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Situation in New York by TheDigitalAlchemist
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Some idiot in a truck mowed down a bunch of people and then started shooting. Police shot him, he’s in custody, 6 dead so far...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...ntown-Manhattan.html

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6 o clock news, report he was using a full auto vehicle..
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No news ,
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With Garry Ganue

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I will wait before speculating on motive and ethnicity.
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Ban cars more people die from cars then guns . was it a black assault car they are just pure evil
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My thoughts and prayers go outfor the victims and our country.

It is sad that this has become a common theme. Even sadder how soon people jump in with jokes and hate.
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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

My thoughts and prayers go outfor the victims and our country.

It is sad that this has become a common theme. Even sadder how soon people jump in with jokes and hate.


It just shows the way human cope with this stuff, I guess.
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Ethnicity confirmed.

"A suspect was apprehended at the scene. Multiple law enforcement officials told ABC News that the suspect in custody was identified as 29-year-old Sayfullo Saipov of Tampa, Florida.

The suspect is reported to have screamed "Allahu Akbar" after the crash, and that is a key reason authorities are looking at terrorism as a possible motive, sources said."

"Part and parcel".

Soon we will not be able to rent a vehicle without a secure background check. Folks that do no harm will now be subject to undue sanctions and laws. As usual due to allah.

Nothing but the best health care, and law services for this guy.

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Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov


EDIT: I stand corrected. He's an Uzbek and not born here.

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The Bosnians that I have known don't seem terribly religious or political, but it looks like this guy might be from Uzbekistan, next door from whence came the Tsarnaev brothers.
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Originally posted by williegoat:

The Bosnians that I have known don't seem terribly religious or political, but it looks like this guy might be from Uzbekistan, next door from whence came the Tsarnaev brothers.


Correct.

He is an Uzbek and not born in the U.S.

I just updated my comment.
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Looks like my pellet gun/paintball gun collection just became valuable. Wait, never mind the guns he used were plastic guns so they are going to go after glocks... ...why are plastic guns even legal?
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Looks like my pellet gun/paintball gun collection just became valuable. Wait, never mind the guns he used were plastic guns so they are going to go after glocks... ...why are plastic guns even legal?


Why should they be illegal?
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This is an example of why those who travel from certain regions should undergo additional scrutiny. Leftist judges are preventing implementation of a policy which could save lives.
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Why should they be illegal?


Sorry, I was using liberal logic, I've snapped out of it.
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The religion of peace being peaceful again.

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The religion of peace being peaceful again.


I'm sure you're probably already aware of it, but be careful flying near that new radioactive cloud from "Rocket Man's" collapsed mountain over there.
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The religion of peace being peaceful again.


Corrupted by plastic.





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I'm curious what the toys he was carrying are. If he used a Tippmann TPX it would be notable because of the liberal kickstarter campaign where they did no actual development, they just rebranded the TPX as a "salt gun" but when they committed to that idea they discovered salt would do nothing so they added capsaicin.
https://youtu.be/JSJ2eWarVmY
Stupidest thing I've ever seen. Good way to get killed.

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I'm sure you're probably already aware of it, but be careful flying near that new radioactive cloud from "Rocket Man's" collapsed mountain over there.


Luckily the jet steam in that area is away from anywhere I fly. Plus I'm heading south for the next few days to Krabi, Thailand.
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See, here I was thinking "Oh, no, another Baptist attack".
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Rinse will be passing by to let us know it was a lone wolf.. not another religion of peace terrorist..
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The left are already labeling this as "just another crazy person."

There is a huge push to portray this loser as Russian. Not as a muslim.

I watched a video that made me think yesterday. A person was going down the path of destruction in more of a fact gathering method. I am no expert, but it gave me the feeling that an accomplice was doing the recording. I am probably way off, but it did make my skin crawl.

President Trump's muslim ban would have stopped this turd from entering. Thankfully it was not any of your children that were murdered in the name of the religion of peace. It was only other peoples children.
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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

My thoughts and prayers go outfor the victims and our country.

It is sad that this has become a common theme. Even sadder how soon people jump in with jokes and hate.


I think its clear they are just tired of seeing the media use everything for their agenda of gun control against the American People.
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Its actually crazy that this happened the way it did. There is absolutely no way I see that they can twist this into saying the "paintball guns" the guy had... had anything to do with the damage this person with his sick ideology made.
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I think its clear they are just tired of seeing the media use everything for their agenda of gun control against the American People.


Yes i was just jumping on the knee jerk band wagon. I do feel horrible for the victims but I'm sick of seeing people stand on the dead body's to push for gun control . a right protected by the constitution and trying to turn a blind eye to everything but guns. I don't blame objects i blame the monsters behind the object be it a gun car stick rock . they all kill
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Its actually crazy that this happened the way it did. There is absolutely no way I see that they can twist this into saying the "paintball guns" the guy had... had anything to do with the damage this person with his sick ideology made.


Sorry but this went over my head.. Could you explain?

I believe I have an understanding of jehadists ideology, but my current opinion of this individual is that he is crazy. I don't believe (so far) that he is down for the cause. If he were a legitimate jehadist, he would have been furnished real guns. He is just a crazy want to be murderer reaching for 15 minutes of fame, pathetically clinging to his heroes of jehad. Kind of like a security guard failure who tries to act like he is a Police Officer.
Just my first impression of him, so I could be wrong.
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Sorry but this went over my head.. Could you explain?

I believe I have an understanding of jehadists ideology, but my current opinion of this individual is that he is crazy. I don't believe (so far) that he is down for the cause. If he were a legitimate jehadist, he would have been furnished real guns. He is just a crazy want to be murderer reaching for 15 minutes of fame, pathetically clinging to his heroes of jehad. Kind of like a security guard failure who tries to act like he is a Police Officer.
Just my first impression of him, so I could be wrong.


