Like the thread title speaks, rate your own racism. Heck, do not even do it under your avatar, tell the Pennocks community your real name. Play along, or don't. If someone posts a rating that you disagree with, then disagree. It really is that simple. Follow the rules, or make up your own as we go. This thread could be about pencils, and somebody knows more about them, has witnessed actual history not the fake stuff you read in school books, invented it, or once banged a person under the trusses who had a sister that dated a guy that had a friend.
I will begin...
Tony Kania ~ Racist level 2 out of 10.
Edit: Wife says that it is not racism that we hate, it is the stupidity of people.
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What are the metrics?? As far as blacks go, I'm not black enough because I don't tow the liberal line of victimhood As far as whites go, well I'm one step up from a hoodrat, as I don't wear hoodies or pants at me knees.. but most don't think to highly of me.. just because..
I think we all bleed red so.... I'm very very racist to anyone that is a thug, theif, and or does not value life.. label that as you wish. I am 1000 times worse to those that spread the victim b/s and promote it.. and have a left leaning arrow here because of my intolerance to bullshitta
and will have no mercy on those that fill young minds with it.. no mercy at all..
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Like the thread title speaks, rate your own racism.
Wow. I'm not sure how to do that.
The *facts* say that I'm a white, male, conservative who is 2nd generation Swedish-American
HOWEVER
Today I have chosen to *identify* as a 12 foot tall, black, Asian, "immigrant" female here illegally from Mexico who is also a homosexual and a vegan, communist.
Tomorrow may likely be different.
As you said, "Fun Stuff"
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I was raised in a North Idaho town where if a black person was in town after the sun went down they were escorted out of town by the sheriff. I didn't go along with that attitude but when I was exposed to black people in their own culture I experienced some racial attitudes. I still judge people as individuals but I do think that people are one thing as individuals and another thing as part of a culture. I think I have a bit of racism in me and I don't like it one bit.
I'm racist against lazy mother___________ . Your skin, where your family origin is from. Don't care, but if you expect to live off the tit of others hard work.. I hate you, I hate you with a passion.. Sadly there are many with this view and because it tends to fit one group we get called racist toward minorities , must be that guilty conscience that makes them see that ,that way.. but Clearly don't bother them enough to get off their arse..
I was adopted at birth by the two best parents a guy could have. Only problem was that they were both Irish-Americans and I was something else. By age 12 I towered over them and had a much darker complexion.
As you might expect from an Irish-American family, I have 42 cousins just on my mother's side. In the family pictures I look like baby Huey beside all these "little folk:".
My adoption papers do describe my lineage but I've never looked at them and they're now in the hands of my daughter. That's because I was taught from birth that the content of my character was the only thing that mattered so I simply have no interest.
We moved into our new house when I was 4 and I made friends with the kid across the street. I didn't know there was anything amiss until a couple of years later when I overheard one of my uncles ask my mom if she thought it was OK for me to play with "the spic". Turns out, Davy was Puerto Rican. When I asked my mom about it she said to give it no weight. That was the end of it, no long lectures about racism and such.
So, I was lucky enough to end up in a nuclear family that valued content over appearance, meaning I'd honestly have to say I'm a 0/10.
Now, if we had a thread rating ex-wives, well, that would be quite different. I really hate them.
Growing up in a small town in Ohio. well you can guess. People are nice but most of them there is just something wrong or perhaps its just the ones I was subject to. I have never had a problem with the color of someone's skin. Actions speak volumes about a person. I don't like being around people that use racial slurs. Having to grow up around it I was glad when I was old enough to move away. I have many friends from all walks of life. I have dated girls based on who they are not what they are. I have found that it doesn't matter what color your skin. My last girl friend was Haitian\Caucasian she was fun to be around and we liked each other for who we are not the color of our skin. We are still friends. Honestly it turns my stomach to hear how some people talk. I know its a cultural thing but even hearing people of color use racial slurs makes me upset. I'm not raciest I hate everybody
Wow... Such a dilemma. I am white. Half Irish. Probably half German. Born and raised just outside Atlanta. My parents were from Philadelphia. Migrated to ATL two years before I was born. The vast majority of the people in my group at work are black. I get along fine with most of them. Not so well with one of them. (The other folks don't like him too much, either. My problem with him is not racial, although he would probably label it that way.) Regarding the Confederate monuments, I really don't have an affection for any of them, but I fully understand how others may. Personally, I think they should be left alone.
