reporting on rumors that the White House National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster, may be the next big fish to escape from the Trump aquarium.
Paint a false picture of an administration in chaos.
Useful idiots like Ronald play along dutifully and gleefully.
Despite all of the nonsense from Ronald's favorite loquacious leftist lesbian, only one position on her dubious list is a Presidential Cabinet position.
How the Trump administration works: On the left side of the animation, the hiring pool from which new staffers are selected. They are drawn by gravity into the accretion disk surrounding the super-massive black hole. The staffers that are being replaced--the former staffers or ex-staffers--comprise the two quasar jets that emanate from the north and south magnetic poles of the super-luminous quasar, which is known as Donald J Trump*, in astronomical notation. These are the White House staffers that are being flung outwards, completely out of the galaxy and into the intergalactic void. The White House staffers in the accretion disk are being accelerated to almost the speed of light by the black hoie's enormous gravitational field.
Originally posted by rinselberg: Thirteen months after President Trump's first day in office, the Trump administration has been saying farewell to its staffers with the frenzied pace of a super-massive black hole flinging hydrogen atoms into the intergalactic void.
I have done told you once. You need better news intelligence.
Originally posted by cliffw: I have done told you once. You need better news intelligence. Let me ask you a question rinselberg:
Are you happy in which way the country is going ?
Let me ask you another question:
If not, why not ?
I would actually like to work harder at crafting a Reply, but this isn't an opportune time for that. I'll do what I think I can "afford"...
This is from the Brooking Institution's Kathryn Dunn Tenpas, which I credited at the top of this page:
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To be sure, [President Trump] and his team have rightly claimed credit for their appointment of [a judge that was popular with conservatives--Neil Gorsuch] to the Supreme Court--even if it [also] caused contention over the prior Senate’s treatment of Obama nominee Merrick Garland--and the late December legislative victory on tax reform...Those were important achievements by any measure, but the overwhelming impression of this first year was one of constant tumult.
I think that's a realistic appraisal of how things stand, after the President's first full year and a month in office.
Just looking at this as if I were a Trump supporter, or as if I agreed with what I can credit him with in the category of "ideas"--hypotheticals, obviously, because I'm not and I don't--he doesn't give me confidence that the Trump presidency ends well, even for Donald Trump.
I think of him as a driver on the freeway who is disregarding speed limits and weaving back and forth across the lanes in a reckless manner. So far, he does not seem to have crashed, but he's only just beyond the end of his first full year in office. I wouldn't want to be seated next to him in the passenger seat, or in any of the other vehicles that are in his vicinity.
People who like him have made a great deal of his 2016 election victory, and how he outperformed the many "legacy" or mainstream media pollster's predictions of victory for Hillary Clinton.
I "get" that, but according to what I believe are accurate reports, his margin of victory was less than 80,000 popular votes that fell the right way for him in three key states; to wit:
Originally posted by rinselberg, replying to cliffw: To be sure, [President Trump] and his team have rightly claimed credit for their appointment of [a judge that was popular with conservatives--Neil Gorsuch] to the Supreme Court--even if it [also] caused contention over the prior Senate’s treatment of Obama nominee Merrick Garland--and the late December legislative victory on tax reform...Those were important achievements by any measure, but the overwhelming impression of this first year was one of constant tumult.
Thirteen months after President Trump's first day in office, the Trump administration has been saying farewell to its staffers with the frenzied pace of a super-massive black hole flinging hydrogen atoms into the intergalactic void.
No one has been more loquacious in reporting this phenomenon than MSNBC news and opinion anchor Rachel Maddow.
Just two weeks ago, CNN's Editor at Large, Chris Cillizza, led off with this:
Almost a year to the day since Trump's inauguration, the Brooking Institution's Kathryn Dunn Tenpas offered her "take" in a banquet-sized offering, under the heading of "Why is Trump's staff turnover higher than the 5 most recent presidents?" https://www.brookings.edu/r...t-recent-presidents/
RedState's Susan Wright is reporting on rumors that the White House National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster, may be the next big fish to escape from the Trump aquarium.
Sometimes Rinse, I wonder if either you actually believe the stuff you post, or if you WANT to believe it?
For one... the majority of those people listed there (on her TV show) were FIRED by the President and John Kelly. That's what presidents do when they take over. There are many more to come because Trump still has people who are yet un-appointed.
Why do you even post this stuff? It's not like any of us here are offended, but you're grossly misrepresenting this information. You're literally trying to paint a picture of an administration in chaos, when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Will Donald Trump still be President at the end of 2018?