Thoughts:
I guess that could be even worse, the jihadist are inspiring copy cats, who don't even have an ideological reason?
I suppose I would say what matters is, is the effect the same on the victims? Also did the real ones inspire the actions?
What constitutes a real jihadist? I would think its just one that takes action. If they are his heroes he is one.

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The other part of my post was about how the media cant twist this into more "guns are bad" stuff.

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Thoughts:
I guess that could be even worse, the jihadist are inspiring copy cats, who don't even have an ideological reason?
I suppose I would say what matters is, is the effect the same on the victims? Also did the real ones inspire the actions?
What constitutes a real jihadist? I would think its just one that takes action. If they are his heroes he is one.


This is purely speculation, but for the purpose of discussion, can a mentally ill person comprehend the concept of jehad? An individual can want attention so bad that they act out in extreme ways,..even mentally ill people who possess just a faint glimpse of religious ideology.

 
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The other part of my post was about how the media cant twist this into more "guns are bad" stuff.



To a liberal ANYTHING that hurts their feelings is bad and must be regulated. This could be used in such a way to make him being shot, as an example of Police brutality.
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Mental illness. Defining that can be a tough thing.
I haven't looked for stories about this since the one I read this morning, don't even know if they found he was on some mind warping pills like most of the mass murderers were.
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Mental illness. Defining that can be a tough thing.
I haven't looked for stories about this since the one I read this morning, don't even know if they found he was on some mind warping pills like most of the mass murderers were.


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In other news, home depot. will be sued for it was their truck, So kiss those rentals goodbye
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I'm guessing we need a law to prevent suing companies when their products are used to commit atrocities like this? Imagine if Cuisinart was held responsible for their pressure cooker if someone made a bomb out of it.
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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

Even sadder how soon people jump in with jokes and hate.


It is away to cope.. Those that have had to deal with stuff like this first hand, every time something happens it brings it all back..
I have had the marathon bombing running like a loop in my brain since this was reported, and it won't stop from the time the bomb went off 25 yards from us till the end of that day, it's like watching a movie over and over that you can't stop.. I most likely won't sleep for days..
All you can do is joke about it, as you can not stop these things from happening, And in my case I refuse to take the drugs they claim might mellow out the looping memory loop that gets triggered every time I read about or watch a report on an attack.. I can see why many mil. vets become hermits , they don't want to know what happens in the world..

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

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President Trump's muslim ban would have stopped this turd from entering. Thankfully it was not any of your children that were murdered in the name of the religion of peace. It was only other peoples children.


Trumps ban would've done nothing as this turd has been here since 2010.. But it would stop more of them from getting here legally at least and I'm all for that..

Sadly Trumps ban will never happen to many liberal judges that have no morals and don't care if they get blood on their hands..
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Its actually crazy that this happened the way it did. There is absolutely no way I see that they can twist this into saying the "paintball guns" the guy had... had anything to do with the damage this person with his sick ideology made.


The liberal media isn't reporting the news truthfully..
It's what they are not saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He only had a paintball gun and pellet gun because wait for it wait for it!!!!!!!! the background checks on guns worked and he could not get guns in N.Y./N.J./ OR OHIO..
But it go against the liberal narrative to report that nugget
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Yes i was just jumping on the knee jerk band wagon. I do feel horrible for the victims but I'm sick of seeing people stand on the dead body's to push for gun control . a right protected by the constitution and trying to turn a blind eye to everything but guns. I don't blame objects i blame the monsters behind the object be it a gun car stick rock . they all kill


My jokes where honestly poorly timed and I feel the same about the blind eyes.
The root of the problem is Islam and also mental illness associated with Islam. A high percentage are inbred because Islam permits it. Statistically still births, genetic disorders, birth defects and low IQs are a big problem in Muslim communities. Those impressionable people mixed with a murderous ideology is the reason you see mentally deficient pawns used in some terror attacks(just look at the male San Bernardino shooter's picture).

That said, we don't know this guy's mental state and the toy guns are an indicator he wanted suicide by cop, he obviously had planned to die and the fact that he's not dead is a fitting outcome, he thinks he should be in paradise right now but instead he'll be forced to live as a prisoner if people do their job and keep him from hanging himself or being murdered.

https://youtu.be/mnWY6TNLMq0

https://youtu.be/uLmisbmWaaU

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That said, we don't know this guy's mental state and the toy guns are an indicator he wanted suicide by cop, he obviously had planned to die and the fact that he's not dead is a fitting outcome, he thinks he should be in paradise right now but instead he'll be forced to live as a prisoner if people do their job and keep him from hanging himself or being murdered.

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He will do more harm in a jail than if he was dead. As he will be able to recruit more inside than dead..
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He will do more harm in a jail than if he was dead. As he will be able to recruit more inside than dead..


If he was dead, he'd be a martyr for "the cause" which would cause more Muslims to "avenge" him. He's not going to recruit many in jail/prison. Jails/prisons are already full of Muslims, many of which are extremists already even if they haven't had the opportunity to kill anyone in the name of whomever.
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If Muslims think they don't get to paradise, they lose a big incentive to go on a suicidal rampage. Pork products are a legitimate and successfully used inventive to stop terrorism because they know pork can't enter paradise.

http://www.frontpagemag.com...es-daniel-greenfield

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Originally posted by jmbishop:

If Muslims think they don't get to paradise, they lose a big incentive to go on a suicidal rampage. Pork products are a legitimate and successfully used inventive to stop terrorism because they know they pork can't enter paradise.



His hamburger in the hospital would be ground pork if I worked in the kitchen..
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