Religion? I really don't care what you believe, as long as you don't try to force it on me. If you do, we have a problem. My faith is my own, and really nobody else's business. Mostly, I just don't give a fsck. If you're nice to me, I'll be the same. If you're an azzhole, I've got no use for you.
I would say, if when thinking about your racism level, you respond with "I am against [attributes or actions], not race," you have some introspection to do. That implies you are attaching those attributes to that race (by way of bringing it up at all when considering if you're racist). You are likely more racist than you think. I have never once thought "I'm not racist, I am against thieves though." I have never thought that because I don't attribute thievery to any particular color.
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I would say I am about a 0.5/10. I grew up in a segregated area, each little community would be basically either 90% White or 90% Black. Didn't know anything about being racist until at some point people started identifying as particular races. I am always attempting to be more cognizant of my biases, and see how they structure my beliefs. I try and see things objectively, when possible.
The most racism I believe I have today is, because I shave my head bald, I worry I will look like a skinhead. This worry only really pops up when I see a Black person. Logically, I know that any judgement of my character based on my baldness would be the fault of them, not me, but I still think about it. I have no racism, even small, towards any other minority.
I actively fight for Black empowerment in my professional and personal life. I also educate against the strictly Black Power movement, as it is racist and manipulative. I do believe Black folks are disadvantaged in this country, due to the structure of our police force and responding justice system. I would like to reform the way these two systems work together, in a way that would allow for less personal biases and less collusion. Blacks are also overrepresented in those hurt by the terrible drug laws in this country, and I wish to repeal those laws.
I would say, if when thinking about your racism level, you respond with "I am against [attributes or actions], not race," you have some introspection to do. That implies you are attaching those attributes to that race (by way of bringing it up at all when considering if you're racist). You are likely more racist than you think. I have never once thought "I'm not racist, I am against thieves though." I have never thought that because I don't attribute thievery to any particular color.
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I would say I am about a 0.5/10. I grew up in a segregated area, each little community would be basically either 90% White or 90% Black. Didn't know anything about being racist until at some point people started identifying as particular races. I am always attempting to be more cognizant of my biases, and see how they structure my beliefs. I try and see things objectively, when possible.
The most racism I believe I have today is, because I shave my head bald, I worry I will look like a skinhead. This worry only really pops up when I see a Black person. Logically, I know that any judgement of my character based on my baldness would be the fault of them, not me, but I still think about it. I have no racism, even small, towards any other minority.
I actively fight for Black empowerment in my professional and personal life. I also educate against the strictly Black Power movement, as it is racist and manipulative. I do believe Black folks are disadvantaged in this country, due to the structure of our police force and responding justice system. I would like to reform the way these two systems work together, in a way that would allow for less personal biases and less collusion. Blacks are also overrepresented in those hurt by the terrible drug laws in this country, and I wish to repeal those laws.
BDub, I appreciate that you have a clear and respectful reply. I do however respectfully dissagree with some of it. I don'tbelieve that a response of "But: I don't like....." has ANYTHING to do with racial tendencies. Such replies can mean exactly what they say. Such as: I am not racist, I just hate thugs. This in no way implies that a person is racist. It is exactly what it says. To interpret anything into such responses is jumping to conclusions, and most likely a wrong conclusion. It is exactly like a person accusing you of being a skinhead just because you shave.
I also think that "empowering" any groups of people is setting them up for failure. To treat everyone with equal respect and dignity IS making them equal. "Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts". This is the mentality that comes from empowerment AND entitlement. Look at black lifes matter as an example of a racist criminal gang who was empowered, now they have collectively set race relations in America back substantially.