Here's the proposition: Will Donald Trump, at the end of business on the last day of 2018, still be wheeling and dealing on the national and international stage from the Oval Office, or from his more personal digs at Mar-a-Lago or some other favored venue? Or will he himself have become another former Trump administration staffer, ejected from the Trump Galaxy by the black hole-powered magnetic field at its center, and propelled onto a trajectory across the intergalactic void at a speed approaching the speed of light?
I have no problem at all replacing any person who cant or wont do his job. I dont care if the whole staff changes monthly. leaving incompetent or those taking bribes in place definitely is not the right way to go.
Will Donald Trump still be President at the end of 2018?
Here's the proposition: Will Donald Trump, at the end of business on the last day of 2018, still be wheeling and dealing on the national and international stage from the Oval Office, or from his more personal digs at Mar-a-Lago or some other favored venue? Or will he himself have become another former Trump administration staffer, ejected from the Trump Galaxy by the black hole-powered magnetic field at its center, and propelled onto a trajectory across the intergalactic void at a speed approaching the speed of light?
Not me. I do not trade directly in individual or stand-alone stocks or equities. "A man's got to know his limitations..."
Honestly Rinse... there's no one anywhere, with any credibility believes Trump is involved in anything. I'm including Mueller in this.
If you honestly think Trump is going to be removed from office... you're really, really being delusional.
Let's say even for a second that he did somehow meet with Putin directly and say... "I'm going to bring down America."
First... they'd need to vote to impeach him. Once they've impeached him, then they'd need to vote on a possible sentence. Likely, they'd need to vote again to actually remove him if that was something they decided, and he still could appeal and it would go to the Supreme Court... and then the Supreme Court would need to decide. You're nuts if you actually think anything like this is actually going to happen. I'm being serious here...
You did notice that Ronald's mentally ill obsession with any and all things "muslim" stopped right after the election and his psychosis has now shifted to 24/7/365 Trump Derangement Syndrome?
These are exactly the kind of psychiatric symptoms that law enforcement authorities need to be notified about.
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Hope "I tell only white lies" Hicks, Trump White House communications director #3 is moving at 93 percent of the speed of light on her way towards the intergalactic void, where she will be joining the record-setting number of staff departures that is being established by the Trump administration. Careful there, Hope. Don't pass too close to that neutron star. They're nasty.
Hope "I tell only white lies" Hicks, Trump White House communications director #3 has already reached 93 percent of the speed of light, on her way towards the intergalactic void, where she will be joining the record-setting number of staff departures that is being established by the Trump administration. Careful there, Hope. Don't pass too close to that neutron star. They're nasty.
I was reared on a farm/ranch in KS, your posts remind me of an experience I used to have daily. I (as remember) used to scrape or shovel the concrete hog pen production floors on a daily basis. We had three of those production/fattening pens. What I'm reminded of is the stench. The hogs had no idea or cared but, I and the neighbors (about a half mile away) always had that stench in the air. Wasn't the most pleseant aroma. Not sure why but, that's what most of your posts remind me of. Mostly full of foul smelling crap.
Not posted with any parttular intended intent, just noticed that most seem to be intended to raise a stink and nothing else. YMMV.
Rams
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Honestly Rinse... there's no one anywhere, with any credibility believes Trump is involved in anything. I'm including Mueller in this.
If you honestly think Trump is going to be removed from office... you're really, really being delusional.
Let's say even for a second that he did somehow meet with Putin directly and say... "I'm going to bring down America."
First... they'd need to vote to impeach him. Once they've impeached him, then they'd need to vote on a possible sentence. Likely, they'd need to vote again to actually remove him if that was something they decided, and he still could appeal and it would go to the Supreme Court... and then the Supreme Court would need to decide. You're nuts if you actually think anything like this is actually going to happen. I'm being serious here...
Well, it's not like these points that are being made, by "82", are information that I am not already filled in on.
I don't think it is very likely that the President will be hit by the House with charges of impeachment.
But it could happen. It seems more conceivable, on this particular day, #405 I think, of the Trump presidency, than it was on any day during the presidencies of Obama and George W Bush. Nothing brings on impeachments like a Special Counsel, or a Special Prosecutor, or whatever other titles have been used for it, over the years, since President Clinton and before that, President Nixon.
I do not expect the Special Counsel's investigation to wind down or conclude without any further embarrassment for the President, but I think the odds are small that the President will see charges of impeachment.