I see the convicted felons of ALL races, and I can honestly say that they are NOT all the same. Most are respectful towards me, some are not. They are all human, no different that I. They are all prone to inmate political bull crap and as such, they put up a barrier so I don't see the real person inside the front they put up. I understand this and do the same myself. We have a professional working relationship. Three groups of inmates give me the most disrespect, skinheads, fresno bulldogs and black gangs. This is just fact, no exaggerations or embellishment. If Police get the same type of attitude I get, then I ABSOLUTELY believe that there is a reason why the ratio of race in prison is what it is. I see no reason to change any law that would give ANY race an advantage over another. IF Police are treating people differently because of race, then punish those individuals respectively, NOT the entire profession. BTW, I absolutely see the media persecuting the entire profession indiscriminately because of a clear case of Police brutality committed by one or a few individuals. This is equally as repulsive and counterproductive as if the legal system was accually doing it. I do not believe the legal system is guilty of treating people based on color. Jurors are prone to doing it based on MANY factors including Court Room Theatrics and playing on prejudice by the Attorneys. After all (believe it or not) it is not a crime for attorneys to lie in Court. It is ONLY a crime if anyone else lies. Their job is to get the best outcome for their clients, even at the expense of justice served. I never hear about the injustices of Court Room Theatrics, I only hear about how wrong the Police are or how the system is rigged against someone. I see the vast majority of injustices happening within the Court Room rather than Laws or Police profiling. I purposely left out Police brutality because we already agree that it is criminal.
We have had drug law debates before, so I won't bring it up again, I will just simply say that I dissagree with your most current response as well.
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BDub, I appreciate that you have a clear and respectful reply. I do however respectfully dissagree with some of it. I don't believe that a response of "But: I don't like....." has ANYTHING to do with racial tendencies. Such replies can mean exactly what they say. Such as: I am not racist, I just hate thugs. This in no way implies that a person is racist. It is exactly what it says. To interpret anything into such responses is jumping to conclusions, and most likely a wrong conclusion. It is exactly like a person accusing you of being a skinhead just because you shave.
I also think that "empowering" any groups of people is setting them up for failure. To treat everyone with equal respect and dignity IS making them equal. "Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts". This is the mentality that comes from empowerment AND entitlement. Look at black lifes matter as an example of a racist criminal gang who was empowered, now they have collectively set race relations in America back substantially.
I see the convicted felons of ALL races, and I can honestly say that they are NOT all the same. Most are respectful towards me, some are not. They are all human, no different that I. They are all prone to inmate political bull crap and as such, they put up a barrier so I don't see the real person inside the front they put up. I understand this and do the same myself. We have a professional working relationship. Three groups of inmates give me the most disrespect, skinheads, fresno bulldogs and black gangs. This is just fact, no exaggerations or embellishment. If Police get the same type of attitude I get, then I ABSOLUTELY believe that there is a reason why the ratio of race in prison is what it is. I see no reason to change any law that would give ANY race an advantage over another. IF Police are treating people differently because of race, then punish those individuals respectively, NOT the entire profession. BTW, I absolutely see the media persecuting the entire profession indiscriminately because of a clear case of Police brutality committed by one or a few individuals. This is equally as repulsive and counterproductive as if the legal system was accually doing it. I do not believe the legal system is guilty of treating people based on color. Jurors are prone to doing it based on MANY factors including Court Room Theatrics and playing on prejudice by the Attorneys. After all (believe it or not) it is not a crime for attorneys to lie in Court. It is ONLY a crime if anyone else lies. Their job is to get the best outcome for their clients, even at the expense of justice served. I never hear about the injustices of Court Room Theatrics, I only hear about how wrong the Police are or how the system is rigged against someone. I see the vast majority of injustices happening within the Court Room rather than Laws or Police profiling. I purposely left out Police brutality because we already agree that it is criminal.
BDub, I appreciate that you have a clear and respectful reply. I do however respectfully dissagree with some of it. I don'tbelieve that a response of "But: I don't like....." has ANYTHING to do with racial tendencies. Such replies can mean exactly what they say. Such as: I am not racist, I just hate thugs. This in no way implies that a person is racist. It is exactly what it says. To interpret anything into such responses is jumping to conclusions, and most likely a wrong conclusion. It is exactly like a person accusing you of being a skinhead just because you shave.
I also think that "empowering" any groups of people is setting them up for failure. To treat everyone with equal respect and dignity IS making them equal. "Absolute Power Absolutely Corrupts". This is the mentality that comes from empowerment AND entitlement. Look at black lifes matter as an example of a racist criminal gang who was empowered, now they have collectively set race relations in America back substantially.
I see the convicted felons of ALL races, and I can honestly say that they are NOT all the same. Most are respectful towards me, some are not. They are all human, no different that I. They are all prone to inmate political bull crap and as such, they put up a barrier so I don't see the real person inside the front they put up. I understand this and do the same myself. We have a professional working relationship. Three groups of inmates give me the most disrespect, skinheads, fresno bulldogs and black gangs. This is just fact, no exaggerations or embellishment. If Police get the same type of attitude I get, then I ABSOLUTELY believe that there is a reason why the ratio of race in prison is what it is. I see no reason to change any law that would give ANY race an advantage over another. IF Police are treating people differently because of race, then punish those individuals respectively, NOT the entire profession. BTW, I absolutely see the media persecuting the entire profession indiscriminately because of a clear case of Police brutality committed by one or a few individuals. This is equally as repulsive and counterproductive as if the legal system was accually doing it. I do not believe the legal system is guilty of treating people based on color. Jurors are prone to doing it based on MANY factors including Court Room Theatrics and playing on prejudice by the Attorneys. After all (believe it or not) it is not a crime for attorneys to lie in Court. It is ONLY a crime if anyone else lies. Their job is to get the best outcome for their clients, even at the expense of justice served. I never hear about the injustices of Court Room Theatrics, I only hear about how wrong the Police are or how the system is rigged against someone. I see the vast majority of injustices happening within the Court Room rather than Laws or Police profiling. I purposely left out Police brutality because we already agree that it is criminal.
We have had drug law debates before, so I won't bring it up again, I will just simply say that I dissagree with your most current response as well.
Does it automatically mean racism is involved? No. But it's important to ask yourself why those two ideas are tied together. The question didn't ask your opinion on thugs. It asked about racism, and thugs were brought in the conversation because someone is tying those ideas together.
And empowering is just supporting. I don't support affirmative action, any kind of reverse racism or reparations or anything. Just support. Empowerment can make a difference with marginalized groups that don't get that support through other media.
When police discriminate or do illegal acts, I would like to see them punished individually. Because this very rarely happens, I call for an overhaul of the system. The blue line exists and it's a plague on our society. I also mentioned the judicial system needs to be reformed because of those things you mention. Judges, prosecutors, attorneys (including DAs), they all have impact on the process. Any biases they have tend to negatively impact people of color more than others. So the system needs to be reformed. In my opinion, of course, but there is data to support the biases of the system and how it negatively impacts Blacks more than anyone else.
Does it automatically mean racism is involved? No. But it's important to ask yourself why those two ideas are tied together. The question didn't ask your opinion on thugs. It asked about racism, and thugs were brought in the conversation because someone is tying those ideas together.
And empowering is just supporting. I don't support affirmative action, any kind of reverse racism or reparations or anything. Just support. Empowerment can make a difference with marginalized groups that don't get that support through other media.
When police discriminate or do illegal acts, I would like to see them punished individually. Because this very rarely happens, I call for an overhaul of the system. The blue line exists and it's a plague on our society. I also mentioned the judicial system needs to be reformed because of those things you mention. Judges, prosecutors, attorneys (including DAs), they all have impact on the process. Any biases they have tend to negatively impact people of color more than others. So the system needs to be reformed. In my opinion, of course, but there is data to support the biases of the system and how it negatively impacts Blacks more than anyone else.
Ok, thanks, no argument, I will just say we differ on opinions and beliefs.
I'm the whitest guy in any room I walk into, seriously, been tested. So I would say that based on that metric alone I am a 12 out of 10 on the racist scale.
I'm the whitest guy in any room I walk into, seriously, been tested. So I would say that based on that metric alone I am a 12 out of 10 on the racist scale.
Brad
Yeah who's scale? The social justice warriors who actually are racists?
probably the 1st time l've used the eyebrow smiley
The question is, do Black and Hispanic people do worse in school and commit more crime because they are black/Hispanic?
If we say that it is because of their race, then clearly Asians are smarter simply because they are Asian as they tend to out-perform whites. Looks like the Japanese and their master race theory during the early-mid 20th century were correct.