That is a step back from what I said before--in another thread--where I said that I would not be surprised if the Special Counsel referred the President to Congress as an unindicted co-conspirator in a conspiracy to obstruct justice, and even a conspiracy against the United States.
I guess I would be surprised. Not shocked. Just surprised. The "odds", as I perceive them, tend to fluctuate, depending on the news reports that I have consumed during the preceding hours of the day.
As to the remarks (immediately before) from blackrams, he is clearly confusing my messages with someone else's. That can happen when messages from different posters are interlaced, as they usually are, within the same thread. The olfactory sense is not perfectly directional.
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Hope "I tell only white lies" Hicks, Trump White House communications director #3 has already reached 93 percent of the speed of light, on her way towards the intergalactic void, where she will be joining the record-setting number of staff departures that is being established by the Trump administration. Careful there, Hope. Don't pass too close to that neutron star. They're nasty.
As to the remarks (immediately before) from blackrams, he is clearly confusing my messages with someone else's. That can happen when messages from different posters are interlaced, as they usually are, within the same thread. The olfactory sense is not perfectly directional.
As previously stated, those pigs who were producing the stench didn't care or seem to notice but just about everyone else in the community had to hold their noses. I'll withdraw from this thread and attempt to avoid further threads that contain such aromas. Draw whatever conclusions you wish from that.
OK, I just wanted to "bump" this one. I would like to think that Todd or 82-T/A [At Work] had enough time off from work (ha-ha) to see where I replied specifically to him. That is exactly three messages back or before this one.
I am always kind of reluctant to send someone a PM that says "hope you read my Reply." I've done it, from time to time. I don't know. Somehow it feel a little bit like "cheating."
Economic advisor Gary Cohn, on a trajectory that is taking him out of the galaxy and into the inter-galactic void at approximately 74 percent of the speed of light. Cohn announced his impending departure from the Trump administration yesterday (March 6, 2018) amidst a flurry of controversy over the plan to impose new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports. The comet-like tail of gas molecules trailing behind are a mixture of aromatic carbon compounds from Cohn's aftershave lotion and hair dressing (although very bald, he has vestiges of scalp hair on either side) and solvents that were used in the dry cleaning of his extensive wardrobe of carefully tailored business suits.
This image was captured by the NASA Hubble Space Telescope, Wide Field Camera 3.
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Paint a false picture of an administration in chaos.
Useful idiots like Ronald play along dutifully and gleefully.
Despite all of the nonsense from Ronald's favorite loquacious leftist lesbian, only one position on her dubious list is a Presidential Cabinet position.
That is your opinion. You don't like Trump so you will find whatever you can to hate on Trump.
I like how you call people Trumpers. Like it's a bad thing to support the President. I don't know of anyone who thinks his poop don't stink. I do know many many people who like the policies and direction he has chosen. If he was a smooth talking Harvard-trained lawyer I wonder if you would feel just the same?
When turnover is that high, it's an issue with mgmt.
It's properly called a comparison.
Which President do you suppose we should all use as the benchmark for comparisons?
Maybe Millard Fillmore is your guy?
You spent the first part of your comment suggesting that the number of chiefs of staff between Obama and Trump are essentially equal, THEN you say "When turnover is that high, it's an issue with mgmt."
The notion that any administration has / had the least "turnover" or reduction in staff throughout all federal agencies is simply an indictment that:
1. They were engaged in expanding an already monstrously big, expensive and intrusive federal bureaucracy on the American people.
and
2. They were engaged in filling "the swamp" to make it a problem for a successor as Obama did, who spent 8 long years packing every possible federal agency with as many future, unelected, "resistors" as he could, and in the event that Hillary won, as they expected, it would have simply been seen by them as "a good start" to eventually creating a Federal bureaucracy loaded from top to bottom with nothing but union protected Leftists.
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Uhh, Obama had 4 chiefs of staff in his first term; 5 through both terms.
Trump is also on his fourth chief of staff.
I find it hilarious that Trumpers -constantly- have to bring up Obama when defending Trump.
Through the entire Obama administration, Fox News called out all the resignations, and Democrats -constantly- brought up examples under George Bush.
This is just normal discussion points.
Personally, I'm totally OK with Trump firing whoever he needs to. The way I see it is... he wants someone who is going to do anything and everything they can to support his decisions. If they cannot or will not do what they are being asked (so long as it isn't illegal), then they need to be fired and have someone else brought in.