If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
The question is, do Black and Hispanic people do worse in school and commit more crime because they are black/Hispanic?
If we say that it is because of their race, then clearly Asians are smarter simply because they are Asian as they tend to out-perform whites. Looks like the Japanese and their master race theory during the early-mid 20th century were correct.
If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
I cant answer your questions because I don't have the perspective to. But ask yourself
You have one life make the best of it. Sure I was born with advantages but that doesn't mean I have not had challenges. Growing up in a small town I had only a few paths I could follow or I had to leave and find something new. The only advantages I have is growing up in the USA. Made the best of it and put myself through school. Never asked for anything that I didn't work for. We all have things we have to over come. Let them define you and you are beat before you start. I could have stayed and ended up like 60% of my family, bitter and beat down. I chose a different path and it hasn't always been pleasant. But I get up each day and go on. In the end we all die, who we are will only reflect what we leave behind. If nothing else leave nothing, it is better to leave and do no harm than to leave the world a worse place.
The question is, do Black and Hispanic people do worse in school and commit more crime because they are black/Hispanic?
If we say that it is because of their race, then clearly Asians are smarter simply because they are Asian as they tend to out-perform whites. Looks like the Japanese and their master race theory during the early-mid 20th century were correct.
If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
Why is it always about color with you? It is FACT that the pigment in our skin does not reflect the size or efficiency of our brains. I have seen you ask this exact question before. Please ask realistic questions. As far as education goes, there are too many reasons to list, as to why a group of people do not participate. Some reasons are role models. For example music, if a child is so influenced by music that discourages proper social behavior, then that child will be at a life long disadvantage.
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If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
Make sure you aren't looking for equality of outcome where there probably isn't going to be any.
Here is a big one that affects peoples lives, having both parents, and those parents love you and eachother. Something that affects that is the overabundance of government handouts. Something that affects that is voting for parties that promote a lot of that. Something that affects that is peoples values. Something that affects that is how they are raised. etc, etc etc That's part of what some call culture.
If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
As I said before, it is not because of race. So what is the reason? I guess it depends on the person asking, because I believe that is a loaded question. Seems to me that asking the question about ratios of races is fishing for support of a social belief or at least trying to influence others to think a certain way. The answer is clearer than you think, people are in trouble with the law because they choose to risk getting caught or just do not respect laws at all. I believe race does not play as big a role in incarceration as you try to make it out to be. Bottom line = poor life choices = poor life circumstances.
I'll have to find it, but one of the lefty publications was making fun of Conservatives for judging based on race and the libtard said literally that people of color were "lesser people."
Not a single drop of outrage from the left..
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A glad cry must have gone out among IDEAL manifesto writers when they discovered that Wax had taught at the University of Virginia law school until 2001. Voilà! Irrefutable proof of bigotry! “Prior to teaching at Penn, Wax was a professor at the University of Virginia Law School,” the manifesto gloats. “On August 12th, White supremacists marched through the University of Virginia carrying torches, chanting ‘You will not replace us,’ and yelling racial and anti-Semitic slurs.” The causality speaks for itself, but in case the reader needs help, IDEAL explains that the white supremacy “can find its intellectual home in the kind of falsely ‘objective’ rhetoric in Amy Wax’s statement, which positions (white) bourgeois culture as not only objectively superior, but also under incursion from lesser cultures and races.”
“Falsely ‘objective’” presumably means: “based on facts that one is unable to rebut.” Nothing in the Wax-Alexander op-ed claimed that white culture was under incursion from lesser races.
I think the whole article warrants reading. It's not horrible, and has decent points, despite its inherent racism.
Brad
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Originally posted by Threedog: If it is not because of their race, then we have to look at other factors which could influence the drastically unequal proportions of our prison populations.
How about you offer up some data on how a single parent is an advantage to Children's education and social skills? And the % of black single parent families vrs other races? If there is any difference at all? I need this information because I have a hard time understanding how single parent children are better off than those with a supportive family structure? I need this data to help me understand if incarceration is a result of single or no family upbringing?
Wonder if this cat ownership thing is rubbing off on me and turning me cynical ? I dunno. :sleep: 
